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Just want to say, New Englanders are alright in my book! They closely resemble that of the maritime proviences


I know, off topic, but yeah that Tucker guy, well, honestly hes probally so outspoken because he has a penis the size of a catapiller. Now, I dont know for sure, but I have been told bullies do have small genitals..

   

It's interesting how the people who ignorantly call President Bush a 'moron' get all upset at being called retarded.

President Bush, who has more achievements of his own than Al Gore or John Kerry (not a bias, just a documented fact) is not a moron.

I will note as a point of comparison that Bill Clinton possessed an equivalent education and should rightfully be considered as having climbed higher since Bush was a child of relative privilege and Clinton was not. And I am the least fan of Clinton's.

That said, even though I am not enamored of our neo-con President I find it disingenuous to call him a moron.

Now, I also am not too happy about Canada (outside of the Quebec separatists) being called retarded.

And I will also agree with Jaime that America pays very little attention to Canada. But as some Canadians seem intent on attracting our negative attention this may change.

Having the world's sole superpower (which is right next door to you) pissed off at you is not a good thing yet there are some Canadians who think that they can insult us and taunt us by proxy (insulting Bush insults the majority who voted for him) could be sadly disappointed if the American people suddenly turn their attention to the north.

Our politicians down here are little more than weather vanes (no different from yours) and if popular opinion in this country turns against Canada then Congress will screw Canada at every turn if it buys them votes.

You do not ever want a Canadian politician or leader to find himself or herself in the position of Japan's Admiral Yamamoto who said, after Japan mistakenly thought the USA was no more than a bunch of yahoos...

I love Canada and want to see Canada be vibrant and strong so I say this as a friend:

Don't piss us off.

People who go out of their way to piss off the USA tend to find the Fates turning their backs against them.

Now let me clarify that if Canada had a strong military and could exercise her sovereignty by herself, and if Canada developed her resources in the north, and if Canadians cared more about what they could do for Canada as opposed to what Canada could do for them then the USA might blanch at the prospect of Canada being upset with us.

I strongly advocate a strong Canada. Especially a Canada that can effectively stand up to the USA.

A Canada that can stand up to the USA has nothing to fear from anyone.

Reality check: that Canada does not exist.

But it could.

   

Which prompted this.And an admission of guilt....hmmmmmm,shades of "Con"?



Now here's the biggest flamewar between Us Canucks and the Yanks that I have ever seen.Canada vs USA

Very funny!

   

We call bush a moron, not America or Americans and lets be fair. He deserves it. He is a failed buisnessman and is doing real financial harm to your country. I'll give you Al Gore but I am surprised you don't have more respect for Kerry considering he's a decorated war vet and bush's alleged guard career is spotty at best.



True, of course the only times we are in the news in the states is when someone has said something derogatory. Your own media portrays us as such. Personally I like to think of us as the US's pesky little brother. Always being ignore and taken for granted. "A pain in the ass" when you have to drive us to hockey practice but you forget all the times we eagerly agree to cut the grass for you or wash your car or pick up your room so you can go out on the date with the cheerleader behind moms back. And we do these things with enthusiasm but they are instantlt forgotten the next time mom needs you to make dinner cause she'e running late.

Thats fine for now but little brothers grow up and remember.



Such as what? Military intervention over insults? Look at Iraq and 1/2 the world hates you because of it. Imagine then entire world and the realization that you would be fighting the commonwealth and comitting millions of troops to fight a war of occupation. Flamebait anyway because it woud never come to that.



They do anyway.



Don't take your friends for granted. People who do that quickly find themsleves without any.



I'm curious how you would react if your neighbour came over to your house and said that? You know, the one with the japanese rock garden in the front complete with coi pond and the personal sauna/hot tub/pool/BBQ patio/nightclub in the back and said if you would only do like he does then yours wouldn't look as shabby next to his?

Just food for thought.

   

Derby,

I'm not trashing on Canada. And while you may feel that insulting Bush is somehow not insulting the people who voted for him I can only tell you that when Canada, France, or whoever attacks the man personally you strengthen his support.

I know this does not make sense to you, but it is true.

There's no small number of Americans who judge a man by who hates him. If Canada and France hate Bush then they'll put aside their own animosity to the man and close ranks.

Okay, you're right that our politicians take undue advantage of Canada and I'm mostly on your side on these issues. That said, cranking up the rhetoric does not help your case in America. Our relationship as nations is not at all equitable nor will it be any time soon.

That's just the way it is. Ask Lithuania about their relationship with Russia and it'll be similar.

The USA should be fair to a friend and neighbor and Canada should be polite while strengthening her own position because her current status is as a vassal state to the USA. And the separatists and their antics cause Canada to be taken even less seriously in the USA.

A growing number of us look north and we don't see a nation, we see an opportunity.

Pissing us off will not at all result in a military action.

But what if the USA acts to destabilize Canada if it is to the perceived advantage of whoever is in office?

The USA has a lot to gain if Alberta separates and raises the US flag. It may not be our love for Alberta that is expressed but our fear of China.

