Immigrating to your country..
RUEZ @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:14 am
forby4 forby4:
Please don't help him Bart. We don't want him. Any loser who has to go to the internet to find a chick needs to get a life.
Says the guy with a blowup doll in his back room.
forby4 @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:15 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
forby4 forby4:
Please don't help him Bart. We don't want him. Any loser who has to go to the internet to find a chick needs to get a life.
Says the guy with a blowup doll in his back room.

Hey, I'm not the one with a sheep in my avatar!! FREAK
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson your profile says BC at times. Why isn't it okay for avrgdude to make that choice as well, without animosity from you?
It goes back to what I said this kid cant raise $4,000 in two years, and is already looking to try and find away around it. You can have him. I will donate to his fund also!
RUEZ @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:18 am
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson your profile says BC at times. Why isn't it okay for avrgdude to make that choice as well, without animosity from you?
It goes back to what I said this kid cant raise $4,000 in two years, and is already looking to try and find away around it. You can have him. I will donate to his fund also!
Ok please send cheques payable to Comrade RUEZ. I'll make sure it all goes to his immigration fund.
RUEZ RUEZ:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson your profile says BC at times. Why isn't it okay for avrgdude to make that choice as well, without animosity from you?
It goes back to what I said this kid cant raise $4,000 in two years, and is already looking to try and find away around it. You can have him. I will donate to his fund also!
Ok please send cheques payable to Comrade RUEZ. I'll make sure it all goes to his immigration fund.

LOL. ahhh comrade that is very captalistic of you we would not want to send you to gulag!
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson your profile says BC at times. Why isn't it okay for avrgdude to make that choice as well, without animosity from you?
I am not a Canadian citizen nor will I become one. I am not an immigrant either. I accept nothing from Canada but your kindnesses and hospitality and I leave nothing behind but about US$15,000 for property taxes which, weirdly, were due on July 4th this year.
I give to Canada while being a loyal US citizen.
DerbyX @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:09 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson your profile says BC at times. Why isn't it okay for avrgdude to make that choice as well, without animosity from you?
I am not a Canadian citizen nor will I become one. I am not an immigrant either. I accept nothing from Canada but your kindnesses and hospitality and I leave nothing behind but about US$15,000 for property taxes which, weirdly, were due on July 4th this year.
I give to Canada while being a loyal US citizen.

Are you angry with avrgdude because he wants to immigrate here? How do you feel about the CDNs who want to immigrate to the US?
DerbyX DerbyX:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson your profile says BC at times. Why isn't it okay for avrgdude to make that choice as well, without animosity from you?
I am not a Canadian citizen nor will I become one. I am not an immigrant either. I accept nothing from Canada but your kindnesses and hospitality and I leave nothing behind but about US$15,000 for property taxes which, weirdly, were due on July 4th this year.
I give to Canada while being a loyal US citizen.

Are you angry with avrgdude because he wants to immigrate here? How do you feel about the CDNs who want to immigrate to the US?
The vast majority of the Canadians who move here are seeking opportunities that do not exist in Canada and I applaud them for their initiative. The Americans who seek to go to Canada are looking to either escape to some fantasy land that Canada isn't (many return disappointed) or they are seeking to benefit from Canada's largesse with free health care & etc.
American entrepreneurs who will actually contribute something to an economy rarely go north as there are few advantages in doing so in terms of regulations & taxes.
I'm not being a bigot here, just pragmatic and my bias is actually
pro-Canadian if you step back and think about it.
IMHO, Canadians who go south are generally hard working people who don't need help from the government to succeed. Americans who go north are generally incapable of making it on their own for one reason or another.
As our case in point illustrates. He wants to move to Canada and wants Canada to pay for it.
The best thing he can do for America is to leave it.
I doubt he'll do much to improve Canada. If being a Canadian were truly in his heart he'd work his ass off at whatever job he needed to and get the $4K. C'mon, really now, he wants to make an international move and he doesn't have $4K to his name? Canada is not unreasonable for asking him to have some assets before he sets up house in Canada. If only the USA were so wise to require this of immigrants.
Were he a hard-working, contributing member of society then he wouldn't need to go anywhere, would he? He'd end up being successful on the fruits of his labors. In Canada it would seem that his fantasy is that he won't have to work so hard. Let him go north and then after a while he'll be back when he finds that Canadians have to work for a living, too.
RUEZ @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:41 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
IMHO, Canadians who go south are generally hard working people who don't need help from the government to succeed. Americans who go north are generally incapable of making it on their own for one reason or another.
Wow, you just insulted a whole lot of people. So I guess I as a Canadian that chooses to live in Canada must be on the government teat?

I think this is appropriate here.
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
IMHO, Canadians who go south are generally hard working people who don't need help from the government to succeed. Americans who go north are generally incapable of making it on their own for one reason or another.
Wow, you just insulted a whole lot of people. So I guess I as a Canadian that chooses to live in Canada must be on the government teat?

