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Sorry, I didn't quite catch your meaning.

   

Oops that should've been

We might argue but you can't ignore the majority decision

   

Ah, very true indeed.

   

I didn't dispute Massey being the first Canadian born GG. I did however disagree with your statement that it was traditional prior to the latest CBC GG to have foreign born GG's. They were British prior to Massey. They were not classed as foreign in Canada until 1947. Canadians were British citizens until 1947. That was my point. I have no axe to grind personally with you. Try reading Will Kymlica and his views on multicult and the sidelining of the Brits and their descendants in Canada.

I hardly think it's an even playing field for Brits coming here. Otherwise many more would come. I personally know of plenty who would come if they could. It's much easier to get here as a refugee. When I came here 11 years ago Canada wouldn't accept my educational qualifications or experience. The UK is hardly a third world country and Brits were accepted for 3 centuries prior to PET. We even speak the language (well kind of) but officialdom in Canada is geared towards, at least appears to be, "non-traditional' sources of immigration. Most Brits used to look at Canada as a place to emigrate to but hey, they are not wanted any more. Just check out statscan figures. They speak for themselves.

   

I say this to Democrats in the USA all the time.

"Losers don't write legislation."
- Wille Brown, former Speaker of the California State Assembly in 1989.

   

Thats the third time you stated that in those exact words, methinks your trying to get something across but not being very successful. Canadians were British citizens before 1947? Really? Interesting because Canada was a separate country on July 1, 1867 which is why we celebrate....Canada day. As well, your saying Canada doesn't have a history before 1947 and it was all British? Canada had no say in its own affairs before 1947 because we were all British citizens? Your telling me that Canada had no choice to enter WWI and II because we were British citizens? What about the Balfour Declaration in 1926? How about the Statute of Westminster in 1931? Please EyeBrock, history in Canada is simply not tought that here and calling my grandparents who were born here before 1947 "British Citizens" a tad insulting. Don't worry, im proud of my British heritage so don't get your knickers in a knot but first and foremost, Im proud of my "Canadian heritage". As for the Governor General, before 1947, THEY were all born in England right? They are British citizens.

   

Knee jerk my ass, this is the way I am everyday. 6 generations of my family have been here and built this country. So kiss my lily white UK ass.

   

too right hwacker!

   

People in Canada were British Subjects until 1947 when we got our own citizenship act.

   

EyeBrock, there's an irony to your position on multicult. You are obviously firmly opposed to it yet, IMHO, your own decidedly ethnocentric point of view makes you something of a poster boy for it!

   

Well, my knickers are knot free tman me ole’ matey! Your’s seem a bit twisted though!

I said it three times because IcedCap seemed to be having difficulty understanding my accent.

I’m well aware of Canadian history, 1867, the Statute of Westminster et al. I was simply stating a legal fact. Maybe I’ll put it slightly differently so as not to wear out my words.
Canadians travelling overseas up until 1st Jan 1947 had a British passport. They were de facto British citizens. They weren’t Brits but they were British citizens, they could work in the UK and any part of the then Empire. They were independent citizens within the Empire and Canada was officially independent and had “Dominion” status (Good old DOMINION day eh?)
Sorry to break it to you if your grandparents had applied for a passport pre 1947 it would have been a British passport.

Simple legal facts. Don’t put words into my mouth though old chap, I never said Canada didn’t have a history pre 1947, I merely said there was no such thing as Canadian citizenship until then. It’s a legal fact.

Oh and by the way, not all the GG’s pre Massey were from England. One was from India, another was Irish, another was born in Scotland and there was even one born in Florence (as in Italy). I think they were British citizens too!

Cheers!

   

Streaker, I'm for multicult if its an equal partner with French Canada, British/Irish Canada and Aboriginal Canada.

I think that Brit/Irish Canadians and Aboriginals have lost out to the advancement of multicult. We obviously had to change and multicult was a developmental backlash to Bi-culturism.

No one culture should be pre-eminent and its my view that multicult and "new Canadians" needs have been rammed down the rest of Canada's throats for long enough. Equality of cultures would be a start. Especially for the natives.

It's time you were all forced to watch Coronation Street.

   

Oh, I tried and tried and tried. I said, "CBC wants me to watch this for some reason," but I'd be damned if I could get through an entire episode... I've no British background as far as I can see, so I think I'm excused

   

Hmm your right EyeBrock, I admit I was wrong. I was not aware that Canadians were not citizens before 1947 by legality. I suppose at first glance at your statments it seemed like you were denying that Canadians even existed. But still, as for the GG, toss em out.

   

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