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If that means What Would Alberta Do I agree. Hell, I'll get a custom WWGFPBD watch strap (Alberta men don't wear bracelets) for you and once you start living the philosophy I'll bet you start scoring with the ladies and the SSM issue won't be as important to you anymore.

   

Ooooh, so nice to meet you. I'm sure you'll be one of my favourites.



You are such a comedian. I love it...looooove it!! Keep the jokes flying man, sometimes it can get stiff in here.

   

Sorry but I believe in service before self. I also subscribe to the philosophy of you make your bed you lie in it. Both are absolutely anathematic to liberal thought and in direct confrontation with your philosophical statement. But fear not morals less one, soon you’ll be following each debate statement with “you’ve been schooled” or “I win” and other liberal qualifiers.



Stiff? I see then you've been reviewing your posts.

   

I'm not arguing for gay marriage - I just don't think there's any reason to disagree with it. I'm sick of hearing about gay people and their 'struggles', and if someone had have just quietly said "sure, here's you marriage", it wouldn't be a big deal, and people wouldn't have worked themselves into a frenzy over it.

Why do you care? I grew up dragging dairy ration out to the barn in the snow, and my woodworking earned my spending money in high school. I spent over a month framing houses for charity this summer. I'm also currently working in an industry research partnership with a local firm for my Masters in structural engineering.

I'm guessing you assume I'm some liberal nancy-boy because I don't pray to Jesus at bedtime or dispise homos, so I just thought I'd set the record straight.

Homosexuality isn't less real because it's not acknowledged legally.

Well, I'm against banning any religious material or forcing a religion to change its values, but that still doesn't give you the right to say someone must live a Christian life if they don't want to. I would fully support a church's decision to ban from their churches, or make rude comments about, gays.

I'm sure your intentions are honourable, but what you're advocating is social engineering. Frankly, it's none of your business how people live their lives, but anyone should be free to criticize whomever they wish.

I criticize and mock the hell out of religion, and religious should have the same right to pass judgement as they see fit. I realize that's not the case these days, but we should strive to encourage that freedom, instead of attacking someone else's in retaliation.

I'm sure talking to your children, or tell him to piss off, would suffice. I'd probably do both, were I in your position.

I won't pretend to understand the correlation between polygamy and homosexuality.

Do you feel a couple who cannot function in a relationship will raise better children? Some families function better seperated, as I have peers who were better off from their parents' seperation.

The status quo is constantly be redefined. I make my choices based on the values of me and my family, not society, and I would expect everyone is entitled to live the same way.

My lack of ethics? That speaks volumes of your knowledge of me or my family. On behalf of my grandfather, go fuck yourself.

How are freedoms destroying the family? Are you honestly saying that the only thing that held society together this long was the government? Is your family being destroyed by homos because the government isn't protecting you from them? Mine isn't.

Plenty of hetero marriages stem from practical considerations, and aren't questioned in the least.

   

Ah yes, I must be gay because I don't have anything against gay people.

I'm sure if you beat your son until he stops coming home from school wearing eyeliner, you can stop worrying about homos disrupting your family's values.

   

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Maybe I should take a page from ahanscomb's book and double tap centre mass the left wing flake preaching the joys of homosexual love to my school age children and who is trying to push them into a lifestyle he feels is justified through larger participation and which will likely result in their premature death.
I'm sure talking to your children, or tell him to piss off, would suffice. I'd probably do both, were I in your position.
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K, first of all I'm a she. Second I never forced anything on your children. Please show me where I am forcing people to force their childrem into homosexuality. This is beyond insane. I said I would encourage my own children to love whomever they wanted. Not coax or force. And no one needs to tell me to piss off because I never did this in the first place. I'd like to join blue nose in telling you to fuck off.

   

Here is where we disagree. I believe that it is one more nail in the coffin of the family which is the foundation of a society that even you must admit is suffering since the 60s and getting worse with each generation.



Because I am a hobbyist engineer and you can tell a lot about an actual engineer from whether he was city or country bred (as you are fully aware). Additionally, not to go all dbaker but since I am aware of your interest in aquaponics you may also find the refrigerator we are in the final stages of a 2 year development cycle to be of interest. PM and I'll brief you a little more.



Yes



Where exactly did I state that anyone must live a Christian life? This seems to be the only defence of the SSM supporters and is used regardless of the point put before them.



No, you are advocating the social engineering by changing the historical and traditional terms of marriage.



Agreed



According to ahanscomb, if it feels right to you do it. I'd much rather put a round into it/him/her then merely waggle my finger in protest.



Every type of paraphillia has a group who builds upon the successful advancements of the last as they each push their agenda. In a nutshell, you can't let two men marry and not two women and a man.



This is a rare exception but is held up as a great benefit to the children. Kids are still regarded as better off in a 2 parent household in almost all cases.



I've known many Maritimers over the years and what has always impressed me is their devotion to Canada, Family and God. To dismiss the threat that homosexuality plays against the family dishonours your ancestry. So on behalf of Canada and the Family you go fuck yourself.



