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Yep, Yep , and 100% correct.

Canada is not what it once was; it's now a country of whiners and complainers. And national unity, what’s that. ?

The Liberals are the biggest wedge in most of this.

   

Dude,

First of all, you don't have to live with a PM who is like George W. If you had our PM, then you'd understand.

Labour unions have their purpose, they gave Australia the title of being the first nation on Earth to have minimum wage standards and a direct say in how Government should be run. And whilst they disrupt the hell out of most thing, I'm not against them at all - without them, you get what our Government is doing now to workers - raping them of their rights. The Federal Government here will try and pass legislation to remove worker rights e.g. paid maternity leave, paid holiday leave, sick leave, etc. Trust me, if PM John Howard gets his way, those benefits will all be gone. He's trying to replace them with Federal Government Australian Workplace Agreements - essentially contracts drawn up for organisations in Australia by the Federal Government. Talk about interference, this is interference of the worst kind.

Governments are always going to be in things we don't want them to be in. It's a fact of life - sorry mate, but deal with it. People in power don't want to lose it. Simple.

I'd rather a left-leaning than a right-leaning Government. Why? Because they at least attempt to care about people. Right-wing Governments, in Australia's experience, over and over again, have raped people of money and rights and resources.

At this point in time, I'd rather be where you are than in Australia with our Federal Government.

   

The irony

   

   

oh and We’re still proud that Bryan Adams is Canadian

Well that maybe, but he lives in England, like most people with enough money they get out fast.

They only love Canada when they don't have to live here. there's some irony for you.

   

Canadian entertainers and otehrs have always gone and lived abroad (and for that matter so do many Brits, Americans and Aussies). Just because some has-been singer lives in England hardly means the country's on the verge of collapse and decay.. now the fact that we might re-elect the Liberals that's a different matter

   

Why do you complain about Brian Adams and Canadian Idol? They have very little impact.

I dont even watch that show.

   

Girls Raised In The South? (thats an actual group around these parts)



That cuts like a knife... but it feels so right. It makes me want to run to you - Kindof like the Summer of 69. C'mon everybody! Please forgive me...But, I really want to know - have you ever really, really ever loved a woman? Remember that everything I do - I do it for you.

   

I have been living in Canada for nearly 3 years now. Yes, there are some aspects of living in this Province (Nova Scotia) and Nation that drive me nuts. There again, I lived in the UK for many years and some things there drove me totally bananas too. No country is perfect.

Apply the microscope to the USA or any European nation and even Oz and NZ and you will see all kinds of yukky stuff in that particular nation's socio-economic life; pathetic politicians, dumb ass-policies, stupid people, crime, poverty, poor sporting performances blah blah

That said and done - I am proud to be living in Canada and I think that it is a wonderful country. I am a blessed man living here. I am aware that there are many people who would love to leave their own nation and live and work in Canada. I love it here and so do my very fortunate family.

I respect your opinions about Canada, you make some valid points - but this is still a completely KICK ASS country and I love it to bits

   

to quote an American friend of mine -

If you dont like it - stop your bitching and get the hell out.

   

Who the fuck is Bryan Adams?

   

   

C'est quoi un maudit d' Celine Dion?

Aye... c'est quoi un austie de separatiste?

And wtf is italian poutine??

   

Partially a fair summary of Canada right now, but partially claptrap.

Good point.



"Any Government that is big enough to give you everything you want is also powerful enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson

However, I would argue that the government has an integral role in maintaining a country's economy. Furthermore, every business person is in favor of regulation -- it's how MUCH and what TYPE of regulation that is disputed.
And, finally, I fear the day we have no public health care in Canada. A partial privatization may be the solution to some key problems, but complete privatization is a recipe for disaster.



Diversity is the Canadian identity.



Well, the NDP actually campaigned on his behalf. They needed the credibility.



And what's one of the most popular TV shows in the U.S.? Trailer Park Boys? Who are some of the most popular musicians? Nickelback? Avril Lavigne? Simple Plan? I think you underestimate the prevalence of Canadian culture.



Who, exactly, shouldn't be protected?



You don't want to talk shit about Bryan Adams.



I agree. We don't take nearly enough time to remember the contributions of our veterans. Worse, in a swelling of some bizarre new-age uber-pacifist creed, some people actually criticize our veterans for taking part in such "pointless wars" as WWII. I guess Hitler was going to sort himself out.



It's called "sportsmanship" you might want to look it up in the dictionary.



