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I just wanted to get a general census from the Canadians on the forum. Does everyone here like the healthcare they recieve in Canada? Is it 100 percent state funded, and do Canadians pay when they go for routine checkups for example? How does the whole system work? I dont think I like how my country's healthcare system currently is(usa). I get pretty good benefits from my employer but still get ripped off pretty good. My girlfriend has horrible insurance and sometimes I wish the US would have state run healthcare. Thats all, just want to hear from people on this topic. Thanks.

   

Upfront apologies for the substandard reply but this topic has been well debated and fought over and its friday night.

Short answer:

Canada is better at providing omni-coverage for primary care (ER, pediatrics, GP visits) but less so at providing timely secondary care (sports injuries, rehab, lifestyle, etc)

I'm in the healthcare profession. An insulting myth is that Canada is somehow in a "crisis" because the average Canadian cannot get immediate service for every possible medical visit for free. Its a lie. Canada has one of the best healthcare systems in the world and I've personally seen the UK, AUS, and US systems and we are at least every bit as good as them.

Our lifestyle and life expectancy are very high and that is part and parcel to having quality healthcare.

   

Medical and Health Care Benefits in BC

Premiums are $54 for 1 $96 for 2 and $108 for 3 or more. If you file your taxes and make under $28,000 you can apply for premium assistance. If you make under $20,000 your entitled to 100% deductible.

FAQ

Surgical Wait Times

BC's Fair PharmaCare Plan

Note Dental is not covered unless medical required (life or death).

   

Very interesting links. That answered most of my questions thanks. I think I like the settup Sweden has.

   

Who would have known those violent Vikings would create the best societies on earth......

   

I like our health care system and it has gone through various problems but things always have managed to work out . I am not a health care professional like Derby X is but I would say it is dignifying to know the health of the nation is kept as well as possible . My job strictly works to provide funding in areas the health care system cannot afford . It takes some of the burden off of the Tax Payer
The Two tier system growing in strength in Canada could make things extremely complicated as the rising cost to health care may weaken the Gov funded program so much it may collapse or at least loose its current value .(Not in the near future but eventually)

I had spent a little over a year on a health forum (almost daily) and heard so many US stories about the cost of health insurance premiums and deductables such as you mentioned .

I hope one day the US can slowly build on a program which would work rather than leaving people free to suffer and even die because they cannot afford some operations or their insurance has limitations .

It may sound slightly crazy to say that Medicine and Health Care should become a compulsory subject in all public/private/religious schools but regardless it has some degree of Merit in dealing with Health Care even though that may or may not be equivalant to a reduction in cost or Gov. funded healthcare or privately provided.

   

No problem, was the frontline for HIBC. When you call them you might just be talking to me directly. Currently I am taking some well deserved downtime but I processed hundreds of new resident applications so if you have a question fire away and I'll see if I can help. Keep in mind insurance will not start for new residents until the third month of their arrival and this must be a permanent move so legal documents such as landed immigrant papers will be required. This is to prevent someone from showing up just to use the system.

I like Sweden's system as well but you will find our system is becoming more private as time goes on most having to do with documentation and logistical support.

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I'm not sure I would justify $108.00 monthly premium for 3 people while a family in the US is around $300.00 as both have a degree of coverage problems while other provinces cover the premiums through PST .

   

Each province adheres to the standards of the Canada health act in their own fashion in accordance to their own budgets. Example: OHIPhas yet to charge directly for medical premiums but they do charge, through general revenue.

Keep in mind that for a family of 3 both the spouse and the dependent are $3000 deductibles. The ceiling for premium assistance is $28,000 as of July, 2005 but with the deductions if the combined income is less than $34,000 then they can still apply for the subsidy.

One way or another higher income families will be paying for medical insurance. Direct pay removes a great deal of administration while at the same time establishes clear expectations that give people ownership over their own coverage.

   

And who would've known those same descendants of Vikings would surrender those same societies to the muslims?

Sweden achieved a milestone this year when one of their public schools went 100% muslim in both faculty and student population. The school administration has imposed sharia on the school and no one has said 'boo' about it.

The Scandinavian countries are facing a challenge with those vaunted social programs of theirs because the muslim immigrants suck up the benefits and do little to support them with taxes.

By the way, government pays for things with your money. In one way or another, you are paying for your health care....and someone else's too, most likely. Make no mistake about that.

   

I don't think you're right on this point Bart. The most successful economies in the world (such as the US) have progressive immigration policies because immigrants are a net benefit to GDP - not only by providing workers in an age of declining birthrates but by paying taxes that pay for government services. There were all sorts of doomsayers who said that when Eastern European nations joined the European Union, the western nations would be swamped with shirkers attracted by generous social payouts. So, only the UK, Ireland and Sweden opened their borders to Poles, Czechs etc. Some two years later, these three economies are outperforming the rest of Europe - in part thanks to immigrants. Granted, dependents of immigrants are a 'drain' on social services as they're more likely to require substantial assistance - but the economically inactive are not restricted to immigrant communities.

You're right re Scanadanavia and their increasingly unaffordable social programmes, however - but that's to do with those declining birth rates and a need for greater labour flexibility.

   

Whats wrong with the school going Muslim? If they are all citizens, then I don't see the problem.

Also, you seem to be quite misinformed, as usual. You should check your information before posting crap. The school that has 100% muslim population and is stil public funded is in Denmark, not Sweden.

And as long as they continue to follow state education guidelines, I still don't see why they can't have a muslim school.

Racist anti-muslim propaganda has become common place comming out of your mouth, you should be ashamed.

   

I'm with Bart on the school - I'm uncomfortable with state schools opting into any form of Sharia law. If it was a private school, then there's a case - as long as it's closely monitored. It's nothing to do with racism but rather with insularity and 'ghettoization'. Obviously, privately funded schools should have much more leeway in their policy - as long as they maintain the base educational standards. But the job of taxpayer-funded schools is to educate the next generation of citizens - I don't know if a Sharia school would do that so well.

   

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