Can Canada vote Quebec out of Canada?
USCAdad @ Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:07 am
I think Provinces/States should have the ability to unilaterally remove themselves from their larger governments (more so for States than Provinces). I'm in favor of weak federal goverments. Threatening to leave was something that was used a few times in early American history. I think it ensures a smaller Federal goverment. If abused, I think the other entities should also have the ability to say enough is enough and encourage the troublesome member to leave.
SJ-24 @ Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:45 pm
Interesting question. For the most part everyone here has been talking about Quebec wanting to leave. From time to time we have brushed this question of booting them out, but not on a serious note.
By law, yes we can. Any question can be put forward and asked. unless it goes against international law, the yes vote could be put into law by the government of the day. Now that's where things get a little sticky. Since the BQ and the Communist...I mean Liberals, out number the current government, the vote coudl be turned down by the HOC ruling opposition parties. However, I think any politician who voted against it would find themselves out of a job next election.
Well it wouldn't happen overnight or anything. It will probably take some time to sort things out. Canada will need to change our constitution and remove Quebec from it. I don’t think Quebec would keep its present day territorial size either. It probably will only get to keep half of it or maybe whichever riding vote the strongest against separatism. The crown will still be in Quebec probably the Lieutenant Governor will become its Governor General until they decide if they want to become a republic or not. If the crown lets them become one that is but they probably will.
A referendum or constitutional amendment to remove them would only be the beginning. I see this as like the hand over of Hong Kong to China. We will probably set a date to transfer everything over to Quebec. Plus Quebec will have to adopt things from stamps to it's own currency. We wouldn't have free trade either unless Quebec wants to sign onto NAFTA. It will have to raise it’s own armed forces too if it desires any. It should all be interesting to watch no doubt.
SJ-24 @ Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:33 pm
It is my understanding that Quebec isn't involved and signed onto the Constitution.....If that's the case, would that not mean the paperwork is void? Just a question of the legality of voting them out. And lets not forget that their departure woud mean they only retain the area they held before they joined the Confederation, which I understand it to be a very small chunk of what they currently have. I also see the native issue to be a huge problem to Quebec. Everyone knows that natives are a pain in the ass to deal with...Perhaps Canada should let the Nation of Quebec take them with them! 
DerbyX @ Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:19 pm
By what law can Canada strip someone of their citizenship?
That gets to the heart of the matter.
Can Canada strip someone of their citizenship, someone who was born here and has no ties to another country (legally)?
If we can't then I don't believe we can simply kick a province out.
None of this touches the fact that why would Canada ever turn their back of its own citizens simply becasue they live in a province that has a group of vocal seperatists.
I wouldn't strip Streaker, Mario, Proculation, Hoser, etc of being Canadian (or demand they to move) because their province has a greater amount of fuckwits then mine.
I believe we should be able to expell the seperatists though.
Send the army into any bloc or PQ meeting, round up everybody and stick then on a boat bound for france.
I would support that entirely.
Clogeroo Clogeroo:
Well it wouldn't happen overnight or anything. It will probably take some time to sort things out. Canada will need to change our constitution and remove Quebec from it. I don’t think Quebec would keep its present day territorial size either. It probably will only get to keep half of it or maybe whichever riding vote the strongest against separatism. The crown will still be in Quebec probably the Lieutenant Governor will become its Governor General until they decide if they want to become a republic or not. If the crown lets them become one that is but they probably will.
A referendum or constitutional amendment to remove them would only be the beginning. I see this as like the hand over of Hong Kong to China. We will probably set a date to transfer everything over to Quebec. Plus Quebec will have to adopt things from stamps to it's own currency. We wouldn't have free trade either unless Quebec wants to sign onto NAFTA. It will have to raise it’s own armed forces too if it desires any. It should all be interesting to watch no doubt.
It would be econimic suicide for Quebec to leave. Major corporations that call Quebec home would be out of there fast.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Will there ever be a time when Canada says "enough is enough" with Quebec and their selfish, seperatist bullshit?
Let's just let them leave. Please.
People,
Let's chill out a second. I know, I know, !
There are 2 kinds in Quebec. Separatists, but let's not forget about the
Federalists. That means that some of us do not want to separate from Canada. I cannot make it any simpler folks..........
Although, there is some pre conception about Quebec, I do understand, but let's all look at this in a civilized way, shall we !
Quebec has some of the things that Canada needs, just like the rest of Canada has what Quebec needs. Instead of wanting to separate, Quebec should put what it has to good use.
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Nonono! Let's Keep Quebec!
Just take the separatists...
Now that is the way it ought to be.
Quebec isn't so bad. As long as you take the damn separatists out of it.
We got Hydro, which the late Robert Bourassa, a non separatist, developed.
The only thing the PQ developed is debt and Quebec wanting to be a nation. What kind of joke is that ???
They want the Liberals to admit that Quebec is a nation. Quebec is not nation, take it from me, a Quebecer, Quebec is a province.
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Nonono! Let's Keep Quebec!
Just take the separatists...
Now that is the way it ought to be.
Quebec isn't so bad. As long as you take the damn separatists out of it.
We got Hydro, which the late Robert Bourassa, a non separatist, developed.
The only thing the PQ developed is debt and Quebec wanting to be a nation. What kind of joke is that ???
They want the Liberals to admit that Quebec is a nation. Quebec is not nation, take it from me, a Quebecer, Quebec is a province.
I have always loved Quebec. I have always loved 'The Frenchies' as I called them.
Just the damned separatists. Same with Alberta! No province is superior to any other province or to the country! No province should leave! If you don't like our house, your not taking a room with you when your leaving!
