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All racial slurs mean the same thing Chrissy...that the one speaking them is an idiot.

   

Of course you're not - you're the one over-stating and attempting to stir a hysterical reaction by reducing the question to one of semantics.

It does exist - it is not a problem in this country - although some people, predominantly left leaners would have the majority believe it is by stirring this controversial subject and whipping the sheep into a frenzy immediately playing into the hands of the self-servers.

This is not directed at you specifically, but at the left and the sheep in general.


If I assume you are talking about the incidents mentioned earlier then I agree Stonehouse was the victim of racism. The terribly incompetent cops in Saskatoon are well known and well documented for their ineptness and their racist attitudes towards the aboriginal community.

Dudley George was not shot because he was an aboriginal. He happened to be one of a group of aboriginals who were conducting a road block. The idiot OPP flatfeet shot him and were later heard to make racist comments. But don't take it out of context. If they had been Mennonites, Dukabors or Catholics instead of natives, inane and disparaging comments would still have been made. It's cops psychologically beefing up their own toughness to themselves and each other in a stressed environment.

   

Yea, lived in the 'Hat for three years. Didn't see any racism there though, what are you refering too?

Saskatoon and Regina both have a huge problem in the division between natives and the rest of the population. It isn't just the cops, nor is it all the cops.

Karra, I'm wondering how you can state in one sentance that racism here (in Canada) exists and in the next state that it isn't a problem. If it exists, it's a problem. And it exists BIGTIME in SK. I know, that's where I grew up.

   

Adam, you said, "Newfoundland is mostly white. I would say Asian would be the second."

When I was growing up Newfie jokes were the most common racial thing around. Most of my friends were differently coloured and a lot of them could barely stutter a few words of English, but we all sat around telling Newfie jokes.

   

We tell um too

   

It's Stonechild, Karra, not Stonehouse. At least have enough respect to get the name right. Trying to characterise recognition of racism as a problem as stirring things up shows an ignorance of the issues that can only lead to more problems.

Robair wrote,

They do have huge problems. Those problems also extend to the small communities in the province. They are present in Winnipeg too. While it may not be all cops, there is an undertone of racism in the attitudes of many cops and a culture that encourages those not sharing those views to look the other way or remain silent.

   

Phew! That was close - I nearly wrote Stonehenge. The name(s) of the innocent and sometimes not-so-innocent are seldom as important as the incident itself and the root cause(s). (Can't wait for the tirade on this one.)

Trying to create situation where there need not be one is typical of you and your hard left partisan chicanery.

There are plenty of sheep out there being led over the cliff without you trying to manufacture an illusion. And to think it's all for personal satisfaction.

How pathetic is that?

   

Are you going to try to start a fight with me on every thread, Karra? Is that your goal?

You can sit there and say that racism exists, but isn't a problem. You can sit there and say that it doesn't matter if you got the name of the victim right. You can sit there and look like an idiot all you want. ou'll still be wrong.

   

Usually I agree with Karra but not on this one, far from being a "stirred up" issue I can tell you right now as someone not exactly hailing from the hard left that racism that this is something that's constantly underreported and dismissed in Canada, or foisted off as being an American problem.

You may have been fortunate enough to have never have seen the face of real racial hatred but I have and in fact I may decide to leave the country because of it.

   

What's to fight about?

You believe one thing and I believe another. I just wish you'd stop following me around like a lost puppy.

   

Not following you at all, Karra. I'm not lost either. I know exactly where I am. Now "Go home, dog!"

   

Tsk tsk rev. Please stop following me around the board like the lost puppy you are; not only this one but the other as well. If I throw a Milkbone over there will you fetch it? Better yet, why don't you stand naked at the intersection of Portage and Main in the morning, if the traffic doesn't get you and your irresponsible ideals, the cold surely will.

Roscoe, I can assure you I have seen racism in this country and others first hand. It's ugly and disgusting. But some people would have you believe it's bigger than it is. The integration of races has never been easy.

One only has to look at what took place in the UK, specifically London in the sixties and seventies. The colonies that used to 'belong' to Britain decided to go to their other home, and they came by the tens of thousands from all over the Commonwealth. They started from scratch, doing menial jobs if they could find them, and many did.

The resentment from the lazy white, union-controlled work force was huge. But who could blame the immigrants? Well, everyone did and there was serious talk of sending many back to the Caribbean Islands, Africa and India and Pakistan.

The immigrants endured, carved livings for themselves and sowed roots. The culmination and fruition of that is available for all to see today. But it took generations - proving it can happen and will continue - it just takes time for certain taught and inbred prejudices to fall by the wayside.

Look at Toronto for instance - want some great food? No better place in this country for the variety - and who of you amongst those pasty faced round eyes goes out for Canadian?

Racism will always exist as long as there are races that look different from one another and those that have and don't have - just the way of the world.

   

It's still a problem, Karra. It affects people in very adverse ways. It keeps people from advancing. It hurts and it kills. Maybe you are willing to accept that as the cost of doing business, but most here seem unwilling to follow that shallow, meaningless outlook.

   

I wish I'd saved an article that ran in the paper here not to long ago. It stated that many liberals in Richmond and Vancouver were upset with the amount of Asian members there were. The white members were upset that they weren't being represented fairly. Richmond and Vancouver is predominently Asian. They are no longer the minority here, they are the majority, so it just follows that they would have more say being they had more population.

The Indo-Canadian community here in Vancouver are having a very hard time right now. They DO deal with racism every day. Being as white as I am, people often feel the need to "bond" with me. I was recently targeted on the bus by 1 individual who felt that He and I were the only Canadians on the bus. What he meant was the only white people on the bus. It was intensely disturbing. He was angry that his poor white baby boy was a minority in the school. He really did not realize that some of the Canadians on that bus who were not white may well have been in canada longer then his family.


While working in Richmond I had left in my car a book that I was reading. the title of the book was "Fuher-Ex" It had on the cover a sentence describing the author as a "former neo nazi". We had a gentleman come in for a meeting. He worked for WCB. He asked who drives the red mazda. I said 'I do'. He said that he'd noticed the book I was reading and wanted to know if I was interested in that sort of thing because he had some "literature" that was left behind after a friends death and he wasn't interested in it. Thought maybe I'd like to have it. The literature he was refering to and explained in detail was "hate" literature. Well, low and behold a white supremacy group right here in BC. Better yet, they have members working for WCB. I almost fell of my chair.

I explained the pretext of the book to him and told him that I was not interested in white supremacy. I wish I'd told him I was jewish. A little white lie like that wouldn't be counted against me now would it?

Yes, racism is a problem. It's spreading.


I have no time or use for poor white people who feel they've been unjustly done because they are the minority in a neighbourhood.

   

Racism is a problem in Canada because of the divide and conquer policies of multi-culturalism and bilingualism. All they do is encourage racial segregation and anymosity between groups.

In Quebec, racism against English speakers is allowed and condoned.

The federal government practices racism every day with their policies of reverse discrimination in their hiring practices.

   

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