Caucasian Privilege
DangerMouse @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:44 pm
[font=Comic Sans MS]Hey! It's me your favourite poster!! 
I wanted to see if people are ignoring me or if I can generate a good discussion related to "White Privilege," especially in the justice system? Do people believe it exists and maybe a factor as to why people lose faith in the system! There are many examples: a teacher recently gets a "slap in the wrist" for child porn in BC...a drunk driver in lower mainland BC gets a fine for killing a kid while DUI...the Prince George judge case regarding prostitution a few years back....I'm sure there is more....but how do people feel about this? I do know that some caucasian people I've talked to about this say it's crap and even have gotten offended...comments? [/font]
hwacker @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:48 pm
What about all the black guys that get off on a weapons offence to kill in 3 months? Or all the people that have been "deported" that fined themselves back in Canada in 2 months?
canucker @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:55 pm
So all those cases above mentioned I assume are caucasian people? Are you trying to say that the law gives out harsher sentences to those who are not caucasion? And I'm assuming you're just relating this to Canadian law.
Freakinoldguy @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:04 pm
The perception that white people are let off easier than non whites is a misconception and recent events would bear that out. A prime example is one Mr. Zhang who got 11 months for running over, and killing a white doctor. Yet he has been paroled after serving just 4 months.
Now don't get me wrong. Not for one minute do I think if Mr Zhang had been white, he would have gotten anymore time. Especially now given the current lack of intenstinal fortitude being displayed by our courts.
The sad reality is that race doesn't play apart in sentencing and it can't, since there is no such thing as justice being meted out by our courts to either white or non white criminals.
Scrappy @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:30 pm
It's not about race but who can afford a good lawyer, if you have the cash to pay for one you will walk it you don't you will end up with a Crown Attorney who is green and over worked and under paid. So no it's not a race issue but a class issue. I'd hate to be poor and charged with a inditable offense.
karra @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:50 pm
You are entitled to the best defense you can afford.
It really is as simple as that. . . .
TheQuietKidd @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:51 pm
I recently had a friend who was in a "knife fight." He is white, the other guy was black. The only reason that my friend is being charged at all is because the guy (who pulled the [illegal] knife on my friend) was black.
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:09 pm
blockades.......what the hell would happen if asians, africans, or europeans pulled that shit?
Freakinoldguy @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:25 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
blockades.......what the hell would happen if asians, africans, or europeans pulled that shit?
In BC they'd eventually get arrested. The crown arrested two women for the Eagle Bluff highway project protest. The funny thing is one is a native Harriet Nahanee and the other a white Betty Krawczyk. So race isn't a factor in the courts decision here. Although I don't think they were arrested for protesting, they were actually arrested for defying a court order. Harriet Nahanee got extensive community service for her sentence while. Betty Krawczyk got 10 months in the slammer.
Now just think about it for a second. For the non violent act of defying a court order Betty Krawczyk got 1 month in jail less than a non white gentleman who was involved in a hit and run that caused a death, while her native accomplice got community service. So the whole thesis about white people being given preferential treatment doesn't stand up to well to close scrutiny.
There has to be a reason for the blockades being allowed to stand, with no interference from the Government or the law, so maybe dangermouse could tell us what is so sancrosant about the natives, especially in Ont and Que, that allows them to defy court orders and blockade at will, with zero ramifications?
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:31 pm
it's not just the blockades, it's the rampaging through neighbouring communities, vandalizing property, threatening people and assaulting people that went completely unpunished. yet did you notice how quickly the police supressed the citizens of caledonia when they organized a counter protest.
PJB @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:52 pm
Canada seeks passport exceptions for seniors, aboriginals
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 | 1:20 PM ET
The Canadian Press
Canadian seniors and registered aboriginals shouldn't have to produce passports when they cross the border by car or boat, Ottawa has told American officials.
An alternative plan for emergency workers and medical evacuation cases is also needed, Canada said in an official response last week to U.S. plans requiring passports next summer from people entering the country by car or boat.
Canada wants passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.Canada wants passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.
Canada objects to that deadline, saying it should be extended, and wants an explicit agreement that high-technology driver's licences could be used instead of passports.
Ottawa is also considering whether to devise a passport card like the one the United States is developing that would cost less but provide the same proof of identity and citizenship.
In June, U.S. officials issued a reprieve on passports from people entering at land and sea crossings until at least the summer of 2008. Canadian officials say it will be a scramble to cut confusion and reduce damage to trade and tourism before the deadline.
There have been long delays in getting passports on both sides of the border since the rules for air travellers were announced, forcing the United States to give its citizens a break until the end of September.
It will be worse for the land and sea border crossings, Canadian officials said, because they account for more than 85 per cent of all cross-border visits and less than 60 per cent of those who make the trip have passports now.
In 2006, there were nearly 160 million cross-border visits and $710 billion US in two-way trade.
The United States has already said it will allow minors to cross with a birth certificate. But Canada wants the passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.
The break should extend to family members of medical evacuation patients, Ottawa said. There have been cases where family members of evacuated patients weren't allowed to get on U.S.-bound planes because they didn't have a passport, Canadian officials said.