I think it's sick that the Liberals think Quebec is a nation. No. Bad. Bad Liberals.
Oh, and about the Nanaimo Bay thing...
Send the Anti-Troops there too. And maybe the people who did those Anti-Canadian Ads in the US.
dubyah @ Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:10 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
As I've said before, no matter how bad you guys kicked our ass in 1812 we're still not taking Quebec so don't even THINK about it!

I must misunderagree with my fellow American, Bart Simpson. The United States will gratefully accept Queerbec into the Union. All of the frenchmen will be exterminated and the remaining anglos and what have you will make a fantastic 51st state. Queerbec cannot be used by Al Qaeda as a stepping stone to make entryway into the Yoo Ess. It is imperative, uh, to the Union, uh, that Queerbec become the 51st state.
Thank you, and God bless.
Dubyah.
dubyah dubyah:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
As I've said before, no matter how bad you guys kicked our ass in 1812 we're still not taking Quebec so don't even THINK about it!

The United States will gratefully accept Queerbec into the Union. All of the frenchmen will be exterminated ..... Queerbec
Dubyah.
What a great comment !!
This only show how intellectual you are.
It shows a lot of ignorance on your part. I am not even going to comment on the fact that you are American. Only you exist in this world. You guys think you are God`s gift to this world.
Dream on !!!!!!!!!
fuck you mr. Canada. I live on Van island. :p thing is, We would no longer have a western port if we killed vancouver island, as i am sure quebecers wouldn't allow freighters around the island to access vancouver.
Elvis @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:31 pm
Poor Pimp Québecer form a nation and the earth is round BTW.
$1:
They want the Liberals to admit that Quebec is a nation. Quebec is not nation, take it from me, a Quebecer, Quebec is a province.
But don't learn it from me but from the most brilliant federalist of our time who is Benoit Pelletier.
$1:
Le premier ministre Stephen Harper a beau ne pas reconnaître l'existence de la nation québécoise, il n'en demeure pas moins qu'il s'agit d'un état de fait, a insisté M. Pelletier.
Bien loin d'être un «caprice», la reconnaissance de la spécificité du Québec «est nécessaire car la constitution d'un pays est un miroir, et il est impérieux que, dans ce miroir, dans la constitution, les Québécois se reconnaissent», a-t-il dit.
lien
I could care less if Canadian finally get there head out of there ass long enought to see the reallity that is obvious to all. But I'm not surprise at all to see how hard it is to reconize in other something they lack themself.
After all without the maple leaf on the Canadian flag Canadian are no different than water down american.
DerbyX @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:43 pm
Elvis Elvis:
Poor Pimp Québecer form a nation and the earth is round BTW.
$1:
They want the Liberals to admit that Quebec is a nation. Quebec is not nation, take it from me, a Quebecer, Quebec is a province.
But don't learn it from me but from the most brilliant federalist of our time who is Benoit Pelletier.
$1:
Le premier ministre Stephen Harper a beau ne pas reconnaître l'existence de la nation québécoise, il n'en demeure pas moins qu'il s'agit d'un état de fait, a insisté M. Pelletier.
Bien loin d'être un «caprice», la reconnaissance de la spécificité du Québec «est nécessaire car la constitution d'un pays est un miroir, et il est impérieux que, dans ce miroir, dans la constitution, les Québécois se reconnaissent», a-t-il dit.
lienI could care less if Canadian finally get there head out of there ass long enought to see the reallity that is obvious to all. But I'm not surprise at all to see how hard it is to reconize in other something they lack themself.
After all without the maple leaf on the Canadian flag Canadian are no different than water down american.
It must really
realllllllly suck that the cowardly country you seperatists model yourselves after actually rejected your ancestors in favour of better people.
Imagine that. France rejected your sorry asses when they lost (yet again) to the english in favour of rich carribean goodness.
Yet you blame us for your problems when all the Brits did is allow a country to be born of both french and english culture.
If you don't like the terms of the agreement then I will personally buy your ticket back to france, assuming they will have you.
Should you seperatist scum try anything we will absolutely remind you that land granted after france
abandoned you is ours by default as is any Native land that wants to stay with us.
Then we will keep all the land inhabited by loyal Canadians.
I figure when we factor that in you sep-e-rats will have enough land for several golf courses to cater to the US who will be your only source of income.
How the fuck do you face yourself in the mirror knowing you are nothing less then a traitor who was rejected by the very people your culture aspires to be?
Elvis Elvis:
Poor Pimp Québecer form a nation and the earth is round BTW.
$1:
They want the Liberals to admit that Quebec is a nation. Quebec is not nation, take it from me, a Quebecer, Quebec is a province.
But don't learn it from me but from the most brilliant federalist of our time who is Benoit Pelletier.
$1:
Le premier ministre Stephen Harper a beau ne pas reconnaître l'existence de la nation québécoise, il n'en demeure pas moins qu'il s'agit d'un état de fait, a insisté M. Pelletier.
Bien loin d'être un «caprice», la reconnaissance de la spécificité du Québec «est nécessaire car la constitution d'un pays est un miroir, et il est impérieux que, dans ce miroir, dans la constitution, les Québécois se reconnaissent», a-t-il dit.
lienI could care less if Canadian finally get there head out of there ass long enought to see the reallity that is obvious to all. But I'm not surprise at all to see how hard it is to reconize in other something they lack themself.
After all without the maple leaf on the Canadian flag Canadian are no different than water down american.
Ostie de tabarnak!
Of course Elvis you had to comment.
Whether you like it or not, Quebec is a province within the nation (country) of Canada.
What is it that you dont get dude.