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IcedCap @ Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:26 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That's great if you know people like that. I'm talking about the ones in Britain and etc. who want everyone else to remove pictures of pigs from their desks, their Piglet figurines, and they want pubs that are hundreds of years old to change their names or signage because there are pigs in the names or signage.
And then there's the ones like in Holland who kill people who criticise Islam.
That's who I'm talking about. They need to assimilate and let other people do what they want and not dictate their religious beliefs onto the rest of us - like they are doing.
And then there's the ones like in Holland who kill people who criticise Islam.
That's who I'm talking about. They need to assimilate and let other people do what they want and not dictate their religious beliefs onto the rest of us - like they are doing.
I'm originally from Britain so you can include British Muslims in my aquaintances as well. Let me tell you something Bart, this is how it works, an INDIVIDUAL malcontent Muslim complains to the HR dept, the HR dept being the self-serving, mountain out of molehill making, idiots they mostly are overreact desperate not to offend anyone even though the MAJORITY of Muslims couldn't give a f**k. Then people like you complain ALL Muslims are oversensitive and want to impose their beliefes on everyone else.
Prime example at my company the VP of HR made us change the name of the Christmas Party to Holiday Party, no one had complained, not one non-Christian but they changed it anyway creating the perception that the Muslims, Hindus, Jews etc were trying to change our traditions.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Then I take it that if nothing offensive is supposed to be said or posted about Islam then you'll respect the same rules for Christianity?
Yes Bart you can. In the Arts and Media community there's a mentality that's become prevalent where a piece isn't worthy unless someone's offended and what easier target is there than organized religion.
PluggyRug @ Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:51 pm
Avro on the bench Avro on the bench:
I'll go away now until I am (or if I am) permitted back before hwacker begins to cry.
TTFN and have a good weekend.
P.S.
Toronto Star
All evil eh?
TTFN and have a good weekend.
P.S.
$1:
Jordanians turn anger on al-Zarqawi
At least 56 killed in trio of suicide attacks in Amman
Nov. 10, 2005. 11:19 AM
JAMAL HALABY
ASSOCIATED PRESS
AMMAN, Jordan - Hundreds of angry Jordanians rallied Thursday outside one of three U.S.-based hotels attacked by suicide bombers, shouting, "Burn in hell, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi!" after the Jordanian-born terrorist's group claimed responsibility for the blasts that killed at least 56 people.
In an Internet statement, the terror group "Al Qaeda in Iraq" linked the blasts at the Grand Hyatt, the Radisson SAS and the Days Inn hotels to the war in Iraq and called Amman the "backyard garden" for U.S. operations.
Police continued a broad security lockdown and authorities sent DNA samples for testing to identify the attackers. Land borders were reopened after being closed for nearly 12 hours.
The Amman protest was organized by Jordan's 14 professional and trade unions — made up of both hardline Islamic groups and leftist political organizations — traditionally a vocal critic of King Abdullah II's moderate and pro-western policies.
Protesters — including women and children — gathered outside a bombed hotel, shouting, "Death to al-Zarqawi, the villain and the traitor!" Drivers honked the horns of vehicles decorated with Jordanian flags and posters of the king. A helicopter hovered overhead.
"We sacrifice our lives for you, Amman!" the protesters chanted.
State television said a second rally was planned in the Red Sea port of Aqaba, where attackers using Katyusha rockets narrowly missed a U.S. ship and killed a Jordanian soldier in August.
The streets of the capital appeared deserted early Thursday, which was declared a day of mourning. Public and private offices were closed under government instructions, apparently to allow tightened security measures to take hold.
Government spokesman Bassel Tarawneh said 56 people were killed in the suicide attacks, adding the toll likely would rise. The victims included 15 Jordanians, five Iraqis, one Saudi, one Palestinian, one American, three Chinese and one Indonesian; 29 others had not been identified.
Dan McTeague, parliamentary secretary for Canadians abroad, said Wednesday there were no reports of Canadians injured in the bombings.
He said 1,820 Canadians are registered with the Department of Foreign Affairs as being in Amman.
"No doubt there are Canadians in the vicinity," he said, adding attempts were being made to contact all Canadians in the region.
The nearly simultaneous attacks wounded more than 115 people. Police detained several people overnight, although it was unclear if they were suspects or witnesses.
The Al Qaeda claim said Jordan became a target because it was "a backyard garden for the enemies of the religion, Jews and crusaders ... a filthy place for the traitors ... and a centre for prostitution." The authenticity of the posting could not be independently verified, but it appeared on an Islamic website that is a clearing house for statements by militant groups.
The claim was signed in al-Zarqawi's name.
The hotels, frequented by Israelis and Americans among other foreign guests, have long been on Al Qaeda's hit list.
Iraqi government spokesman Laith Kubba said the attack should alert Jordan that it needed to stop hosting former members of Saddam Hussein's regime.
"I hope that these attacks will wake up the `Jordanian street' to end their sympathy with Saddam's remnants ... who exploit the freedom in this country to have a safe shelter to plot their criminal acts against Iraqis."
He also said Iraqis may have had a hand in the attacks.
"The al-Qaida organization has become as a plague that affected Iraq and is now transmitted by the same rats to other countries. A lot of Iraqis, especially former intelligence and army officers, joined this criminal cell," Kubba said.
Deputy Prime Minister Marwan Muasher said shortly after the blasts that al-Zarqawi was a "prime suspect." Al-Zarqawi is known for his animosity to the country's Hashemite monarchy. The claim of responsibility did not name King Abdullah II but twice referred to the "tyrant of Jordan."
