Canada Kicks Ass
Taliban recruiting gone bad???

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SJ-24 @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:46 am

I found this an interesting read. Not sure what to make of it as it could be the good old propaganda machine at work....You decide! :?

April 9, 2006

Taliban convinced Canadians will tire of war, as MPs debate army's combat role

By MURRAY BREWSTER

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (CP) - As MPs gather in Ottawa to discuss Canada's more combative role in southern Afghanistan, a senior Taliban official and coalition commanders painted two disparate images Sunday of where the war is headed.

In a weekend interview with The Canadian Press, insurgent spokesman Qari Yuosaf Ahmedi said the Taliban are convinced the resolve of the Canadian people is weak.

As suicide attacks and roadside blasts increase, the public will quickly grow weary, he said.

"We think that when we kill enough Canadians they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

Given the fact troops are already deployed, Ahmedi suggested Monday's House of Commons debate as a sign of indecision among Canadians.

In addition to his fire-breathing rhetoric, the Taliban's public relations spokesman claimed that the insurgency had recruited 180 suicide bombers for operations in and around Kandahar over the next few weeks.

He said they are prepared to attack Canadians "any one else, at any place and at any time."

But coalition commanders had a vastly different assessment, painting the Taliban as cornered, marginalized into rural pockets, struggling to raise money and find recruits.

"The reason we think the Taliban are falling apart is because the pattern of attacks we're seeing is not co-ordinated," said Maj. Quentin Innis, a Canadian liaison officer with the local community.

"It may appear there are a lot of attacks going on and those are regretable."

On Sunday, Kandahar city was rocked by two separate remote-control improvised explosive device (IED) attacks, which injured 11 Afghans, including two children.

Senior Taliban commanders reside on the Pakistan side of the Afghan border and where many suiciders - as they known by local Afghans-are recruited, said the chief of staff to multi-national brigade commander.

British Col. Chris Vernon said, while the coalition has faced increased attacks, it has been successful is eliminating junior insurgent commanders.

"Various middle level leaders in Afghanistan have been removed from the circuit over the last month," he told reporters on Sunday.

"When they're asking for volunteers to come in and take those mid-level positions, there is a distinct lack of volunteers coming forward, particularly out of Pakistan."

He also said requests by front-line Taliban for more funds and equipment have not been answered.

Canada's more front-line involvement in this dirt poor, war-ravaged country will be the subject of a "note-taking" debate in the House of Commons on Monday. It will be largely a symbolic exercise as the matter will not be the subject of a vote.

The new Conservative government has been reluctant to hold the debate because of its potential impact on the morale of the country's 2,200 troops deployed in southern Afghanistan. A few weeks ago, a public opinion survey found that a majority of respondants were opposed to Canada's more aggressive posture and wanted the country to return to its more traditional role of peacekeeping.

Since 2002, the conflict has cost the lives of 11 Canadian soldiers and one diplomat.

A senior Afghan army officer said Sunday that Canadian politicians need to understand the positive contribution the army has made to the region, beyond military assistance.

"The Canadians did a lot of things, especially for Kandahar," Maj. Rahmatullah Sha, the deputy garrison commander of the city, said through a translator.

"They've done a lot of reconstruction and security help. The security of Kandahar is normal. It's not that bad."

His account was somewhat contradicted by Innis, who laid out statistics from the local media that show there have been 24 roadside explosions or suicide car attacks between June 2005 and March 2006. Those assaults have killed 32 civilians.

"We understand the citizens of Kandahar don't feel secure, but there are two things you have to realize," said Innis. "The first thing is that there are more unsuccessful Taliban attacks than successful. I can't go into the details but we've prevented more attacks than those that have occurred."

The carnage can be blamed on foreign fighters, including jihadists from Pakistan, Chechnya and some Arab countries, said Sha.

Coalition forces claimed to have killed a senior Taliban commander during an offensive in southern Helmand province Friday, said a statement by the U.S. military. Although the man was not identified, authorities claimed the commander "was directly tied to dozens of improvised explosive device attacks."

   



hwacker @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:50 pm

"We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again. We are NO different then the USA in their eyes.

   



fatbasturd @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:09 pm

hwacker hwacker:
"We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again. We are NO different then the USA in their eyes.

Well seeing how we are the only ones there.....cleaning up the mess left to us by the good old boys down south.....who the fuck else do you think they would be killing?

   



Tricks @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:10 pm

fatbasturd fatbasturd:
hwacker hwacker:
"We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again. We are NO different then the USA in their eyes.

Well seeing how we are the only ones there.....cleaning up the mess left to us by the good old boys down south.....who the fuck else do you think they would be killing?
good point fat :lol:

   



PluggyRug @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:14 pm

fatbasturd fatbasturd:
hwacker hwacker:
"We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again. We are NO different then the USA in their eyes.

Well seeing how we are the only ones there.....cleaning up the mess left to us by the good old boys down south.....who the fuck else do you think they would be killing?


I think there are troops from something like 30 countries in Afghanistan, so we are not alone.

   



fatbasturd @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:17 pm

PluggyRug PluggyRug:
fatbasturd fatbasturd:
hwacker hwacker:
"We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again. We are NO different then the USA in their eyes.

Well seeing how we are the only ones there.....cleaning up the mess left to us by the good old boys down south.....who the fuck else do you think they would be killing?


I think there are troops from something like 30 countries in Afghanistan, so we are not alone.

Who is leading this group ?

   



hwacker @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:21 pm

We have 2200 troops there, the US has 4 to 6 times that.

   



hwacker @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:22 pm

I think FB needs to get the "I hate GWB and the USA" out of his head.

   



fatbasturd @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:25 pm

Why give me any good reason....and I will think about it.

   



hwacker @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:30 pm

Na you're lost.

BTW how's it going with no representation in the new Gov't, Oh thats right Peter is looking out for you guys :-)

   



fatbasturd @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:33 pm

hwacker hwacker:
Na you're lost.

BTW how's it going with no representation in the new Gov't, Oh thats right Peter is looking out for you guys :-)

Just what I thought not one good reason ...so you have to try to deflect away from the question.. R=UP

   



Tricks @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:34 pm

hwacker hwacker:
Na you're lost.
No, you just can't think of a reason, so you shoo it off with a flame

Here is a question for the board, how the hell does Hwanker not have the flamer medal?

   



EyeBrock @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:37 pm

fatbasturd fatbasturd:
hwacker hwacker:
"We think that when we kill enough Canadians, they will quit war and return home," Ahmedi said in an interview, conducted through a translator, over a satellite telephone.

This is key for the Liberal's. Read it then read it again. We are NO different then the USA in their eyes.

Well seeing how we are the only ones there.....cleaning up the mess left to us by the good old boys down south.....who the fuck else do you think they would be killing?


Wrong my portly chum, NATO is in Afganistan. That was the mission, a NATO mission.
Our NATO allies are on the ground with us.
It's an Article 5 mission in response to 911.
Get with the reasons why we are there. It's because we are in NATO.

   



Canadian_Mind @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:39 pm

good question, wanna nominate him or should I?

   



hwacker @ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:41 pm

Tricks Tricks:
hwacker hwacker:
Na you're lost.
No, you just can't think of a reason, so you shoo it off with a flame

Here is a question for the board, how the hell does Hwanker not have the flamer medal?


Flame, no, I'm not wasting my time trying to make someone see the light when he's not capable. Just like someone trying to tell me the Liberals are good for Canada, waste of bandwidth.

   



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