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Toyota sales dropped for the first time in how long? Of course it'll have coverage in automotive magazines (ex: Motor Trend), because its big news. I don't care how respected Motor Trend is, it's still just one magazine among hundreds. Motor Trend and Globe&Mail's "seem to suggest" is hardly fact, its just their current educated guess. If things aren't as rosy at Toyota, I want to hear it from the horse's mouth.

You stated that the Corolla is a very-efficient econo car. The Prius is way more fuel-efficient and economic. If you want to use a fuel miser and econo Toyota in your statement use the top dog.

Hybrid sales have been growing in the past year for Toyota so more and more people are opting for the hybrids (Prius, Camry) than the non-hybrid Corolla. If Toyota hybrids the Corolla (which many people suggest they should as an option) then Corolla sales would level out. Tundra sales have tapered because it's quality isn't up to snuff by Toyota's standards and people are turning away from fullsized trucks and SUVs to more scaled down versions (just like whats happening wit the BIG 3).

When Toyota begins to close plants and cut jobs then we'll see things aren't "rosy". Till then, you can quote other peoples' "educated guesses" all you want.

One more thing. If you don't care what I think then by all means click the "ignore" button.

   

I see you're still here hoping that posting anything, it'll be something. Take your drop-out junk and park it. You're still wrong and i'm still right. Bye, loser.

   

Motor Trend is a respected automotive journal and i'll believe its findings before I listen to the likes of you. The Globe and Mail business and auto sections are respected leaders in their fields and i'll certainly put my faith in them before i put any stock in your subjective prattle. The fact that you're attacking their alleged credibility instead of refuting their message screams volumes about you. Sorry, you matter little in comparison.



It is a very efficient econo car - very good. And, nope, i don't care what is more fuel efficient because it's immaterial, but thanks for the irrelevancy



Immaterial. I posted that Corolla sales were below expectations and all you can do is post is empty minutia in return. The Tundra's sales have "tapered" due to quality? Really? Got any objective "respected" sources on that one? We'll see.



Sorry, i put faith in education, but i guess when you've got none, that falls on deaf ears, huh? Any goof that questions the Globe and Mail's business acumen or Motor Trend's musings (again, with no objective information to the contrary) isn't worth the time.



A couple more things - I'll post what and where I want here as i certainly don't take marching orders from you.

And you're more than welcome to practice what you preach.

   

I don't see Motor Trend's "educated guesses" or predictions as fact. They say what might happen. Predicting is different from fact. You know that.

It wasn't sales that dropped this quarter, it was profits. Sales actualy rose 3.8%. Profits however dipped to 3.05 bilion dollars. Toyota says the reason for this is the rising strengh of the yen and the weakening U.S. dollar. Toyota predicts that profits this year will drop to 12 billion dollars as oppose to last year's 16.54 billion dollar profit. The main thing is, Toyota is still making money despite this quarter's drop. Which is more than I can say for GM who posted a 3.3 billion dollar loss just this quarter and its annual loss for 2007 at 38.7 billion dollars. So who should be more worried here? As I can see Toyota is still sitting pretty.

Calm down, no need to fly off the handle. You talk about credibility and here you are flaming other people. If you want to flame people then do it in the flaming dumpster forum, thats what it's there for. If you don't like what others post, or you see a mistake in what they say, just simply correct them, but don't flame them for it. If you want to have discussions with me then check your attitude at the door.

If you still don't care what I think, then either don't reply to my posts or click the ignore button.

   

How is this difficult? Motor Trend didn't "guess" or "surmise" or through out an "opinion" it reported that TOYOTA IS SCALING BACK SALES EXPECTATIONS for its bread-and-butter Corolla. This isn't a prediction, it's a statement of fact and unless you can prove otherwise (and so far, all i've seen from you is subjective prattle) i'll take it as a "fact". Oh...and whether you "believe" or not is immaterial.



Wow, talk about argumentative fallacies (maybe instead of whining about alleged flaming you could try making a coherent rebuttal). Toyota is scaling back SALES expectations - again, SALES EXPECTATIONS, regarding its redesigned Corolla. That was my initial point, it remains my point and you've down jack squat to call it into question. Unless, of course, you count the intellectual coward's retreat to questioning major publications like Motor Trend or the Globe and Mail's credentials without a shred of evidence to support it. I don't.



I'll calm down when you smarten up. Firstly, i don't take marching orders from the likes of you and if you don't like it, hit the [ignore] button instead of crying like a suck. Moreover, practice what you preach - you've done nothing to address points on merit, you're disigenious and you infer behaviors. Why not develop a thicker skin, check your ignorance at the door and maybe i'll let you continue having "discussions" with me.



Actually, i could care less about what you think, but i'll post when and where I want to and if you don't like it, practice what you preach and hit the [ignore] button yourself

Oh...and unless you've got something beyond your rather pedestrian opinion to call Motor Trend or the Globe and Mail's reporting into question, save it as I'm still waiting on your substantiation that the Tundra's sales are off due to quality. Perhaps instead of issuing baseless proclamations, you could back up your stuff?

   

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