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Thanks for the info...could you please post who is leading the NATO force and what percentage of the NATO force is made up of American content...thanks fat

   

You two have piqued my curiosity. I would like to know who is leading and what percentage there is.......

   

You are aware that Canada is in command of the mission at the moment. It rotates between contributing nations.
The rest of the info you require is on the NATO website.

Be a good chap and look it up.

   

Based on those facts...is what hwacker wrote (We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone)
a shocker to anyone....you might not believe it but I support our troops 100% what I don't support is hawacker trying to use those deaths to promote the Cons.(This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again.)

   

No Eyebrock the Canadian mission was under NATO now it is under Operation enduring Freedom. Check it out. Directly from the Government of Canada

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So why is this not news in Canada I'm sure that a lot of Canadian would love to know this

   

The name of the mission is irrelevant. The troops are there as a result of our NATO commitment to NATO. That hasn't changed and won't.

   

Because we should alienate from Canadians and their minds that we are peacekeepers. Not just in Afghanistan, but everywhere.

   

Cleaning up whose mess? The American 10th Mountain Division has been fighting in Kandahar for the last 4 years. Now that Canada has joined the party, you have the gall to suggest we're "cleaning up after them"?

Canada isn't cleaning up after anyone. What we are doing is pulling our own fucking weight for once.

   

Motorcycleboy

Sure it is relevant, If the Canadian where under the Nato command we would still be in Kabul. Now we are fighting right along the US and the Afgan know it!

I know that pride sometime can obscure your jugement but bad foreign policy lead to innocent civiliant getting kill. And our engagement with the US could very well lead to a bomb in Montreal or Toronto subway.

   

From that very DND web site:



Now I know English is a second language but what part of "NATO Leadership" didn't you get?
Are you trying to say that Afghanistan is now run by Canada and we say what goes?

Leadership of the mission is now with Canada, in a few months time, it will be a Dutch guy, or a Brit. New leadership but the mission goes on.

You guys really do need to research this stuff.

   

Now, that, along with your signature was just far too funny!

   

FFS guy bad foreign policy have consequence! And it is not alway the soldier who pay the price. So Motorcycleboy your are ready to die for Afganistan?!? well good for you but if a bomb blow in one major Canadian city it will not be soldier or politician that will get hurt but ordinary citizen! And for what??? So that big shot in washington can have there pipline pass true Afganistan? Because our government wanted to be friend with our neibor? because the Afgany people really need the protection of the feeble Canadian military?!? there Afgan for christ sake they know very well how to defend themself! Go ask the Russian.

What ideal are you talking about anyway? I'm sure it's all good and all in theory but by siding with the American we will be targeted like american. And our dear neibor to the south have comited war crime that the news media in the "anglo sphere" have not reported. But the whole arabe world know very well.

take a look if you have the stomac for it Use of Phosphorus Bomb in Irak by the US military! here is the "cleaned up version by the BBC

To Be in Afganistan beside American troop is not courageous it is reckless! that the difference. They are dozen of conflic around the world in wich the Canadian could take part and really make a difference.

Here something you guy will never see on TV Falluja Massacre

   

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't we been pulling our weight since our goddamn creation?

Am Revolution

1812

WWI

WWII

Korea

Yugoslavia

Gulf War 1

Afghanistan.

   

You missed the Boer War, a significant moment.

   

No, I wouldn't say we have. We've taken part in a few operations, but you can't argue we've done much heavy lifting since about 1953.

In WW1, 2 and Korea, granted, we made a significant contribution far above our weight. But that's where it ended.

During the Cold War, when the US and Britain were staring down the Communists, Canada was cutting defence spending in favour of social programs, in effect enjoying a free ride on the backs of the American taxpayer.

Our comittment to the Gulf War was token. It consisted of some CF-18's flying combat air patrols in a war where the USAF had already destroyed the entire Iraqi Air Force. We didn't send any real combat ground troops, save for a few dozen combat engineers.

Our so called tradition of "peacekeeping" is a myth. From the 1950's to the 90's, that much vaunted Canadian comittment consisted of a battalion in Cyprus, a couple hundred comms personal in the Golan, and a few dozen officers spread throughout some of the world's missions. In total, our entire deployed peacekeeping force of which Canadians are so proud, was smaller than either the Peel or Ottawa Police Forces.

In Somalia, we pulled out after only one rotation as soon as controversy began to dog the mission and threatened Kim Campbell's bid for re-election.

In Yugo we did make a significant comittment. But so did a number of other nations, like the Brits, Danes, French, etc. And the problem didn't get resolved until the US stepped up to the plate and launched air strikes on the combatants.

Our initial deployment to Afghanistan in 2002 was noteworthy. But what many Canadians forget is that , as soon as we could, we withdrew from the theatre. We only lasted 6 months there before Chretien pulled us out.

Then in 2003, in an attempt to avoid deploying troops to Iraq, we announced we were going back, this time to Kabul. Talk about szchizophrenic foreign policy!

Kabul was boring, and, with a few exceptions (Short/Beerenfinger etc) was essentially garrison duty, not combat.

Which brings us to Kandahar in 2006 when, as I said, we're actually pulling our weight for a change.

   

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