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Optinum @ Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:59 pm

bon godz tu me voix encore du mauvaise oeuille jpeux tout dire

quesque tu veux que je face contre le crtc, javoue que jaurais dut aller a quebec pis marcher pour liberter choix mais toi tu la tu fait? a part ca on est juste des civiles. je suis pas un bureaucrate, ni un socio crate ou liberal. jai aucun envi de vivre dans un quebec avec ufp autre parti de lextreme gauche. je suis ni annarchist( utopie) et communiste ( autre utopie).
sur que choi fm a droit detr dans les ondes de quebec parce que je sais que tout les medias sont consentré a montreal grace au grande multinationnal. normal que tout les humoriste son montreallais, la job est a montreal!! pis je sais que c a cause du manque daction de la part de nos 2 gouvernement qui favorise seulment la grosse ville de montreal. dire que ducepte stun fifi stun peu bas et tres fillion. Ci je veux que le quebec devienne un pays, et je sais que tu te fait du fun a mappeler separatiste, c pour donner un peu plus de fierter au monde. un quebec unie ca te tente pas? bon dire que longueuil stun trou est vrai mais tout comme quebec que stun gros village de tit gens qui va pas plus loin que leur fortification.
je suis nullment stalin qui a fait des million de moi. je suis plus republicain, et je suis totalment daccord que israel à le droit se defendre. je suporte meme pas pinochet(dictateur) qui lui a reussi a metre son pays dans lordre
en enlevant le droit de liberter de chacun des chilien. et oui tout comme toi je suis en exile. CI jeff me dit de me battre avec lui, je dirait non. mais ci la ville quebec mappele au quebecois detre unie pour gardez nos droit et notre liberter de quelque soit des villes davoir nos radio quon veux, je marche avec quebec

combien il a dartist... com les grosse star de television c de la marde....
star academi mitsou c a chier, veronique cloutier a chante pas lol... quoi que jaime vraiment plien de groupe quebecois car ils on du talent, mais c juste quon les voix pas a cause que les grand patront des television ne veulent pas en parler. they keep them in the dark.. et il vive comme des faucher, so en disant que le quebec fait juste des artiste poche ca fait juste de toi un inculte de ta patrie. mais je suis sure que tu est pas un fier franco.

un etatsunien a tu le droit detre fiere detre americain meme ci sont republicain democrate, vert ou liberal? probleme avec les quebecois ne veule pas sunir avec eu meme... quoi la preuve quon est une fausse couche..

il a bord ou je suis dans ce debat la.... 1ier bord, les reglent, jfaut ben respecter, ci tu veux etre si droit, il faut bien que tu respect ton gouvernement. meme ci le crtc serait quebecois de la ville de quebec, fillion a loccasion est un peu trop contreverser et doit quand meme respecter ca job dans les regles du bon sense.. c pour ca que jaime pas jeff. il a juste pas de bon sense enver le respect au gens, mais quesque jaime pas de lui, il use pas de son inteligent dans cest commentaire meme ci dans sa pense c le radioman le plus intiligent quil a pas, c le plus contre verser, les gens aime ca la contreverse.
2. montreal et autre ville. tout est centrer a montreal, on ne voit pas des bon evenement ailleure qua montreal, on dirais que tout ce passe a montreal. meme ci laval stun trou au civic avec casquette. les autre ville on droit davoir leur radio pour leur communoter....

mais jeff bon a pas appeler les quebcois a sunir et prefere envoyer chier les montreallais.. meme je sais quun montreallais appele pis envoy chier jeff. il fait pas la bonne choses de metre tout le monde dans le sac a cause tu vie a montreal......

mais bon c tout c que javais a dire.. tu va encore me traiter dhypocrite pis de ci pis de ca. pis chu mal, schtun cave qui voit tout petit.... mais tu voix que en soutenant le gouvernement etats unis, tu soutien aussi la misere des chilliens et ca jle prend pas. alors vien pas chier sur cest 2 derniere ligne.

   



Optinum @ Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:13 pm

rapalh

no language only, the language of comuniquation man!! i try to tell you its the communication that all is all about man!

a immigrant, speak arab at home, learn french because all in the road is french, so at home he speak arab and in the street he speak french...
so if a spanish arab and a quebec are togeter its gonna be french the communication language because all will know how to speak french...
i can accept de fact that some have trouble with a new language, but time will help....a latino may hable to speak french but will always remember its orignal culture and i not against that. black are becoming to make rap in french in montreal,

harmonium was the first wide-know in kequebec to sing in french...at the start of the quiete revolution, its was de start of the pround to be quebecer.
your right its my seft to preserve my culture and a french affaire, make kid is all about that...but leave the quebec as a french quebec is our right too..

stop yelling your right, why are you whining about your right.
what right do you want?