I think this is appropriate here.
No offence was intended to those Canadians who stay in Canada. None at all. But in my experience, the Canadians who come down here are hard working people who can make it on their own. They represent to me the best of Canada and they represent what I love so much about Canada that I bought a home in BC for my vacation time.
The vast majority of Canadians I meet are excellent people or I would spend my time and money elsewhere.
DerbyX @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:02 am
$1:
The vast majority of the Canadians who move here are seeking opportunities that do not exist in Canada and I applaud them for their initiative. The Americans who seek to go to Canada are looking to either escape to some fantasy land that Canada isn't (many return disappointed) or they are seeking to benefit from Canada's largesse with free health care & etc.
Ugly and disgusting. We had many US profs whom came up north for various reasons who would disgree. A very respected pathologist and head of my lab was an American who immigrated here as a doctor no less for no such reasons. Many Canadians go south seeking "the american dream" and return bitterly disappointed just as often.
$1:
American entrepreneurs who will actually contribute something to an economy rarely go north as there are few advantages in doing so in terms of regulations & taxes.
How very wrong you are. In addition to a favourable excahnge rate our gov't (both parties) offers far more monetary incentives then they should. It has been a common theme as the gov't tries to entice industry to certain areas through grants. I'm sorry but you are just wrong and the volume of US buisnesses up here bear that out.
$1:
IMHO, Canadians who go south are generally hard working people who don't need help from the government to succeed. Americans who go north are generally incapable of making it on their own for one reason or another.
Considering you statements about your own welfare I don't think they need to come up here to get it. Our customs as does yours screens out freeloaders like that (refugee claimants are another matter). Imigrating is not somethin undertaken lightly and many do it for a great many reasons. Taking advantage of our social programs is so far down the list it isn't funny.
$1:
Were he a hard-working, contributing member of society then he wouldn't need to go anywhere, would he? He'd end up being successful on the fruits of his labors.
Perhaps he just wants to experience life in a new country? Perhaps he's looking to escape some aspect of your society that isn't present in the same volume/way up here.
CamCKA @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:10 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DerbyX DerbyX:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I am not a Canadian citizen nor will I become one. I am not an immigrant either. I accept nothing from Canada but your kindnesses and hospitality and I leave nothing behind but about US$15,000 for property taxes which, weirdly, were due on July 4th this year.
I give to Canada while being a loyal US citizen.

Are you angry with avrgdude because he wants to immigrate here? How do you feel about the CDNs who want to immigrate to the US?
The vast majority of the Canadians who move here are seeking opportunities that do not exist in Canada and I applaud them for their initiative. The Americans who seek to go to Canada are looking to either escape to some fantasy land that Canada isn't (many return disappointed) or they are seeking to benefit from Canada's largesse with free health care & etc.
HAA HAA ... rotflmao...
Sorry, I'm just clearing the laughing-tears from my eyes.
I love it when Americans suggest that theirs is the only 'land of opportunity' and that people coming from abroad are fleeing their awful countries devoid of potential. (I know, I'm caricaturing your statement a bit here, but it feels like that's what's behind it).
I have lived in Canada, the U.S. and Europe. I could move to the U.S. at any time if I wanted to and get a green card immediately. I currently live in Edmonton, Alberta, because it offers me the best career and family opportunities of the 3. I'm 27 years old, I make a rather comfortable living, and I've got nowhere to go but up, in a company that is extremely entrepreneurial and fosters innovation.
Business taxes aren't higher in all provinces, and there are untapped market opportunities here that are already fully exploited inthe U.S. As far as I'm concerned, Canada IS the land of opportunity.
Oh and by the way, if you pay property taxes here, there's a good chance you're a resident. If you are a resident, then you ARE an immigrant.
- CamCKA
CamCKA CamCKA:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DerbyX DerbyX:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I am not a Canadian citizen nor will I become one. I am not an immigrant either. I accept nothing from Canada but your kindnesses and hospitality and I leave nothing behind but about US$15,000 for property taxes which, weirdly, were due on July 4th this year.
I give to Canada while being a loyal US citizen.

Are you angry with avrgdude because he wants to immigrate here? How do you feel about the CDNs who want to immigrate to the US?
The vast majority of the Canadians who move here are seeking opportunities that do not exist in Canada and I applaud them for their initiative. The Americans who seek to go to Canada are looking to either escape to some fantasy land that Canada isn't (many return disappointed) or they are seeking to benefit from Canada's largesse with free health care & etc.
HAA HAA ... rotflmao...
Sorry, I'm just clearing the laughing-tears from my eyes.
I love it when Americans suggest that theirs is the only 'land of opportunity' and that people coming from abroad are fleeing their awful countries devoid of potential. (I know, I'm caricaturing your statement a bit here, but it feels like that's what's behind it).
I have lived in Canada, the U.S. and Europe. I could move to the U.S. at any time if I wanted to and get a green card immediately. I currently live in Edmonton, Alberta, because it offers me the best career and family opportunities of the 3. I'm 27 years old, I make a rather comfortable living, and I've got nowhere to go but up, in a company that is extremely entrepreneurial and fosters innovation.
Business taxes aren't higher in all provinces, and there are untapped market opportunities here that are already fully exploited inthe U.S. As far as I'm concerned, Canada IS the land of opportunity.
Oh and by the way, if you pay property taxes here, there's a good chance you're a resident. If you are a resident, then you ARE an immigrant.
- CamCKA
I would love to know how you could so easliy get a green card? Cause i have been through the process!
CamCKA @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:39 am
Sorry man, I don't have any suggestions for you, mine is a bit of an exceptional case.
There is a class of green card called the 'Priority Worker' class, which basically allows management/executives from multinational companies to get an automatic green card if they are being transferred to the U.S. branch of their company.
From the US Citizenship and Immigration services website:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/eligibility.htm
$1:
A multinational manager or executive is eligible for priority worker status if he or she has been employed outside the U.S. in the three years preceding the petition for at least one year by a firm or corporation and seeks to enter the U.S to continue service to that firm or organization.
CamCKA CamCKA:
Oh and by the way, if you pay property taxes here, there's a good chance you're a resident. If you are a resident, then you ARE an immigrant.
- CamCKA
I'm not a resident and I'm not an immigrant. I own a second home in Oak Bay (Victoria) and I work and live primarily in California.
Now I may retire to BC but that possibility is some twenty years from now so we'll see.