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aquariusPEI @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:34 am

Godz46 Godz46:
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You may not notice it now..but believe me as they grow you'll begin to notice the bombings...I gurantee you!!!


Now THAT sounds like a threat of terroristic violence against Muslims.
My advice to you and your ilk spewing hate - put an elastic around your head and snap out of it.
This hate filled troll and his cheerleaders in this thread make me sick.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:42 am

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We once weren't. We once took care as to whom we allowed in this country and that's what made it the Mecca it is today for absolutely anyone and everyone - for that we will sooner, rather than later I fear, pay the piper.


This is the same kind of fear-mongering that my great-grandparents had to put up with because they were Ukranian and not protestant. Those prejudices were still common when my father was a young man and are still sometimes expressed by the unintelligent today.

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So what? So did others but you're not going after them - why not?


Sorry, he's been the only one trying to present an argument.

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I agree with a ban on Muslim immigration until this entire al Quida/Muslim fanaticism business has been resolved satisfactorily


What would that entail, Karra? All Muslims converting to Christianity? You've endorsed genocide in other threads, so we really do need to know exactly what you mean by "satisfactorily."

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until we can guarantee our right to exist in peace, protect, our beliefs, our rights our laws.


Are you saying we should ban foreign corporations outright and send Paul Cellucci home naked and bleeding, Ralph?

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It is a privilege to come and live here not a right.


And contrary to popular belief people do not just waltz into this country.

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There will be Bus Bombings and other terrorist actions in Canada if the current wave of muslim immigration keeps going up and the situation in the Muslim world stays they way it is. I suggest to stop letting Muslims in this country until things calm down...


Funny, when Timmy McVeigh blew up tha building in Oklahoma (second biggest terrorist attack in the US, biggest at the time), nobody was calling for a ban on white Christians coming to Canada. McVeigh was part of the US militia movement though...a group with ties to the farm crisis movement which is active in both the US and Canada. Militias also have close ties with the NRA, another group that has made regular forays into Canada, a group that promotes the ownership of weapons.

Funny how there is a bit of double standard when the bad guys turn out to be from a group identifiable as other than your own.

   



Ralph @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:39 am

First of all what I am saying is stop.
Fix the lose and dangerous system that we have.
Start checking properly.
Then you can start to reopen the doors to those that come here peacefully.
If you expect only the good Muslims to come here and live lives like good Canadians you’re sadly mistaken.
There is a war going on, we are part of that war.
If you can’t see that than God save us from people like you.
The area we are talking about is rift with terrorist and all they want is to gain entry to places like Canada.
From here they can raise money and wait to be called into action.
If you know of a better way to weed these people out of the crowed then please tell me I’ll pass the word along to the government.
But until we can separate the good from the bad I say don’t take chances with our children.
Stop the wide open door policy.
If I am wrong then what have I hurt somebody has to wait to get here a little longer.
If you are wrong what will happen?

   



Ralph @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:52 am

Rev_Blair
CKA Super Elite


This is the same kind of fear-mongering that my great-grandparents had to put up
This comming from you makes me laugh
You are exactly the Fear monger that you so eloquently refer to.
If I don’t agree with you what was the first thing out of your fear mongering mouth
Oh ya KKK. Then I continue to stand my ground I becamewas Hitler.
You see by bringing up these references you are if fact trying to cause fear.
It’s not working but you thought I would be afraid of what you thought of me and what you could make other thinkof me...FEAR MONGERING!
Learn to let others have their opinions and stop trying to make them feel bad about what they feelings, let people express themselves.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:44 pm

I haven't stopped you from expressing yourself one little bit, Ralph. What I have done is tell you that you are wrong. You are wrong to suggest that Muslims are violent, you are wrong to suggest that Muslims are a threat, you are wrong to suggest that terrorism comes from the teachings of Islam, you are wrong to discriminate on religious and/or racial grounds.

The KKK uses those those things as a basis for discrimination. Hitler used those things as a basis for discrimination. Now you are using those things as a basis for discrimination. You don't like that comparison though. Tough.

Canada has made this mistake before too...Japanese interment camps, Ukranian labour camps, Dukabor labour camps, the reserve system, residential schools. It turned out badly each and every time, people suffered and Canada lost a little bit of itself. Do you like those comparisons better?

   



Ralph @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:10 pm

You know nothing about my ethnic background and if you did you would look very foolish.
So let’s recap your entire well thought out arguments shall we.
I say lets stop thing and assess and then we can reopen the borders and move on.
You call me a KKK member and a Hitler follower.
Then you auld to me trying to beat some guy bloody and shipping his ass out of the country.
When have I even hinted at deporting anyone? NONow references to Japanese interment camps, Ukrainian labor camps, Dukabor labor camps, the reserve system, residential schools.
Where are you and your one celled mind coming up with this stuff?

