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So what you are saying then is that the reason the Police in LA beat King was because tof an unconscious bias towards african American.. i'm suprised that you didn't put in there that they were high off caffiene , Sugar and nicotene from all the donuts, coffee and cigarettes they had before hand.

Could not the responce to mr King have been becuase he eluded police, put people in Jeopardy not only the police officers involved but the general public at large. Then upon finally stopping Mr' King and him neither not understanding or resisting the officers attempts to take him into custody.... that really had nothing to do with it.... hmmm imagine that it was all just a subconscious hatred of blacks..... well now that that has thoroughly been explained... I am going to now goto the bathroom and throw up..... The officers were"conditioned to thier responce".. like Pavlov's dogs huh... okay....sure.. you go off and spout your theories... perhaps many of the bad police officers also felt stong feelings of hated towards thier fathers and loved thier mothers. They had difficult times coming to terms With the length of thier penis's too... WHY not discover freud in thier too.. perhaps a little pychoanalysis... lets get all the police involved to sit on the end of the bed Dr. Freud...LOL

   

Do you actually read history book... no seriously.. do you.

Propaganda is in many forms used by governments.. companies everyday ( you could call it advertising too if you really wanted to).
Soldiers are paid to do a job as I said that job is to eliminate the enemy whilst minimizing the number of casualties you have. Layman's terms. It's not brainwashing.. kill kill kill kill kill kill. there is manipulation involved that through training allows you to understand that you can take another person's life and that you yourself may be killed in turn.

Okay that said no subconscious images no implanted thought no subliminal messages..okay

On the History side. The armies of Europe were mobilizing troops for years before the shot from Principe's gun pierced the chest of the Arch Duke Ferdinand... It was One in a LONG line of many causes that lead to the full onslaut on war... it wasn't just because of Serbian terrorism that Germany declared war on Russia if you believe that there are Libraries of books at universities that dispute and refute that F**K i've even wrote thesis papers on the causes of WW 1 and WW2... do we need to bring Mustang 1 and the Plethera of other history officianado's in here to refute that... come on.

In germany the rallying cry for years before WW1 and WW2 was Liebenraum (livingspace) germany is a small country.. they need raw materials.. the drive to the east (Dracht noct Ousten) seems the more natural path to take. The Germans and the French were bitter enemies for years. Britain usually sided with Germany against both France and Spain. Russia wished to be like France, thier aristocracy liked French culture. We can all thank the Czars for that. Germany had troops mobilized onthier borders, Russia had troops mobilized on thier border in direct responce to Germany... etc etc etc...

   

Of course propoganda effects people subconciously. If a picture of has a German uniform and the words German, Germany, or Hun those words will be associated with the German foot soldier. If the words Germany, German, Hun are used with words suchs as evil, or images such as a bloody palmprint, suggesting evil tose images will be associated with the Hun, who is the soldier in German clothing. Often the images of evil and the uniformed soldier are on the same poster.

Now in hand to hand combat a person is understess and their heart rate will increse. This is an appropreate responce both due tot he need for ohysical strength and swiftness but also the need for rapid cognitave skills the best cognitave capacity occures at mid range about 2.0 Hz around , beyond that cognitave ability decreases and people are drvien to a greater extent by intuitiona dn instinct, at 2.7 Hz point the ceribelum shuts down and mental thought is similar both in nature and capacity to that of a dog. It is in this frame of mind were most hotrocities would occure.

   

I would certainly like to read the studies you pulled that information from. New England journal of medicine.... Hmm the Hz rate in the brain best at around 2.0 but when increasd in the cerebelum to 2.7Hz mental and cognitive balance is lost... Certainly would like to see that in a legitimate study.
Taking it away from a battlefield context and moving it to a sporting context.. which is like a battlefield with boundaries, rules etc.. ( as there are rules in war Boundaries etc. Only difference is in a war it'd lives and destruction and in sports it's wins and losses..
Lets look at the position of QB in footbal. these are finely conditioned athletes as are most soldiers. They go through training as do soldiers, they have a eschelon of command.. as do soldiers. Okay here goes my ex[planation of what you said. Cognitive function over 2.0 turns us more into behaviour like animals and rules out cognitive reasoning.

A QB in a football game has 11 other men on his team he has 12 men on the opposition team that wish to do him harm or at least get his offence off the field of play. He has the stress of lets say 100,000 people watching him plus the millions glued to TV sets around the world. People cheering for him and against him.. Rather stressful environment wouldn't you say.
Now that Quarterback has a set plan of mission directives that he calls from ( his play book) everyone knows on his team the tactical lay out of the progression of play.. So with all that going on he calls his set play lets say he has a 3 reciever set with a RB in the back field. he knows that throwing downfield may cause the loss of the play on interception. Now he has the ball snapped to him, under a full blitz (the defence is coming to sack him) his heart rate will be at a high level... but yet he has the mental and cognitive reasoning to move his feet to maintain space between him and defender, while searching out his best of 3-4 other pass options. But yet some how he manages to lose the defenders and deliver a precision strike to one of his recievers who now at a hieghtened state of awareness ( heart rate up must decern the mirade of possibilities cognitively analyze the defensive position against him in order to find the seems and lanes to get that ball in for a score.