By the way, the Republicans have little to gain from a shattered Canada whose bits and pieces will inevitably seek union with the USA.

But the Democrats would.

Alberta would probably go Republican. Maybe Sask & Manitoba, too.

But Nunavut, BC, Ontario, New Brunswick, Newfoundland, PEI, & Nova Scotia would absolutely go Democrat and give the Democrats solid control of the US Congress for the next fifty years.

Were I to set out a plan for Canada over the next 25 years it would be as follows:

1. Stomp out separatism. Prosecute the separatists as traitors if necessary, but preserve Canada as a nation and reinforce the perception of Canada as a nation in the eyes of the world. I'd even partition Quebec to reduce their sense of nationalism.

2. Establish an efficient and effective military that can exercise Canadian sovereignty. Put some anti-sub mines in strategic channels and let the world (and the US) know that those waters are off limits.

2a. Establish mandatory national service for kids 18-20 that can include the military, but also community service and conservation service. I'd do this to give kids a sense of ownership in their nation as opposed to their current sense of entitlement.

3. Cut taxes and severely reduce social spending. Prohibit new immigrants from access to social programs for a set period of 5-7 years to dissuade freeloaders from immigrating. Create incentives for innovation and investment in Canada.

4. Invest in Canada's infrastructure as needed. Rail service in the urban areas should be a priority to prepare Canada for the day when automobiles no longer rule the day.

Canada, being smaller than the USA, is better able to reorganize itself and compete on the world stage...no different than how a relatively small, upstart USA upstaged Britain and eclipsed France on the world stage.

The 21st century could be the advent of Canada as the leading economy of the world.

It could be.

   

The public school system in the USA is the problem and expecting them to solve the problem is like asking a crack dealer to solve crack dependency.

   

This guy is hilarious,were all out dogsledding. Ann Coulter and Tucker on Canada.

   

Yet attacks against us, like putting our PM on the Queen of Spades does no such thing.

If so many Americans care so little about Canada then why was anyone upset that we didn't go to Iraq? The US shouldn't ask for or expect support from a country that they think of in the manner you describe.



There is just as much hatred going out of America as coming in and it works both ways.



When either Chretein or Martin played it cool with the US they were accused of doing nothing and nothing was solved. When they talk tough they are accused of belittling or annoying the US. The critics don't care what the PM does and will portray any action as anti-American. The only con solution was "if we had sent our boys to Iraq (cause afganistan doen't count) then bush would graciously give in" which is nothing short of saying "we'll sell you the lives of X numbe of soldiers for 5 billion dollars.



Hardly.



You guys are not being that and quite frankly haven't since Clinton and (to stop you right here) perceived rejection of bush in favour of gore/kerry support (and none by the PM) is not a reason for bush to pull the shit with us that he has. frankly, given his attitude we should pull all troops from any US support position, pull out of NAFTA and start looking at other trading partners. You guys use any means necessary to influence election outcomes around the world and are currently doing that very thing in the BS PR mockery of free elections in Iraq.



Once again the theme is "If you aren't our puppy then we might just invade you". Is the US nothing but a nation of bullies who view every country that doesn't act exactly as it wants as a potential victim. If thats your thinking then you were never really our friend anyway.



It seems implied and has been said by people like carlson and coulter and I am sure, as you say, many Americans who think that. Quite frankly that speaks volumes about them and the kind of people living in the US doesn't it?

They have and are. There are books written about that very thing and the same type of carlson/coulture peope saying that "if Canada won't become part of the US then we'll just take the west". I think the book was "The vanishing Country"



Turn that around and say "It may not be our love of "X" that is expressed but our fear of the USA". Use your imagination for X.



Perhaps, perhaps not. They may be doing this knowing that only the provinces they want will join with the rest remaining a very angry and bitter country.



Can I put my plans for the US in?



Love to, but never happen. The only way anywhere close would be the partitioning of Quebec.



Agreed except for the mines. That would be looked at extremely badly around the world and drop world opinion so far it isn't funny. The only thing worse would be declaring that Koala bear burgers are now the official food of Canada.



Sorry. I can't see that being pulled of without every other town threatening to seperate.



Our taxes aren't as high as people think. Roads and roadwork eat up far more of our money then any other nation on earth and people don't seem to realize it. We have to resurface almost yearly which is far more then nations such as Australia. Very expensive. I also can't agree with severe cuts to social spending. Low income and corporate tax I agree with but keep the GST/PST.



See above. Our infrastructure is more expensive to maintain so we must be careful with building roads and such.

   

Now that idea is just plain crazy.

   

   

Derby, my comments were not attacks but just observations.

I don't care for how shallow most Americans are any more, but I need look no further than IceOwl to see Canadian shallowness exemplefied. All of his political opining can be distilled down to, "I hate Bush. I'm not entirely sure why, I just do."

My idea for urban rail investments would help reduce road maintainence demands. It'd also reduce pollution, but I didn't want to shock you too much by saying I support mass transit as a means to reduce pollution.

So what are your plans for the USA?

   

Go look in a mirror and ask yourself the same question.

   

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