Underequipped, underpaid, underappreciated. You're preaching to the choir.



Not all of us.



Yes, but not quite as well as you think.



Forgive me if I sound brash, but:
Are you fucking retarded?



Paul Martin must REALLY think Canadians are stupid. And obviously some are: they still support this government of thieves.



I'd hate to see a day when we don't have them... and I speak as a person who's had a union try to interfere with my right to work non-union.



What do the majority and dragons have in common? They're both mythical creatures that DON'T EXIST.



I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.



What about it? Queers?



Good point.



That's hardly fair. Godz is trying to bring forth legitimate discourse about the current state of our country. While I strongly disagree with a number of his points, I respect him for making the effort. We all as Canadians should appreciate this opportunity to evaluate ourselves and our country.

   

Unlike half my posts, I'll reply to all of this completely in English since I don't sense many French-speakers here and we're not talking about Québec seperatism. (Okay, I'm not going to get started on this, so please don't!)

<b>At the moment, I'm in Toronto, ONT so if anyone wants to point me and my female friend to anywhere good, shoot me a line</b>

Godz, you make some good points. However, a conservative federally-defined governmental division does not always work as well as a liberal federally-defined governmental division (Australia and the US have states, NZ and Canada have provinces, so I'll stick with this generic term), and vice versa. It doesn't matter necessarily what type of Government you have in, if they're incompetent, they're incompetent. Now, if you want to change your Government, <b>instead of whingeing go out there and vote</b>.

You guys don't have something called Tall Poppy Syndrome. Here in Oz, whenever someone goes well, they get barraged with venom and vile from the majority of the jealous denizens and citizens of Australia. I've never heard of a Canadian or even a Québécois talk in terms as badly as we have done in Australia.

Whilst I'm not vehemently against Bryan Adams, I don't hate him either. I don't know what you guys see <b>that</b> wrong with him.

Now, I'm really jealous of you Canadians. You have legalised gay marriage recognised in all provinces and territories - given time, of course - but, you are only the third country on Earth to do so. You will start a trend that will spread to Australia. As a gay man living with a Bush-like administration (you guys in North America never hear of the bad shit PM John Howard does) at his Federal Government level, I can tell you it's nothing but displeasure and horror. And as a gay man, I can tell you that if it is the only major piece of legislation this year, it's a damn <b>good piece of legislation</b>. It's nothing like the irresponsible voluntary student unionism policies, increase in university HECS fees (HECS is Aus. English speak for "Higher Education Contribution Scheme", essentially a way of uni students to pay their fees back through the tax system) and AWAs (eeww evil things - read my previous post).

I saw nothing really wrong with British Columbia when I was in Vancouver, minus the fact that they're experimenting with pedestrian crossing buttons which change the lights when it is pressed.

I found your customs weird though - every province and territory has slightly different regulations from the next one. You have no idea how much power your provinces and territories have compared to the states, territories or provinces of NZ and Australia. Ours don't control customs AT ALL, income tax AT ALL, federal infrastructure AT ALL, international relations AT ALL, refugee and permanent resident seekers AT ALL, we have absolutely NO SAY in where territorial and international borders are laid (the Feds could change it tomorrow and we'd all have to shut up and cry because we couldn't do a damn thing about it), and we can't suceed from the Commonwealth AT ALL, and we can't control legal ages and tobacco and alcohol limits AT ALL. (I wrote in another post how hard it is for a state or territory of Australia and I think indeed NZ to do so).

Part of me thinks Canada has the same problem that Australia does when it comes to politics: where do you divide the responsibilities between the State/Provincial and Federal Governments? And I know why Canadians have to be so patient and seem to "love" compromise - you have to deal with Québec ... ;-p Okay, only joking! No offence intended to the Québécois, virulent seperatist or not!

And on that note, how dare those <b>virulent</b> seperatists protest Jour du Canada / Canada Day in Montréal! That really got me mad ... and I couldn't believe what LysPatriote etc were saying on here actually did occur. *Punches wall*.

If you want to respect your veterans, ask an Aussie or a New Zealander how it's done! We have ANZAC day ... we love our national holidays in Australia, but it is a VERY solemn national holiday. Whatever we are doing, we stop for 1 minute at various intervals throughout the day and stand or close our eyes or pray in silence. It doesn't take much, but it hammers in the memory and respect for them. And we have fucking idiots who vandalise the ANZAC memorials - they, whether Australian citizen or not, should be firmly talked to and then deported.

GRRR!

   

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