The suicide bombers detonated explosives at the three hotels just before 9 p.m. One explosion occurred inside a hall where 300 guests were celebrating a wedding.
Al-Zarqawi is mostly known for the string of devastating suicide attacks launched in Iraq, often against U.S. targets but also against Shiite Iraqis. He has shown a flair for propaganda and drawn wide support among militants in the region.
But outside Iraq, and especially in Jordan, he has been equally active.
He was sentenced to death in absentia by a Jordanian military court for the October 2002 assassination of a U.S. diplomat, Laurence Foley, in Amman.
His group also is accused of previously trying to blow up the Radisson SAS in Amman as part of the so-called millennium plot in 1999 and of the August attack at the Jordanian port of Aqaba.
At least 56 killed in trio of suicide attacks in Amman
Nov. 10, 2005. 11:19 AM
JAMAL HALABY
ASSOCIATED PRESS
AMMAN, Jordan - Hundreds of angry Jordanians rallied Thursday outside one of three U.S.-based hotels attacked by suicide bombers, shouting, "Burn in hell, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi!" after the Jordanian-born terrorist's group claimed responsibility for the blasts that killed at least 56 people.
In an Internet statement, the terror group "Al Qaeda in Iraq" linked the blasts at the Grand Hyatt, the Radisson SAS and the Days Inn hotels to the war in Iraq and called Amman the "backyard garden" for U.S. operations.
Police continued a broad security lockdown and authorities sent DNA samples for testing to identify the attackers. Land borders were reopened after being closed for nearly 12 hours.
The Amman protest was organized by Jordan's 14 professional and trade unions — made up of both hardline Islamic groups and leftist political organizations — traditionally a vocal critic of King Abdullah II's moderate and pro-western policies.
Protesters — including women and children — gathered outside a bombed hotel, shouting, "Death to al-Zarqawi, the villain and the traitor!" Drivers honked the horns of vehicles decorated with Jordanian flags and posters of the king. A helicopter hovered overhead.
"We sacrifice our lives for you, Amman!" the protesters chanted.
State television said a second rally was planned in the Red Sea port of Aqaba, where attackers using Katyusha rockets narrowly missed a U.S. ship and killed a Jordanian soldier in August.
The streets of the capital appeared deserted early Thursday, which was declared a day of mourning. Public and private offices were closed under government instructions, apparently to allow tightened security measures to take hold.
Government spokesman Bassel Tarawneh said 56 people were killed in the suicide attacks, adding the toll likely would rise. The victims included 15 Jordanians, five Iraqis, one Saudi, one Palestinian, one American, three Chinese and one Indonesian; 29 others had not been identified.
Dan McTeague, parliamentary secretary for Canadians abroad, said Wednesday there were no reports of Canadians injured in the bombings.
He said 1,820 Canadians are registered with the Department of Foreign Affairs as being in Amman.
"No doubt there are Canadians in the vicinity," he said, adding attempts were being made to contact all Canadians in the region.
The nearly simultaneous attacks wounded more than 115 people. Police detained several people overnight, although it was unclear if they were suspects or witnesses.
The Al Qaeda claim said Jordan became a target because it was "a backyard garden for the enemies of the religion, Jews and crusaders ... a filthy place for the traitors ... and a centre for prostitution." The authenticity of the posting could not be independently verified, but it appeared on an Islamic website that is a clearing house for statements by militant groups.
The claim was signed in al-Zarqawi's name.
The hotels, frequented by Israelis and Americans among other foreign guests, have long been on Al Qaeda's hit list.
Iraqi government spokesman Laith Kubba said the attack should alert Jordan that it needed to stop hosting former members of Saddam Hussein's regime.
"I hope that these attacks will wake up the `Jordanian street' to end their sympathy with Saddam's remnants ... who exploit the freedom in this country to have a safe shelter to plot their criminal acts against Iraqis."
He also said Iraqis may have had a hand in the attacks.
"The al-Qaida organization has become as a plague that affected Iraq and is now transmitted by the same rats to other countries. A lot of Iraqis, especially former intelligence and army officers, joined this criminal cell," Kubba said.
Deputy Prime Minister Marwan Muasher said shortly after the blasts that al-Zarqawi was a "prime suspect." Al-Zarqawi is known for his animosity to the country's Hashemite monarchy. The claim of responsibility did not name King Abdullah II but twice referred to the "tyrant of Jordan."
The suicide bombers detonated explosives at the three hotels just before 9 p.m. One explosion occurred inside a hall where 300 guests were celebrating a wedding.
Al-Zarqawi is mostly known for the string of devastating suicide attacks launched in Iraq, often against U.S. targets but also against Shiite Iraqis. He has shown a flair for propaganda and drawn wide support among militants in the region.
But outside Iraq, and especially in Jordan, he has been equally active.
He was sentenced to death in absentia by a Jordanian military court for the October 2002 assassination of a U.S. diplomat, Laurence Foley, in Amman.
His group also is accused of previously trying to blow up the Radisson SAS in Amman as part of the so-called millennium plot in 1999 and of the August attack at the Jordanian port of Aqaba.
Toronto Star
All evil eh?
When muslim terrorists strike their own people they cry foul.
When they hit western nations they dance in the street.
Some sort of double standard, do you not think?
A lot of innocent Muslim people died in those bombings. I just hope that the rest of Islam will denounce this atrocity..... my breath is not being held waiting.