   



Ralph @ Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:35 pm

Why should I stop yelling about my rights?
Are they any less important than yours?

It would be nice If everyone that disagreed with the laws shut up and went away wouldn’t it.
But that never happens.

When has the French language been legislated against?

I will loudly agree with you that there were and might still be people that don’t except French as a fact on this continent.
I AM NOT ONE OF THEM!
Both my children are fluent in French and English as a matter of records my daughter teaches French in Vancouver.

But to pass laws that infringe on other people’s human rights is not the way to protect your language or culture.

What would help would for everyone in Quebec to be able to speak read and write in French and English.
This would eliminate the friction and the bullshit politics.

But NO! Force must be applied choices must be taken away rights must be stepped on.
And finally you start telling people to shut up and not to disagree.
When will you make agreeing a law?

   



Optinum @ Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:40 am

yes! but i dont know of the english side. but in 6th in primary we have a half years of total english after that. in high school english is learned of 5 years by 2 hours aeach week. word verb, year after year english is a obligation to learn. but event of that we have learned english(ok i know its not great and i got a my quebecer accent like every french), the youth generation 18- 25 is like 70-80% souvregnty or seperatist.

how to explain that? i dont know myselft....i just want the country in our dream to become real. and never see agains guy like jean charest taking power with lies. the negro-king theorie is true.. i dont think he here for the quebecer... hes here for the canada, but why quebec should be all canada? jean charest, jean chretien, paul martin, sthepane dion. all these `people are why i want to separate from ottawa power....the probleme is not canada, its the power of Ottawa. there was to much years that those liberal are in power...


When has the French language been legislated against?
hum the yeah i dont know but its was robert bourassa that been ligeslated the law bill 1 : no a single word of english in indoor and outdoor sight...
rene levesque ak modificate the laws to put some little english indoor sight!
has my seft, quebec should be stay offialy french but they could give gouvernement service in english. but i would dont like to live in a montreal in the years 1960....

And finally you start telling people to shut up and not to disagree.
When will you make agreeing a law?
that exacly what jean charest is doing!! did you know that the nationnal assembly is the only one parlement souvregneit(souverain) from all other parlement in canada except ottawa
, so our gouvernement is already separate from ottawa, but not the quebecer.
ottawa and quebec is the ennemie of quebecer and canadians...
they always use us like pitifull vote, to exploit with joice by the two side..
like renne levesque as said. only a separation from that should put a end to this circle circling politic of the negro king. but pq is in a bad shape today, he has forget to be a Good governement for every one. but they are obseded with separation.... when the time come with the separation its because a hero should come for US ALL.

   



Ralph @ Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:48 pm

Optinum Optinum:
yes! but i dont know of the english side. but in 6th in primary we have a half years of total english after that. in high school english is learned of 5 years by 2 hours aeach week. word verb, year after year english is a obligation to learn. but event of that we have learned english(ok i know its not great and i got a my quebecer accent like every french), the youth generation 18- 25 is like 70-80% souvregnty or seperatist.


how to explain that? i dont know myselft....i just want the country in our dream to become real. and never see agains guy like jean charest taking power with lies. the negro-king theorie is true.. i dont think he here for the quebecer... hes here for the canada, but why quebec should be all canada? jean charest, jean chretien, paul martin, sthepane dion. all these `people are why i want to separate from ottawa power....the probleme is not canada, its the power of Ottawa. there was to much years that those liberal are in power...


When has the French language been legislated against?
hum the yeah i dont know but its was robert bourassa that been ligeslated the law bill 1 : no a single word of english in indoor and outdoor sight...
rene levesque ak modificate the laws to put some little english indoor sight!
has my seft, quebec should be stay offialy french but they could give gouvernement service in english. but i would dont like to live in a montreal in the years 1960....

And finally you start telling people to shut up and not to disagree.
When will you make agreeing a law?
that exacly what jean charest is doing!! did you know that the nationnal assembly is the only one parlement souvregneit(souverain) from all other parlement in canada except ottawa
, so our gouvernement is already separate from ottawa, but not the quebecer.
ottawa and quebec is the ennemie of quebecer and canadians...
they always use us like pitifull vote, to exploit with joice by the two side..
like renne levesque as said. only a separation from that should put a end to this circle circling politic of the negro king. but pq is in a bad shape today, he has forget to be a Good governement for every one. but they are obseded with separation.... when the time come with the separation its because a hero should come for US ALL.


English children have French every day and now even in preschool.
We can’t pass the year without a passing French.
And I agree with that.
80 TO 90 percent of the English people living in Quebec can speak French at Least well enough to communicate but in most cases well enough to work.

As for your political views when you are 18 – 25 I know that you will find this hard to believe but they will change. So will your dreams and expectations.
Not all of them but many.