you are wrong to suggest that Muslims are a threat

NJ City -- The Masjid Al-Salam, an unadorned storefront mosque on top of a Chinese takeout and a jewellery store, has a note tacked up inside with a stern warning: Those who do not belong to this Muslim community will be prosecuted for trespassing.
Leaving behind the gritty rows of Dollar Stores and pizzerias on Kennedy Boulevard, a main thoroughfare in this gateway to New Jersey, I nervously approach the entrance, a scarf pulled firmly over my head. I climb the mosque's stairs, passing by a U.S. flag taped to the second-storey window. It is Friday, the Muslim day of worship, and I am curious to hear the sermon of the imam, unedited for public sensibilities.
This mosque, after all, gave a platform to Omar Abdel-Rahman, the blind cleric believed to be the spiritual leader of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers, who is serving a life sentence for conspiring to blow up the United Nations building.
Two of the more than 1,000 people arrested in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks lived in an apartment building around the corner from the Mosque of Peace, and are said to have worshipped here.
Behind the closed door of the "sisters" room, the women, many of whom are from Egypt and Morocco, stand on prayer mats in a diagonal line facing Mecca. All but the youngest wear long cloaks and veils.
Over a loud-speaker, we hear Sheikh Mohammed, the mosque's Egyptian-born imam, call for a show of loyalty -- but not to the United States. He asks all those in the mosque to come to the aid of their brothers and sisters, oppressed Muslims around the world.
"What will happen to you on Judgment Day if you have not been a good Muslim?" the invisible presence thunders in Arabic. "What excuse will you give? The faces of liars will darken.
"Muslims are under attack in Chechnya, Palestine and Afghanistan," he continues, echoing the message of Osama bin Laden, who recently extended his list of Muslim

   



RoyalHighlander @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:35 pm

karra and Rev Blair.... both of you take 2 weeks off from here to kool down and unwind... Im giving you both the chance to do it vo0luntarily.. or... ill do it for you and it may last longer than a few weeks... I read this thread from the start, and Rev, you started with Ralph, for a non valid reasonm as I didnt see where he needed you to start name calling, because he had the nerve to disagree with you and post his own opinion.... karra you just lounge around throwing out shit some times for no good reason apart from trying to get under Revs skin... ENOUGH.... take it some where else for a 3while, as im tired of members complaing to the mods how you 2 seem to FUCK up otherwise easy going threads....Ill also send you each a PM so there is no mistaking my meaning....... (RH)

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:11 pm

I read from the start too, RH. It was full of of racist bullshit.

Ban me for two weeks if you want, but I have to make this clear right now...I'm not going to stop going after little cowards like Ralph. The amn is going after an entire religion based on the actions of a few, so is Godz, so is Karra.

You do what ever you feel you have to, Rest assured that I will do the same.

Blair

   



Moghrabi @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:50 pm

Hello everyone.

It is my first time in this forum and I noticed that we have some Canadian bigots on a large scale. How dare anyone suggest the banning of Muslims from entering Canada? Why every idiot in this forum is against Rev. Is it because he is being sensible and not a bigot?

Some people here are painting all Muslims with the same brush. Every religion has its bad and good. However, we have to look at the cause of the problem to see why are some Muslims are doing what they are doing. I know that what they are doing is wrong but it must have a valid reason in their head.

When the west tries to impose its values on Muslims, we can expect a backlash. The same will happen when the west tries to do the same with the Chinese. Do you think then that we have to not allow any Chinese from entering Canada?

When the west (Christian) supports an occupier (Jews) against the owner of the land (Muslims), you can expect a backlash.

When the wealth of the Middle East is exploited for the benefit of the few, and every American family has 3 cars to drive while the middle eastern people can't afford to go to school, you can expect a backlash.

When you attack a country (Iraq) without international approval and against the will of the people, you can expect a backlash. Why is the US hitting Afghanistan and Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11. The real terrorists (if 9/11 was not planned internally) are from Saudi Arabia, the most fundamentalist country in the world. Why is the US still sleeping with the Saudis while 17 of the hijackers are from Saudi Arabia. It is OIL.

When you add all of the above and the free hand Israel has on killing people in Palestine with no mercy, you can expect that some Muslims will rise against tyranny.

So instead of banning Muslims from entering Canada or any other country, we need to know the exact reason behind their attacks. Also not all Muslims are terrorists. The same goes to the Christian faith and the Jewish faith. No all Christians are like McVeigh and not all Jews are Zionists.


Open your mind and heart and try to understand why this is all happening. That is the only way we can live in peace.

   



Moghrabi @ Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:50 pm

Now you have read what I had to say, is there anyone wanting to attack me?

   



Andem @ Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:44 am

Well said moghrabi!

   



Ralph @ Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:23 pm


Quote by Rev.
The point is that, since al Qaeda declared war on the US and its allies and we are one of those allies, [color=red]we can expect some problems. There are repercussions for our decisions and actions. [/color
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If we take that as a given then should we not take stepd to defend our country.
Should the borders not be secured.

al Qaeda is a middle Eastern faction I did not make that happen.
All that was said is we should step back and brace ourselfs for these repercussions.
Its the Rev that had people being deported and brought hitler and the KKK into this question

   



Ralph @ Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:29 pm

When the west (Christian) supports an occupier (Jews) against the owner of the land (Muslims), you can expect a backlash.

Was that ALL christains?
I could do a Rev on that line and show you how he loves nothing more than twist things around.
But your point is taken and without equating you to Hitler or the KKK.

   



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