Sea Level Falling at Canadian ports.
Tricks @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:14 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
scarecrowe scarecrowe:
Scientists studying ploar ice in Antarctica have demonstrated that the earth has not been this warm as it is today since 140,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution on 140,000 years ago that we are unaware of? Were there billions of humans on the planet at that time? Was open-air cooking over campfires the problem? Was hamburger consumption an issue then?
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
The earth was warmer just 1,000 years ago.
Nope:
Note that the 2004 temperature is almost half a degree higher than the highest estimate of the peak of the MWP.
Note also that this is the chart you said yesterday was a good one for historical temperatures.
sasquatch2 @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:53 pm
Give the Wiki-types a break after all much like the IPCC, they have finally admitted that the MWP did exist.....after denying it's existance totally while they played with their hockey stick until somebody broke it on them........
ridenrain @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:22 pm
"Obey! OBEY!"
PluggyRug @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:32 pm
I just took my boat out of the water..better put it back in
baylee @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:38 pm
This must be close to the 100th thread started on the same subject.
sasquatch2 @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:59 pm
Baylee/Segement/Ladybug
$1:
This must be close to the 100th thread started on the same subject.
Yep. And you still haven't a clue.
PluggyRug @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:03 pm
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Baylee/Segement/Ladybug
Yep. And you still haven't a clue.
$1:
This must be close to the 100th thread started on the same subject.
Yep. And you still haven't a clue.
He doesn't know what clue means.
hurley_108 @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:52 pm
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
scarecrowe scarecrowe:
Scientists studying ploar ice in Antarctica have demonstrated that the earth has not been this warm as it is today since 140,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution on 140,000 years ago that we are unaware of? Were there billions of humans on the planet at that time? Was open-air cooking over campfires the problem? Was hamburger consumption an issue then?
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
The earth was warmer just 1,000 years ago.
Nope:
Note that the 2004 temperature is almost half a degree higher than the highest estimate of the peak of the MWP.
Note also that this is the chart you said yesterday was a good one for historical temperatures.
Bart himself offered it as a good chart in this post:
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... 620#661620
Tricks @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:40 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
scarecrowe scarecrowe:
Scientists studying ploar ice in Antarctica have demonstrated that the earth has not been this warm as it is today since 140,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution on 140,000 years ago that we are unaware of? Were there billions of humans on the planet at that time? Was open-air cooking over campfires the problem? Was hamburger consumption an issue then?
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
The earth was warmer just 1,000 years ago.
Nope:
Note that the 2004 temperature is almost half a degree higher than the highest estimate of the peak of the MWP.
Note also that this is the chart you said yesterday was a good one for historical temperatures.
Bart himself offered it as a good chart in this post:
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... 620#661620
themasta @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:50 pm
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
scarecrowe scarecrowe:
Scientists studying ploar ice in Antarctica have demonstrated that the earth has not been this warm as it is today since 140,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution on 140,000 years ago that we are unaware of? Were there billions of humans on the planet at that time? Was open-air cooking over campfires the problem? Was hamburger consumption an issue then?
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
The earth was warmer just 1,000 years ago.
Nope:
Note that the 2004 temperature is almost half a degree higher than the highest estimate of the peak of the MWP.
Note also that this is the chart you said yesterday was a good one for historical temperatures.
Check and see if the Wiki source is already cited. Most articles have bibliographies now that are quite comprehensive.
Tricks @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:54 pm
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
scarecrowe scarecrowe:
Scientists studying ploar ice in Antarctica have demonstrated that the earth has not been this warm as it is today since 140,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution on 140,000 years ago that we are unaware of? Were there billions of humans on the planet at that time? Was open-air cooking over campfires the problem? Was hamburger consumption an issue then?
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
The earth was warmer just 1,000 years ago.
Nope:
Note that the 2004 temperature is almost half a degree higher than the highest estimate of the peak of the MWP.
Note also that this is the chart you said yesterday was a good one for historical temperatures.
Bart himself offered it as a good chart in this post:
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... 620#661620
Bruce_the_vii @ Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:47 pm
Wada Wada:
I'm not just sure how they take their measurements. Is it at all possible that Newfoundland is rising? 
Hi Wada
In fact it is possible. I don't have information on Newfoundland but the James Bay Area is rising dramatically because it is still recoiling from the glaciers of 10,000 years ago. I have seen pictures of a beach up there that rises a foot or so every year and as wave action piles up stones on the beach every summer the beach is a series of concentric ridges of stones, like the rings on a tree.
In addition the level of the Great Lakes is down and I read they think partly this is due to the land mass rising a few inches over the last couple of decades.
Bruce
Wullu @ Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:12 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Victoria and Vancouver both have relative sea level declining due to that BC is still recovering from the last ice age and the land is still rising in the absence of the weight of the ice sheets.
Same deal for all of Nova Scotia as well Bart.
Oh, biopiracy? Canadian Hydrographic Services are the folks that measure tidal variations.
hurley_108 @ Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:07 am
Tricks Tricks:
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
Tricks Tricks:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
scarecrowe scarecrowe:
Scientists studying ploar ice in Antarctica have demonstrated that the earth has not been this warm as it is today since 140,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution on 140,000 years ago that we are unaware of? Were there billions of humans on the planet at that time? Was open-air cooking over campfires the problem? Was hamburger consumption an issue then?
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
Hmmm, the wool being pulled over my eyes is getting ... itchy. Scratch that thought.
The earth was warmer just 1,000 years ago.
Nope:
Note that the 2004 temperature is almost half a degree higher than the highest estimate of the peak of the MWP.
Note also that this is the chart you said yesterday was a good one for historical temperatures.
Bart himself offered it as a good chart in this post:
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... 620#661620
Sorry for the confusion, I've been cross referencing posts a bit. Here's the chronology:
I put forward that chart on a 2000 year scale. Bart claims it's the "Hockey Stick." He's wrong on that as it clearly shows the MWP and little ice age.
A few days later, I challenge him to offer a good hart, and HE OFFERS THE SAME ONE HE DISCREDITED A FEW DAYS BEFORE!
Bart remains silent on his inconsistency.
I use it against him here and you jump on it on the basis that it's from wikipedia. Not because it's flawed, not because it's wrong, but because it's from wikipedia. Weak. Then you go on to sycophanically parrot Bart's incorrect dismissal.
It's a good chart. It simply shows something you don't want to admit is true, that at present, the earth is warmer than it has been in at least 2000 years, and warming up FAST.
baylee @ Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:44 am
hurley_108 hurley_108:
Bart remains silent on his inconsistency.
I use it against him here and you jump on it on the basis that it's from wikipedia. Not because it's flawed, not because it's wrong, but because it's from wikipedia. Weak. Then you go on to sycophanically parrot Bart's incorrect dismissal.
It's a good chart. It simply shows something you don't want to admit is true, that at present, the earth is warmer than it has been in at least 2000 years, and warming up FAST.
I use it against him here and you jump on it on the basis that it's from wikipedia. Not because it's flawed, not because it's wrong, but because it's from wikipedia. Weak. Then you go on to sycophanically parrot Bart's incorrect dismissal.
It's a good chart. It simply shows something you don't want to admit is true, that at present, the earth is warmer than it has been in at least 2000 years, and warming up FAST.
Excellent post hurley