It happens every week.. CFL and NFL football.. broken play, cognitive decisions by athletes at that highest of stress levels... and some how that cognitive ability to precieve threat, friend/ foe open space etc etc etc.. seems to be working very well.

Soldiers for the most part are highly trained for the job they do. They mostly are in peak physical condition but they all have one thing in common with athletes the ability to focus and refocus thier attention to threats and possible new threats thats may appear to them. We are not dogs nor are we conditioned to be like dogs.. or other lower animals.
Just because a soldier may see images of something horrible the sub concious is always there in a protective state. Through your training your sub conscious picks up on little clues and help you decide the right plane of action... As a soldier you may be walking into an area that seems unusually quiet.. alarm rate goes up.. not birds no animals etc... why not... what here has chased them off? etc. chances are you sub conscious mind qued your conscious mind into realizing that something seems a miss a little off.

   

All that said:

okay here's the best part.. if we do carry biases and prejudices.. those are the things that keep us alive on the battlefield. Many soldiers will see that a surrendering soldier is radically different from one who is not. First off. But you must also consider the high amount of stress that was placed upon that soldier. There is nothing to be said of the anger that a soldier may have had after the battle is done. The surrendering soldier may have been hurt or only ran out of ammunition that was the reason he surrendered. Did this surrendering soldier just shoot 1 or 2 of the men in this soldiers unit.. is there a want of retribution by this soldier who just saw his buddies die. has nothing to do with propganda.. he saw a bad image of the other soldier in training and that conditioned his responce... This guy just blew away 2 of his friends.. you think this guy who has been ducking fire and returning fire is going to want to discuss or accept surrender terms... hmm not likely.

From the surrendering soldiers point of view.. in his own mind... have I just endured a firefight where I killed many of the opposition soldiers I was up against, will I be taken care of, could I not just run away and live to fight another day or perhaps I could get into thier ranks and take more of them with me, since I know I am going to die....

   

True it is a concern. I think the that if thier is a solution it it shrough soliders ensure they do all they can to keep themseleves safe beforehand, sensitivity training, and possibly stimulie such as music to allow soldiers to maintain a lower heart rate imporving cognitave judgment.

   

You want soldiers to be at the highest level of threat assesment.. you don't need sensitivity training for soldiers.. most people are compassionite.. but you are asking people to put thier lives on the line... but watch out for the other guy... ya the guy who is trying to kill you.. ya cuase he might just surrender and well thats okay... just be ready with the hugs and kisses.. It sends mixed messages to your front line troops can you not see that... And besides what we were originally talking about.. happened 80-1000 years ago.. the world was a very brutal place in a time of war... in todays world.. it's just as brutal, except we have people like you who want to kiss the ass of the enemy and give them flowers.

   

I arrive when called – it’s like the Bat Symbol – I’m here to keep the forum safe from revisionism, piss poor history and wiki raiders! It’s a job of kickin’ ass and changin’ lives!

So far, I’ve seen some mushy history here – sorry, Knoss, but you’re on the short bus for history here. Twister’s right, your understanding of history is not only rudimentary but also factually wrong.

For instance,



The German Empire was drawn into a war with Russia over Serbian terrorism? Are you kidding me? Even Google U is better than this junk. The German High Command WANTED a war and Gavrilo’s trigger finger merely provided the nation with the opportunity (if one looks at the Schlieffen Plan, the issuing of the German blank cheque and the notions of Weltpolitik then this becomes clear). Sorry, unless you can counter this rather objective point with sound historical evidence, your understanding is severely flawed.

   

More self loathing from the peanut gallery I see, you are free to leave the theatre at any time....

   

And this message from said Peanut Gallery is directed toward…?

   

was that fear and self loathing on dagoba? boodah

   

Uhm the reason many Jurisdictions have pulled out of High speed pursuits.. was Rodney King????? Where do you dredge this stuff up are you making this up as you go along. So what you are saying is PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder which clinically started to be worked on during and after the vietnam war with war Veteran's)( In world war 1 World war 2 even through Korea it was called being "shell shocked") and a strong african american bias by police officers led to the attack on mr. king which I've already commented on earlier... But the second little tidbit of information about police chases is so erronious I felt I needed to talk about it.

Police departments across the US and Canada have been sued successfully by people (other than the perpatrator or officers) involved in accidents and crashes that killed or injured the general public.
#1 reason that police got out of high speed chases was LITIGATION from other parties.
#2 reason accidents and damage to police equipment and police officers a radio broadcasts faster than a cruiser can drive.
#3 reason In most high speed chases the perp crashes his vehicle or stolen vehicle into something or someone to end the chase... that still happens even if the police aren't following directly behind at 100 mph.. they are just calling the ambulance and clean up crew....
#4 the use of spike belts , road closures and helocopters ( search light.. you can't drive faster than a police helo,,,,,)

   

PTSD? are you serious? It could explaine some thing in world war 1 such as throwing grenades in coat pockets, but I was reffering to a normal bias in times of extreme stress.

   

Post Traumatic stress disorder comes from repeated times of high level stress.. It can be triggered even by one serious event.. you start reliving that event over and over until you can't cope with it. It becomes a serious mental health issue if it is not dealt with properly.. I counselled a friend of mine through it a few years ago.

   

Not towards you, but for the people that create these Im Canadian but must feel bad threads.

   

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