We all need rules. When I advocated vigilantism people jumped all over me telling it was the governments job to defend me. There are many things in society which are attacking the family; drugs, paraphilliacs, no fault divorce, self-centred liberal parents etc. No one thing will destroy the family but playing liberal kerplunk through social reengineering is dangerous. Again, show me one country or nation to survive massive family reengineering.



Weak. You'll have to do better then that to justify threatening the foundation of our society.

   

I've been debating Blue Nose for years, sometimes we agree and sometimes we differ so he has at least earned the right. You on the other hand are just some wounded liberal newby all aghast that anyone would challenge her so kindly fuck off if you can't debate without resorting to that kind off bullshit.

Yeesh Doesn't it normally take liberals at least 50 posts before they get all sanctimoniously profane?

   

My son is an Albertan. You're thinking of some kid in Ontario or BC.

   

The ideal solution to this issue would be for government to not define the term "marriage" at all, and to simply give out civil union contracts to whichever couples whished to have them (heterosexual, and homosexual, couples alike).

That being said, the relatively few social conservatives in Canada didn't push for this compromise in Canada when it may have worked, and as such we have the reality in Canada that we have today.

It's best to put this issue to bed (no pun intended).

As a Christian, I can understand why some are uncomfortable with the reality as it is in Canada, but I don't see it changing, and it's best if we just move on as a country.

   

Maybe if you didn't insult me as if I was waving a pride flag, I'd take you up on that.

I'm not threatening anything, I'm just not defending your lame reasons for not liking gay people, and if gay people saying "I do" is the straw that threatens the very core of "your Canada", yours is a weak-ass Canada.

   

You need to structural engineer a tougher ego. You don't usually bruise so easily what's the problem this time round? Jealous you can't take out the skidoo yet or is reconciling biaxial bending with axial tension causing your bifurcation?



Making more shit up? I never said I didn't like gay people (but I’ve been pretty clear that I don’t approve of the lifestyle). What’s lame is this follows several unfounded accusations of yours that I am trying to ram some religion down peoples throat. I have stated repeatedly over the years that what two or two hundred consenting adults do in private from NDP meetings to the entire spectrum of paraphillia is their business. Once they bring their behaviour into main stream society then its mine.



With citizens like you ready to sell us out I guess it is. Hell, I shouldn't be surprised that the same people who encourage the Taliban to kill our soldiers through their war protests would gamble Canada for the sake of PC.

   

I find it irritating that you can't see the difference between advocating rights for a certain group of people, and advocating their lifestyle. I'm not being politically correct by not caring what someone else does with their life, and it's people like you that have brought gays into the limelight, not me.

Now, nobody will ever be happy:
- Gays will maintain the mentality that they need to keep pressure on society to gain more ground on whatever the next issue will be. Count on more parades, more aggressive campaigns, and more outrageous demands.
- Opponents will have the defensive mentality burnt in their minds, and everything will become further proof that the end of world is coming.
- People like me who are sick to death of seeing gay parades and hearing about same sex marriage have to put up with it.

I didn't say anything about your religion. Frankly, you can try to 'ram some religon down' anybody's throat for all I care, and I'd encourage it. This notion that someone isn't allowed to express an opinion based on religous belief is stupid, but they shouldn't dictate our laws whatsoever.

I know your argument is in regard to the sanctity of our social structure, but I don't marriage and gay people have enough clout combined to bring down western civilization. If I'm misguided to think that we have enough values as individuals to function without limits on freedoms as trivial as wedding rings and benefactors, so be it.

So now I'm a gay terrorist supporter because I don't oppose same sex marriage? Good to see you've still got a sense of humour.

   

I told you to f-off because you're not debating your putting words in my mouth and then saying you would like to "do more to [me] than merely waggle [your] finger..." (??). How is that debating. One shouldn't have to alter what the other is saying to win their debate. I never get pushed to this, but you seem like a bit of a nut-job. And debating with you is just a waste of time. I don't care if you agree with me but alteast give a good fight. Just because I stand for something that you obviously will oppose till your death doesn't mean you can paint me as some plague to the innocence of children. Even if you believe I am because of what I stand for don't rearange my words in order to justify your opinion. That shows your true colours and that is why I think you deserve no more than an f-you. In your opinion I'm whatever you want to believe. It's your right. But the way you are acting, you mine as well just start writing whatever you want and put my name on it. That's how you seem to be reading what I am writing. Maybe you just can't read. In that case, I can't really blame you. And P.S. I have the right to tell you to f-off the same way you have the right to bash the lifestyles of homos and their rights. Welcome to the free world farm boy.

If you are just going to attack people rather than debate with sense, why would you expect anything more than an f-you. It wasn't because you oppose me, I enjoy that.



If you are so supportive of our troops you should stop bashing on city boys. Many of those city boys risk their lives and give their lives for the war on terror, including my husband. What do you think they all just come from Alberta farmland? Atleast show a little respect for the things you claim to support.

I'm done

   

Ahhh... I love grainfedprairieboy. He is the KING of Canadian Conservatives. I know that I can always count on him to kick commie ass with logic and facts.

GFPB, did you see how quickly they accepted polygamy earlier on the thread?



W.

   

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