Now here is a perk that will never be available to Caucasians...
Wally_Sconce @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:54 pm
try counter blockading an indian blocade, and see who the people throw in jail.
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:57 pm
PJB PJB:
Canada seeks passport exceptions for seniors, aboriginals
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 | 1:20 PM ET
The Canadian Press
Canadian seniors and registered aboriginals shouldn't have to produce passports when they cross the border by car or boat, Ottawa has told American officials.
An alternative plan for emergency workers and medical evacuation cases is also needed, Canada said in an official response last week to U.S. plans requiring passports next summer from people entering the country by car or boat.
Canada wants passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.Canada wants passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.
Canada objects to that deadline, saying it should be extended, and wants an explicit agreement that high-technology driver's licences could be used instead of passports.
Ottawa is also considering whether to devise a passport card like the one the United States is developing that would cost less but provide the same proof of identity and citizenship.
In June, U.S. officials issued a reprieve on passports from people entering at land and sea crossings until at least the summer of 2008. Canadian officials say it will be a scramble to cut confusion and reduce damage to trade and tourism before the deadline.
There have been long delays in getting passports on both sides of the border since the rules for air travellers were announced, forcing the United States to give its citizens a break until the end of September.
It will be worse for the land and sea border crossings, Canadian officials said, because they account for more than 85 per cent of all cross-border visits and less than 60 per cent of those who make the trip have passports now.
In 2006, there were nearly 160 million cross-border visits and $710 billion US in two-way trade.
The United States has already said it will allow minors to cross with a birth certificate. But Canada wants the passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.
The break should extend to family members of medical evacuation patients, Ottawa said. There have been cases where family members of evacuated patients weren't allowed to get on U.S.-bound planes because they didn't have a passport, Canadian officials said.
Now here is a perk that will never be available to Caucasians...
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 | 1:20 PM ET
The Canadian Press
Canadian seniors and registered aboriginals shouldn't have to produce passports when they cross the border by car or boat, Ottawa has told American officials.
An alternative plan for emergency workers and medical evacuation cases is also needed, Canada said in an official response last week to U.S. plans requiring passports next summer from people entering the country by car or boat.
Canada wants passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.Canada wants passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.
Canada objects to that deadline, saying it should be extended, and wants an explicit agreement that high-technology driver's licences could be used instead of passports.
Ottawa is also considering whether to devise a passport card like the one the United States is developing that would cost less but provide the same proof of identity and citizenship.
In June, U.S. officials issued a reprieve on passports from people entering at land and sea crossings until at least the summer of 2008. Canadian officials say it will be a scramble to cut confusion and reduce damage to trade and tourism before the deadline.
There have been long delays in getting passports on both sides of the border since the rules for air travellers were announced, forcing the United States to give its citizens a break until the end of September.
It will be worse for the land and sea border crossings, Canadian officials said, because they account for more than 85 per cent of all cross-border visits and less than 60 per cent of those who make the trip have passports now.
In 2006, there were nearly 160 million cross-border visits and $710 billion US in two-way trade.
The United States has already said it will allow minors to cross with a birth certificate. But Canada wants the passport leniency to extend to seniors, aboriginals who have certificates of Indian status, people with a Canadian seafarer's identity document and emergency workers.
The break should extend to family members of medical evacuation patients, Ottawa said. There have been cases where family members of evacuated patients weren't allowed to get on U.S.-bound planes because they didn't have a passport, Canadian officials said.
Now here is a perk that will never be available to Caucasians...
the americans have every right to say 'go fuck yourselves!' we're entering their country.
TheBigGuy @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:11 pm
Are friends to the south have this need to feel safe and if it mean that we need some form of an ID card so what - If you got a problem with that then just don't go and stay home. As my dear old Dad liked to say to make his point "It's my house and I make the rules and if you can't live by them,then there;s the door and I'll help you pack'
Bodah @ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:14 pm
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
[font=Comic Sans MS]Hey! It's me your favourite poster!! I wanted to see if people are ignoring me or if I can generate a good discussion related to "White Privilege," especially in the justice system? Do people believe it exists and maybe a factor as to why people lose faith in the system! There are many examples: a teacher recently gets a "slap in the wrist" for child porn in BC...a drunk driver in lower mainland BC gets a fine for killing a kid while DUI...the Prince George judge case regarding prostitution a few years back....I'm sure there is more....but how do people feel about this? I do know that some caucasian people I've talked to about this say it's crap and even have gotten offended...comments? [/font]
I wanted to see if people are ignoring me or if I can generate a good discussion related to "White Privilege," especially in the justice system? Do people believe it exists and maybe a factor as to why people lose faith in the system! There are many examples: a teacher recently gets a "slap in the wrist" for child porn in BC...a drunk driver in lower mainland BC gets a fine for killing a kid while DUI...the Prince George judge case regarding prostitution a few years back....I'm sure there is more....but how do people feel about this? I do know that some caucasian people I've talked to about this say it's crap and even have gotten offended...comments? [/font]Yeah were ignoring you, since the cout system is fucked up in general and your making no sense, Everyone gets the same deal and if your not white or a female sometimes the criminal gets a better deal so stop hating the pale face !