What's so great about diversity?
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
2) "Various authoritarians on the left". Quick - name them.
Off the top of our heads, right?
Bill Ayers
Frances Fox Pliven of Cloward/Piven Infamy.
Felicia Felarca and her co-leader of Bamn, what's-her-name.
The leaders of Black live Matter, Especially that hideous screeching cow who runs BLM Toronto.
I could do this all day, you know?
OK, one more group, and this is just for fun.
Suzuki, Bill Nye, the craziest Kennedy (I forget his first name) and Al Gore for preaching jail for anybody disagreeing with them.
Many, many, many more available upon request. Just ask.
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I didn’t ask for the names of private citizens whose opinions you happen personally diagree with. I asked for the names of supposed “authoritarians on the left” who are “abusing” the public. And you come up empty handed as usual
They are private citizens whose opinions I personally disagree with and leftist figures of influence with authoritarian viewpoints representing the authoritarianism embedded in the new "Progressive" left which many are now calling "regressive." And as always I knocked you flat on your ass.
herbie herbie:
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Why don't you give us the more truthier, truth from your side, oh wise one.
He's wise enough to know anyone believing in the word "truthier" is a fucking idiot not worth responding to?
Careful now...you're edging close to contradicting your Comrade Commander Beaver Fever and his personal idolatry of the late night (what they're calling) comedy of Stephen Colbert.
Stephen Colbert: Truthiness
However...
Fun as slapping Beave and herb about the ears might be the diversion is rude to the OP.
He asked a fair question.
"What's so good about diversity?"
He then offered up the pros and cons, plus and minuses to the equation.
Curiously enough I just watched a video that gave the final tally. Here it is:
Personally, I am in favor of diversity of thought though.
Unfortunately, that seems to get put to the side to facilitate diversity of cultural practices.
Those supporting that diversity seem to laud what they bring to the diversity table but that seems to be the priority, if not the exclusive.
Now me I prefer the idea of integration to the parent culture. I'll still listen to you though. Want me to change? Convince me you have something better.
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
They are private citizens whose opinions I personally disagree with and leftist figures of influence with authoritarian viewpoints representing the authoritarianism embedded in the new "Progressive" left which many are now calling "regressive." And as always I knocked you flat on your ass.
You are truly delusional if you think your batshit rants knock anyone anywhere. By your own account you creep out strangers in the supermarket by babbling to them about the sharia in the Campbells soup. I bet you think you knocked them ob their asses also. Such is the world of the delusional.
You think anyone who disagrees with you is “authoritarian” and if they even speak those ideas they’re “abusing” you. And that’s really all there is
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I asked for the names of supposed “authoritarians on the left” who are “abusing” the public.
How about Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Janet Reno?
In their perverse version of
Les Miserables they immolated seventy-six people because a $200 tax on firearms parts had not been paid to the ATF.
All this over a $200 tax...
How's that for authoritarian?
Or maybe we can look at Barack Obama who weaponized the IRS and used it to attack people who held opinions that the ratfuck bastard didn't like? People lost jobs, homes, and some even lost their liberties due to these banana republic style political persecutions.
Or what about the war on Free Speech by leftist academia? Universities that are almost wholly unaccountable for their actions are waging an unConstitutional pogrom against speech they don't like and they're encouraging groups like Antifa to act as their Brown Shirt goon squads to beat up and try to intimidate conservatives.
Need I go on?
I think the biggest argument for diversity is studying cultures where there is none. When human rights were not afforded to Africans, it enabled chattel slavery. When they were not afforded to indigenous peoples, it enabled confiscation of land and wholesale slaughter. When they were not afforded to Jews, it enabled the Holocaust. Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin. Where religious diversity is not allowed it leads to ISIS.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
I think the biggest argument for diversity is studying cultures where there is none. When human rights were not afforded to Africans, it enabled chattel slavery. When they were not afforded to indigenous peoples, it enabled confiscation of land and wholesale slaughter. When they were not afforded to Jews, it enabled the Holocaust. Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin. Where religious diversity is not allowed it leads to ISIS.
What about diversity of opinion and thought?
Isn't that a human right?
Tricks @ Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:05 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
I think the biggest argument for diversity is studying cultures where there is none. When human rights were not afforded to Africans, it enabled chattel slavery. When they were not afforded to indigenous peoples, it enabled confiscation of land and wholesale slaughter. When they were not afforded to Jews, it enabled the Holocaust. Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin. Where religious diversity is not allowed it leads to ISIS.
What about diversity of opinion and thought?
Isn't that a human right?
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Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin.
Tricks Tricks:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
I think the biggest argument for diversity is studying cultures where there is none. When human rights were not afforded to Africans, it enabled chattel slavery. When they were not afforded to indigenous peoples, it enabled confiscation of land and wholesale slaughter. When they were not afforded to Jews, it enabled the Holocaust. Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin. Where religious diversity is not allowed it leads to ISIS.
What about diversity of opinion and thought?
Isn't that a human right?
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Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin.
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Uh-huh.
I suppose I'm thinking about people who don't "believe" in man-made global warming.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I asked for the names of supposed “authoritarians on the left” who are “abusing” the public.
How about Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Janet Reno?
In their perverse version of
Les Miserables they immolated seventy-six people because a $200 tax on firearms parts had not been paid to the ATF.
