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This story made CNN-International.

   

You being sarcastic SJ or do you have a feva and you gotta have more cow bell ? because no offense but this is kooky-talk man.

I applaud the people of Herouxville for putting this in print.

   

I think the rules in Herouxville are interesting, and here is how I stand in relation to them.

a. Don't come in if you plan on stoning a woman to death.
Me: Agreed.

b. Don't come in if you plan sending your kids to school with a kirpan.
Me: A kirpan is a dagger worn for religious reasons by Sikhs, but it is a weapon all the same and capable of killing. I agree that children should not carry such weapons.

c. Don't come in if you plan on covering your face other than on Halloween.
Me: Agreed.

d. Don't come in if you plan to burn women with acid.
Me: Agreed.

e. Don't come in if you plan to prevent your children from swimming because children can only swim in a pool with other children - boys and girls alike because they can't be segregated.
Me: Agreed.

f. Don't come in if you will not allow your women to drive, dance and make decisions on their own.
Me: Agreed.

g. Don't come in if you want Men banned from prenatal classes.
Me: Yawn. I'm more worried about how to avoid paternity.

h. Don't come in if you expect female officers to defer to male colleagues when dealing with men from certain religions.
Me: Agreed.

g. Don't come in if you prefer Christmas trees removed from a courthouse so as not to offend non-Christians.
Me: Disagree. Christmas trees have no place in courthouses, unless they are exhibits.

h. Don't come in if you plan to stop your children from singing Christmas songs at Christmas.
Me: Disagree, especially if the kids are bad singers.

Conclusion:
Mostly, I agree with the town. I also think it is stupid of SJ-24 to call this racist, since it is anti-sexist stuff not racist. SJ-24 is objecting blindly and stupidly at the behest of B'nai Brith.

Further, I think B'nai Brith and the Muslims are united on this for once, because if you rank religions in terms of sexist attiudes, the first are muslims then the next are probably Jews!

   

Nope Iggy, regarding sexism first Islam then Somalian Tribal system and then the Hindu and lastly the Jews. What is the B'nai Brith?

   

I don't see how you interpretted the reference in the article - that children sing Christmas carols at Christmas in Herouxville - to mean that they are forced to do so.

It would be interesting/useful to read the actual document, if we're going to address individual points in this way.

   

Read my answer again, Blue_Nose, I wrote:

So what I am saying is that I disagree with the town objecting to parents who do not wish their children to sing Christmas songs, and I support the right of parents to decide which religious songs their children can sing.

   

B'nai Brith is the jewish organisation which joined the muslims in criticising the town.

Neither the Hindus, nor the Somalian Tribal system joined the muslims in criticising the town, but the Jews did!

   

I think the declaration moreso wanted to clarify that parents/children should not be offended when Christmas songs are sung. Again, I doubt it was the intent to suggest parents would be pressured to have their children participate if they didn't so desire.

   

I would still object. It means that schools would organise and arrange for children to sing christmas songs, which are specific to Christians. I would equally object to jewish or muslim hymns and songs being sung.

Schools must be secular.

   

If it said, "Children in Herouxville sing Christmas songs in school," then you'd have a point. You've invented the 'in school' part, however.

Again, you'd have to examine the actual context in which the declaration addressed it.

   

I grew up singing christmas carols in school. Guess what, no harm done. On the same token people should be able to exempt their children from doing it if they choose. We had a girl in class who was East Indian, and every morning she would leave while the Lord's Prayer was said. Other than that she was like every other kid in that class.

   

This is getting a bit drawn out, Blue_Nose. How exactly do you interpret it?

You tell us, and I will tell you if I object or not.

   

Other than acknowledging the simple fact that 'children sing Christmas songs at Christmas', nothing - I don't read anything more into it without reading the actual source, which is the whole point I was making in the first place - picking it apart without the original source is pointless.

   

Just stirring the shit up a bit. i like to read what moronic crap comes out of Always4fools' mind. I like to see how many ways he can make it the fault of the Conservatives for whatever may be bothering him....And Avro of course has to come across as the know it all Liberal who could run this country singlehandedly.

Anyway, it's been an interesting read thus far. I think this town actually has the right to put in place whatever rules it wants. I know I could think of a few immigration requirements that might help out. I am far from not wanting immigrants. I just want them to be Canadian, not where they came from. If they don't agree, why did they come here in the first place?

   

It is equally possible that you are going out of your way to read too little. Schools in Quebec are usually run by the Catholic Church and include a lot of religious stuff.

Anyway I do not wish to find out what it really meant. Either way it was a minor point, included by me more as a joke about children singing badly sometimes.

   

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