Remember Martin Charest Dion are all French Outbackers and just like ALL politicians they are with out morals.
It is the English that have been put down in Quebec Not Ottawa.
It IS THE English in Quebec that have their rights taken away from them not someone In Ottawa.
It is the English who NEVER have English representation in Quebec.
No one stands and says that the taking away of someone rights is a bad thing and should be outlawed, not as long as its only the minority.

You say you hate Ottawa I think you hate English.
Name the last two Priministers in Ottawa.
Both French Outbackers.
Now name a English leader in Quebec

   



Optinum @ Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:21 am

Keith Henderson, Leader of the equality party!

An equal, bilingual Quebec
Freedom of choice in schools
A patients' Bill of Rights
More doctors and nurses, fewer fonctionnaires!!!!!!!this is the best choice to make, why are we paying fo so much fonctionnaire, ah yes because pq as becaume for its 4 years in power becaume like neo liberal.
A child care allowance for all families
No language police,
no foreign bureaus, and no income tax department - the savings to health care
free of cost Cut back on VLT video gambling

i does fully agree with that in bold, as a language police, i wish it come inverse for the west land of montreal.
like english could be bigger and french little but french should be show.
but without language politic, we turning back in the years 60.

jeudi 04 novembre 2004
La ferveur souverainiste demeure plus forte chez les répondants âgés de 18 à 34 ans (53%) et de 35-54 ans (50%) que chez ceux de 55 ans et plus (38%).
you live in montreal so i sure you can endurstand those few word in french, but you want the complete news, just ask i will post all the word ( like 800word for the pool)

yeah what about moral, the pq is soon gonna dancing folklore if they not renew their mind.they sould be out of moral, that why in not in favor of the pq, dondt ask me to vote for the equality party or the liberal and never adq, as you see, meaby i will CHOOSE to not go voting in a provincial electoin. ah meaby for the green party i will meaby go for them.

i hate ottawa, i hate more french politician in ottawa. im not axing on the other province because i beleive if that we finally stoping to say: im blue your red, we are enemy, all could finally go foward with everybody. it is possible to make a state reprensenting in blue and red? i see the blue is not on the canada ( statut quo of quebec)

but at the last federal, i have the chance to electec maka kotto of the bq.
yolland thibeault got bad teeth!

   



_747 @ Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:35 pm

By ensuring all new immigrants attend French schools ensures that they will be able to function in Quebec in French. If this is not acceptable go back to where they came from, and watch out for the door slamming towards their ass. As for allowing everyone in Quebec a choice to be educated in French or English, where in Canada is that an option? This option does not exist. The Francophones made a deal with the British Empire for the language rights they have, like it or not. Any move against these rights is not only an attack on the French language, it is an attack on one's identity, the acadian identity. The fact that this is still being debated after 138 years of Canada's existence demonstrates that cat's and dogs can't be friends. Quebec is to be French and only French, case and point. If people can't accept that, it is time for Quebec to walk out of Canada. The French language laws merely enables those that chose to live and breathe French are enabled to do so. Any disruption to this, is deserving of the penalties inflicted. If these conditions of living in Quebec are unacceptable, chose another province. [flag]

   



JackD @ Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:55 pm

optinum;
I will remind your that Henderson resigned as the leader of this fringe party when he bit a resounding defeat as he failed to have one single candidate elected at the last election. Whatever he thinks or says does add or subtract a ripple on the river.
One day, you'll have to come to grip with some real hard facts optinum. Quebec is a mostly french society, which has kept its culture, language, vision and you would say, its stubbornness, since the brits came around. Your wishes won't happen in your lifetime. French is and will continue to be the predominant language of the provincial government, workplaces and bars and will continue to influence ottawa as a result of our being 25% of the weight we have as a province on federal affairs.
French from Quebec and the Quebec government will continu to fight hard with ottawa, just like it has done in the last 150 years.

   



_747 @ Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:01 pm

"preserve.... you dont endurstand that if there is no law 101, french language should drop very fast with the incoming immigrant that they would have no need to learn french.that why this laws is here.... if you want that...that to give dead to my culture, my souche then your are the devil and a friend of galganov. "

Galganov saw the light...

http://www.galganov.com/letters.asp?ID=61

"Since leaving Quebec, my thoughts have changed considerably about Canada's relationship with Quebec. I now believe that the only way for Canada to realize it's potential is to de-confederate and start anew without Quebec.

I sincerely believe that this will be the best solution for a problem that does not have to exist.

Best Regards . . . Howard Galganov"


Maybe Ralph will follow the light as well..