All this over a $200 tax...
How's that for authoritarian?
You conveniently left out the part about it being a child-molesting doomday cult with a massive stockpile of weapons that fired on a local police officer responding to an escaped girls complaint about being taken as a child bride. And then when when the feds were called in for the weapons stockpile the cultists killed 4 ATF agents. But yeah tell yourself that $200 tax nonsense. Honestly where do you get your info.
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Or maybe we can look at Barack Obama who weaponized the IRS and used it to attack people who held opinions that the ratfuck bastard didn't like? People lost jobs, homes, and some even lost their liberties due to these banana republic style political persecutions.
Fake news. It was debunked here on CKA at the time. IRS was not and is not “weaponized”.
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Or what about the war on Free Speech by leftist academia? Universities that are almost wholly unaccountable for their actions are waging an unConstitutional pogrom against speech they don't like and they're encouraging groups like Antifa to act as their Brown Shirt goon squads to beat up and try to intimidate conservatives.
Funny you’re all for it when it’s one of those right wing christian schools like Bob Jones University which doesn’t even allow interracial dating or Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University. Universities have always been hotbeds of controversial thought , that’s kind of their purpose. But again I challenge you to demonstrate how you would even be directly affected by any university campus policy.
As I said on page 1 of this thread:.
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”Various authoritarians on the left". Quick - name them. Who? Some anonymous student protester idiot on youtube? Some professor from a Sun article whose name you can't remember? Tell us, who are these authoritarians who are apparently ruining your life? Have you personally been affected by any of it? Universities have always been incubators for radical ideas and student activists. I agree that a lot of it sounds ridiculous but these people will grow up eventually and settle down. At any rate, it doesn't affect you. Manhy of the people who froth over these university activist stories the most will end their long lives having never even set foot on a university campus . These stories just circulate in the right-wing media because they generate a lot of clicks. NOBODY outside of the universities are affected by them. Let the schools and the students worry about their own problems.
Tricks @ Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:41 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Uh-huh.
I suppose I'm thinking about people who don't "believe" in man-made global warming.
Ah, I assume you're talking about the comments made by Bill Nye. No, people shouldn't be jailed for having a differing opinion.
Although, I think his meaning was skewed. He said people who defrauded the public were sent to jail (Enron, cigarette advertising), and that we will have to see if this turns out to be more defrauding of the public.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
I think the biggest argument for diversity is studying cultures where there is none. When human rights were not afforded to Africans, it enabled chattel slavery. When they were not afforded to indigenous peoples, it enabled confiscation of land and wholesale slaughter. When they were not afforded to Jews, it enabled the Holocaust. Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin. Where religious diversity is not allowed it leads to ISIS.
Those things may all be bad, but what do they have to do with diversity?
Diversity of thought is a foundation of the west developing incrementally to its current strength through time. Free or at least freer speech is what helped develop the traditional west - a place where we are currently safe from all the horrors you mention.
But as you note mistakes have been made.
As we became stronger we dealt with the problems. Now we may be too strong. Too comfortable.
Lauren Southern makes an interesting point in the video above when she quotes something like "Tolerance and apathy are what destroys civilizations."
One of the things I find most frustrating about the regressives who identify as progressives is their refusal to acknowledge the obvious.
The excesses of multi-cultural, identity politics lunacy are deconstructing the structure of the west. It gets weaker. It will die and the likelyhood is it will be replaced by the same sort of power structures that allowed the evils you point at if those excesses are allowed to continue.
My support for that probability would be 'look around.'
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
I think the biggest argument for diversity is studying cultures where there is none. When human rights were not afforded to Africans, it enabled chattel slavery. When they were not afforded to indigenous peoples, it enabled confiscation of land and wholesale slaughter. When they were not afforded to Jews, it enabled the Holocaust. Where diversity of political thought was not allowed it led to Mao and Stalin. Where religious diversity is not allowed it leads to ISIS.
Those things may all be bad, but what do they have to do with diversity?
Diversity of thought is a foundation of the west developing incrementally to its current strength through time. Free or at least freer speech is what helped develop the traditional west - a place where we are currently safe from all the horrors you mention.
But as you note mistakes have been made.
As we became stronger we dealt with the problems. Now we may be too strong. Too comfortable.
Lauren Southern makes an interesting point in the video above when she quotes something like "Tolerance and apathy are what destroys civilizations."
One of the things I find most frustrating about the regressives who identify as progressives is their refusal to acknowledge the obvious.
The excesses of multi-cultural, identity politics lunacy are deconstructing the structure of the west. It gets weaker. It will die and the likelyhood is it will be replaced by the same sort of power structures that allowed the evils you point at if those excesses are allowed to continue.
My support for that probability would be 'look around.'
I've got little time for the quibbles of ivory tower intellectuals educated beyond all possible usefulness, or various identity groups trying to out-victim each other. However, I see rising overt naziism as a more immediate threat.
And I agree, there's an apathy that comes from successful empire. The fruit rots on the vine, the society becomes more insular, obsessed with itself. As a conservative perhaps you see moral decay as the primary cause. Myself, I see a growing gap between the rich and the rest of the people as the primary cause. More specifically you have apolitical system all but completely co-opted by corporate interests.