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I understand you cowering in shock and awe of the events but let us disect your summary of my points.

1. France wanted its North American Colonies back, so it made an ultra-secret (now lost) agreement with the U.S. to get them back in return for military aid against the Britain.

Hah? What part of 2000 million livres France paid out in support. What part of France physically fighting the final battle for the Americans before they were a country did you not observe?

2. Ontario is/was essentially Quebec

Once again have a look at the map (A government of Canada website to boot)

3. Lower Canada didn’t fight in the War of 1812

That is correct

4. The U.S. invaded Canada during the War of 1812 as a promise to the French monarch to honour its phantom Revolutionary War contract

No, but they could have been operating off of a good clean conscious to do the right thing. Maintain integrity, all values that seem to get lost in people. The appeal to the Supreme force of this world, in God we trust, etc , etc

5. The American Revolutionary War was the sole cause of the French Revolution

Yes, that cost was being passed onto the people. The revolutionary war bankrupted france

6. France was there to rescue the Canadiens during the Revolutionary War despite the fact that the U.S. invaded Quebec in 1775

Invaded Quebec to make good on the deal with France, to get the colony back. You honestly didn't think the British were going to hand the colony over did you?

7. 1.5 million people came to Canada as UELs

The number may be out of adjustement but nonetheless people fled to Canada.

8. English Canada represents 26% of the current population of Canada

Yes sir. I myself am 50% english, 50% french. I am with the other 50 % of canadians.

9. The stature of Liberty commemorates the Quebec Fact in North America

Indeed it does

10. The U.S. should invade Canada to regain Quebec for France

No, Quebec in its present form should continue on it course to separation. Unless an impass is realized and neutrality accepted on both sides. Any move by the Canadian people to marginalize or diminish the Francophones current state is enough to merit military action for said lands.


_747

   

i will ignore everything that you say 747 in this tread from now on and i incourage others to do so. you do have the right to say and believe what you wish, so i will not tell you to shut up, as much as i may want to. Of the allegations that you make about others, they all apply directly to you. I hope to see you in other threads.

   

No discourse on separtation is complete without pointing out that Britain has pulled its interest out of Canada. Naturally if Britain has relinquished interest in Canada, France would also have to relinquish any entitlement. This only leaves one direction. It is up to Quebec to mobilize the steps required to walk out of Canada in its present form. In all fairness the 1995 referendum should have been redone 51% to 49% was too close of a margin for that not to happen.

People of Quebec should not forget the Ad scandle. Somehow everyday Canadians linked every day Quebeckers to the actions of politicians and bureacrats. This of course is only the latest in a string of insults on the people of Quebec. Why take it?

If Canadians are serious about thwarting round two, then this 1982 constitution will have to be reopened and amended accordingly.

Rally the Quebec might, and move forward. Like an abusive relationship, albeit difficult, Get out... The force is truly with you.... .


_747

   

Dgthe3

The problem with 747 is his utter lack of genuine intentions. He tried – albeit poorly and unsuccessfully – to use history as a legitimacy tool for his moronic endeavours to push a wholly amateurish contemporary agenda. I countered each point and he simply couldn’t compete on that level – he simply reached the end of his meagre intellectual tether.

I offered a myriad of reputable sources that clearly disproved France’s intentions during the Revolutionary War (Perkins’ quote), that Lower Canada was a willing participant during the War of 1812 (Battle of Chateauguay), that there are numerous reasons for the French Revolution (Third Estate?), that 1.5 million UELs (it was really closer to 50-60,000) left the republican U.S. and that his favourite link (posted an nausea) is not geographically relevant in a historical context. His response? Run. He waffles, dodges and cowers from my direct challenges because HE CAN’T COMPETE with someone of my calibre. Look, for instance at his 02/24 post where he merely responds with his original erroneous supposition – no backup sources, no historical illustrations; just a pitiful, childish deflection. It reeks of desperation and is intellectually juvenile. He evidently doesn’t want discourse – he merely wants a forum.