I love this galgonov's site, the overwhelming support for Quebec Sovereinty
is intoxicating. Another Article

http://www.galganov.com/letters.asp?ID=49

Why It Will Be Better For Canada Without Quebec

"And although minority and special interest groups have ruled it for much too long, it is time to retake the reins of Democracy and let the will of the majority be known. It is time for Canadians to open the door and politely but firmly invite Quebec to leave the Federation, without taking the furniture, the bank account or the credit card, and with the boundaries that we will choose."

Actually the boundaries of New France was Quebec (Lower Canada) and most of Ontario (Upper Canada). If the French are to be escorted out, should we not leave with what we came in with? The fact is, Ontario is as much Quebec as Quebec is!!! However, the Anglos have dominated and consumed Ontario. Quebec attempts to preserve what it has left, yet people are unhappy with that?

It must be reaffirmed the Francophones, or more accurately the acadians made a deal with the British Monarch for the language rights they have. Any move on the French language is also a move on the identity of one who is of Acadian descent. For those who want to retract this deal, under whose power and authority are retracting this deal under? Canada, How did Canada come to be exactly?

The Oxymorons Of Canada

http://www.galganov.com/letters.asp?ID=43

"As I've said repeatedly: It's time to de-Confederate. The sheer weight of Canadian contradictions will eventually force the collapse of our Canadian system that becomes more and more of a joke with every passing oxymoron."

747

   



Optinum @ Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:34 pm

_747 _747:
By ensuring all new immigrants attend French schools ensures that they will be able to function in Quebec in French. If this is not acceptable go back to where they came from, and watch out for the door slamming towards their ass. As for allowing everyone in Quebec a choice to be educated in French or English, where in Canada is that an option? This option does not exist. The Francophones made a deal with the British Empire for the language rights they have, like it or not. Any move against these rights is not only an attack on the French language, it is an attack on one's identity, the acadian identity. The fact that this is still being debated after 138 years of Canada's existence demonstrates that cat's and dogs can't be friends. Quebec is to be French and only French, case and point. If people can't accept that, it is time for Quebec to walk out of Canada. The French language laws merely enables those that chose to live and breathe French are enabled to do so. Any disruption to this, is deserving of the penalties inflicted. If these conditions of living in Quebec are unacceptable, chose another province. [flag]


your right(i wont fight you on your opinion) but that cat and dogs can t be friends is false
i does see here in chile cats and dogs live together, i mean i did never see a cat attacking a dog... wierd :roll: .
even a homeless dog can sleep in a modern market place freely.

   



Optinum @ Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:42 pm

btw i beleive that this post should die now... every thing as been said

   



_747 @ Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:46 pm

In my previous posts I refered to all of French origin as Acadiens. This is actually incorrect. It is more correct for me to say of Francophone origin or Anglophone Origin. Acadiens were French Settlers in Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, New Brunswick, and PEI that were rounded up by the Anglophones and sent off elsewhere. This was not unlike what hitler did with the Jews in WWII. Hitler was quite the historian, maybe this is where he got his inspiration. :)

Keeping all this in mind and reviewing the site of galganov.com it is clear where the nazis fled after world war II. Ah yes, Canada has always been a haven for such people. What kind of name is galganov anyway? :idea:

_747

   



_747 @ Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:31 pm

Hooray for the maritimes and Ontario

For the historically challenged, Acadia used to be PEI, Nova Scotia, and parts of Newfoundland. Until, as previously mentioned the Francophones were carted off elsewhere by the anglo nazis. Imagine the oil & gas revenues Quebec would have if they had that land still. What can be said about Ontario? Hey wasn't Ontario, Quebec at one time http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Cana ... _1774.html. Of course that is the past. Oh, I know, Quebec is the greatest province around (Sorry I mean Ontario), with the $23 billion in extra taxes it pays.

Hooray For Ontario and the maritimes in their wealth..

   



Streaker @ Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:17 pm

1- It wasn't Newfoundland, it was New Brunswick.

2- What we now call Ontario was never called Quebec, France considered it a part of "Nouvelle France" but never made any effort to settle it.

3- "What kind of name is Galganov anyway?" :roll:

4- Go back to school!

   



Mustang1 @ Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:08 pm

_747 _747:

For the historically challenged, Acadia used to be PEI, Nova Scotia, and parts of Newfoundland. Until, as previously mentioned the Francophones were carted off elsewhere by the anglo nazis.


Nice historical analogy, Herodotus!! The British’s expulsion of the Acadians (who were conquered subjects that refused to sign an oath of allegiance) is hardly comparable to the systematic genocide activities of National Socialism. Your argumentative fallacy aside, your bastardization of history through blatant use of inflammatory rhetoric clearly outlines the motives of a disingenuous simpleton whose historical revisionism reeks of a contemporary political agenda

Perhaps in the near future you could find some time to peruse a HISTORY book before you make any other ill-advised sojourns into academic discourse. And you are calling others, “historically challenged?” Hmm…projection?

   



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