Canada Kicks Ass
New Gov Gen a.....separatist?

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Proculation @ Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:34 pm

Well i'm registered with the ADQ here in quebec (the third most popular party) and in 1995 they were for the YES.
Now they changed ideas and now they are for a more independant government but not for the separation.

They are for a strong quebec, less controlled by the federal but still part of canada.

It quite fits my position.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:37 pm

Will making a die hard separatist a cabinet minister suddenly make him loyal to Canada and the idea of Confederation?

   



Proculation @ Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:40 pm

Lets not forget Jean Lapierre was in the group who founded the Bloc.

People makes mistakes.


However... there's the $$ :roll:

   



ShepherdsDog @ Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:20 pm

Proculation Proculation:
Well i'm registered with the ADQ here in quebec (the third most popular party) and in 1995 they were for the YES.
Now they changed ideas and now they are for a more independant government but not for the separation.

They are for a strong quebec, less controlled by the federal but still part of canada.

It quite fits my position.


There are a lot of people all over Canada who are patriots, but would like to see a less controlling federal government. However, the article mentions that Ms. Jean's husband was cozy with former FLQ terrorists. The Governor General should be a person above reproach and these allegations raise serious questions about her being suitable for the position of Governor General. Martin needs to reconsider her nomination. Mulroney couldn't woo the separatists with Bouchard, why does Martin think he can do it with Jean? While Adrienne Clarkson was foreign born, like Jean, she became a patriotic Canadian. However, in Jean's case(if the allegations prove true) she and her family were rescued from a brutal dictatorship by Canada and the way she repays Canada is by joining forces, seeking to destroy Canada. Oh yeah, that's someone I want representing Canada. There must be someone else at the CBC better suited for the job. How about Rick Mercer? There are just too many questions about who Jean is loyal to and we can't have that in a Governor General.

   



Cmmd1 @ Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:50 pm

Proculation Proculation:
Well i'm registered with the ADQ here in quebec (the third most popular party) and in 1995 they were for the YES.
Now they changed ideas and now they are for a more independant government but not for the separation.

They are for a strong quebec, less controlled by the federal but still part of canada.

It quite fits my position.


Je crois que Mario Dumont croit encore à la séparation, mais il veut qu'on soit fort avant ( pas de dettes ). Comme l'Alberta. Pis je crois que la défaite du Oui, lui a fait vraiment mal. Fak quand le Québec va être fort, je suis suuuurrrrr qu'il va être pour le oui.


I think that Mario Dumont ( the ADQ leader ) belive in separation again, but he want Quebec to be strong before ( no debt ). Like Alberta. And I think that the defeat of 1995 of the "Oui", hurt him hard. So when Quebec will be strong, im suuuuuuuuure that he will be for yes !

Aille jsuis bilingue tabarnak lol

   



Drunk Canuck @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:59 am

Her sepratist position should be enough to give her the boot. Her husband being a terrorist sympathizer should be the nail in the coffin.

My god this country gets more and more disgusting by the day.

   



The Hoser @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:26 am

Rick Mercer for Governer General! Put the funny back in Govner General! Did I misspell that?

   



Proculation @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:23 am

It seems Quebecers don't really care.
That's an internet poll from Canoe.qc.ca:

11 août 2005
Un souverainiste a-t-il sa place dans la maison de la gouverneure générale?

Oui
52%

Non
48%

:roll:

   



Proculation @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:27 am

In the news, some think that's a separatists strategy. To tell that Jean's husband is a separatist to anger the rest of canada. Then the Quebecers will be upset to see such "hatred" toward them and turn the question to a racist and oppression conclusion. Thus, it will power up the separatist movement.

   



DerbyX @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:09 pm

$1:
In the news, some think that's a separatists strategy. To tell that Jean's husband is a separatist to anger the rest of canada. Then the Quebecers will be upset to see such "hatred" toward them and turn the question to a racist and oppression conclusion. Thus, it will power up the separatist movement.


It does seem that they use that tactic quite a bit eh? Deliberately stir up hate the tell Quebeckers how the ROC hates Quebec. An old tactic.

   



Proculation @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:12 pm

DerbyX DerbyX:
$1:
In the news, some think that's a separatists strategy. To tell that Jean's husband is a separatist to anger the rest of canada. Then the Quebecers will be upset to see such "hatred" toward them and turn the question to a racist and oppression conclusion. Thus, it will power up the separatist movement.


It does seem that they use that tactic quite a bit eh? Deliberately stir up hate the tell Quebeckers how the ROC hates Quebec. An old tactic.


And it seems to work. Look at all the separatists who come here. They all think Canada oppresses and hates Québécois.

   



DerbyX @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:17 pm

I know. Thats why I make an effort to distiguish separatists from Quebeckers. Hate can be a very easy thing to stir up. Its interesting that the only member of my family (uncle) who is a separatists works in media broadcasting and "developed" his opinions based on biased media reports and this is despite the fact that all of us tell him that the media he's listening to is extremely one-sided on that issue. C'est la vie.

   



Proculation @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:28 pm

I'm listening to a radio interview and the guests are Jacques Lanctôt, presented as a book publisher while he's best known for being in the terrorist cell who kidnapped James Cross in 1970. The other is Gilles Rhéaume, the leader of the "Quebec League against the canadian propaganda and the politic corruption".

These are the two who went to the media with that to stir the hating.

Very ironic. It's like Yves Michaud, a "hard" separatist, who is leading another group with "against propaganda" in the title. You should listen to him. He's one the most propagandist i've seen. They know how to use their intelligence to brainwash people and make them believe things that are just not true. People see the "Quebec League against the canadian propaganda" and tell to themselve "It must be true ! They are denouncing Canadian propanganda!".
:roll:

   



DerbyX @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:42 pm

Very sad and very difficult to combat. The same situation appears in the west. The hard core groups out there label "the east" as little more then thieves who are deliberately screwing the west and decry the "favourtism" that the feds have for the east but ignore the fact that Quebec is a founding member of Canada and deserves respect on that basis. They claim Quebec controls (and ON) Ottawa and the Quebec separatists say the opposite. Both claim our media is biased but any research would show that if anything the exact opposite is true. Both view separation as the establishment of some utopian society where the gov't all listens to the peoples every wish, taxes are low and services are high. If it weren't so tragic it would be laughable.

I can only imagine what was said in the radio interview you talked about. Is there a link to transcrips?

   



Proculation @ Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:44 pm

Unfortunetaly no.

But if you understand french, it's not quebecois french it's quite easy to understand.

http://www.985fm.ca/emission_arcand.php

That link: 05-08-12 Lanctot et Rhéaume - Michael Jean

   



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