To _747 aka mono-synaptic French monkey,

I won. I hammered you on every point and you NEVER countered with solid, verifiable, tangible evidence. It’s here for everyone to see – you’ve been broken and exposed as a charlatan that was called to task on his piss poor history and then “turtled” like a little wuss. Keep running, little monkey…I’ll be here to dismantle

   

i think that 747 as been smoking to much of quebec gold marihuanna

but i wonder why should quebec will return to france. there is to much diference betweene us

   

Mustang or Donkey whatever:

Anyone knows in a thesis or technical report you put forward your introduction or summary and put on the table. Get It.. Donkey! Have I done that?

Game. Set. Match. I win

Oh optimum, why shouldn't be apart of France? Good Question you are the same, but as indicated Britain relinquished all interest in Canada, so France would naturally have to do the same. Only the might of the people can determine the destiny.

If I were a present day Quebecker I would tighten my resolve and march towards round two.

_747

   

and was wondering if a Canadian could really say something so foolish seriously? P.Q. is Party Quebecois. It couldn't be in Ontario; duh.

   

The Statue of Liberty was a gift to the U.S. not Quebec you twit
http://www.americanparknetwork.com/park ... berty.html
Canadians fought in the war of 1812.
I live an hour away from a battle ground.

And you have done the nearly impossiable.You got people agreeing with each other that never agree on anything.........
We all agree your an idiot.
Enjoy that prize

   

Evidently you have absolutely no idea (big shock) about how one introduces an argument for historical discussion. Firstly, it’s a process, dummy. Secondly, you haven’t successfully met one established academic criteria (your “thesis” wouldn’t meet instructor or peer approval due to its flawed history) in your blatantly ignorant, unsophisticated and amateurish attempt at fostering a dialogue. I provided direct contradictory primary and secondary sources that you failed to counter – you are not very bright, but one could hope that you could at least recognize your erroneous suppositions. Oh well…one can dream.

Moreover, you can’t even devise your own retorts. You ape mine, you unoriginal piece of trash! Not only have you been schooled on the finer points of history (by me) but you can’t even must a coherent, original defence! What a joke! Hey, do one of you moronic Star Wars analogies – they are so imitating! No, really…I’m serious…please; it really is a great method of displaying your Voltaire-like wit. I bet it impresses your mom…well; even a mother’s unconditional love has taste.

Keep trying…I’ll be here to mash each and every one of your pathetic rebuttals. I rule – hey, it’s just like the British over the French in North American!

   

Dan74

This is the wrong thread you jackass! Go the to the other thread.

Mustang1 has found another donkey to add to his fold.



Duh figfarmer, Ontario was Quebec at one time!

http://www.canadiana.org/citm/imagepopu ... 774_e.html

So far, the thought of the PQ coming to old Quebec is being met with a cool reception. But hey, you know Ontario has received 50% of the immigrants in the last 15 years. Who are these immigrants loyal to? How has the Ontario government been treating these people all these years. Maybe the PQ has a Genuine shot

   

Donkey1 - Kanobe 1 - you are confused it is an American North American, Not a British North America! My message is on the table in Intro form, Summary form. Obviously, it would be time to substatiate this message, patience. But let's have a look at this map again (A government of Canada website) I know its a conspiracy, its fake in your feeble bleak dark thimble sized donkey brain. In anycase, Let's have a look

http://www.canadiana.org/citm/imagepopu ... 774_e.html

Yep, that's right that's is Ontario in there. Hey, wait what happen to the rest of the colony. Did the British lose it?

_747

   

No monkey! Bad Monkey! Look what you’ve gone and crapped over the forum again! And you just stepped in it too! Damn…for Pete’s sake toilet train yourself you half-witted animal. Do I have to do everything for you!

NOOO!!! Bad Monkey!! I never said “British” North American you uneducated dullard. What I did write was, “it’s just like the British over the French in North American!” Are you that illiterate? It was a HISTORICAL jest centred on the French having their assess handed to them by the British during the Seven Years’ War! YOU CAN’T READ!!! Holy Crap – you must get a nosebleed from just thinking about whether it’s time to shit or not. I’ll save this colossal screw up for my “_747 Rockin’ through stupidity” best hits compilation. You such a joke!

   

The only joke is a post whore that posts only, to garble. A donkey..

   

lol lets **try** and keep it civil

   

Keep it civil, or be gone... your choice

   

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