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Soooo.... nothing then to support your assertion?



How so?

   

1 and 2 can be answered by killing, killing can also tell us the general health of a pod, if there are any new things entering their diet, how they adapt to climate change, and a variety of other useful facts.

   

How often does a lion kill a lion? a wolf kill another wolf? A dolphin kill a dolphin? Inter species killing is extremely common whereas inner species killing is far rarer.

   

Interesting link on data collection. I think I missed the point about killing whales as a means for population estimate in between the accoustic tracking, visual sighting, catch and release and other means.

Could you point it out please?

   

That's an interesting course correction.

   

Interesting that you miss how those are primary sources of numbers whereas hunting would be a secondary but still accurate form as ease of finding would relate to population size.

   

Oops... you still have nothing then.

   

Wooo, one point, congratulations, and you still lost the main argument.

   

Like how your assertion in the other thread was so easily defeated, saying you won doesn't mean you won.

   

The thread disagrees, your arguments were taken apart piece by piece, all that remains is your steady denial.

   

You did nothing but submit unsupportable assertions.

I suspect you made some karate chops in between the keyboard mashing as well.

   

The population numbers come from the ICW itself. Their initial estimate in the 90's was a southern population of Minke whales around 760,000. IN 2000 they revised that figure substantially to around 380,000. Add that to the 106,000 or so in the northeast Atlantic and we have a population of around 500,000 individuals. That doesn't include numbers from the north Pacific since there's no current estimate.
As far as kills go. in 09/10 Japan caught 1296 whales of all species.
Norway's quota for 2011 in set at 1286. With a quota of 1052 in 2006, Norway only took 546.
South Korean fishermen caught 827 Minkes over the span of 4 years. IF we look at all but South Korea, it's easy to see that Norway, Iceland and Japan aren't exactly rolling in food animal friendly terrain and/or environments. Certainly nations like Canada and the US as well as much of Europe have no need for whale meat due to the huge expanses of land available for crops and cattle. But who are we to force our moral values of what should be food, onto others?

Just as PETA has no right to tell me what I can and can't eat, you don't have that right to tell others. You may not like it, heck I don't necessarily agree with whale hunting either, but I've told enough people to "fuck off" when it comes to our seal hunts it would be hypocritical of me to qvetch at someone else's eating habits. As long as the species being hunted aren't endangered, then closely monitored and regulated commercial hunts should be permitted, and it looks like the ICW could swing back in that direction.

   

The guy's a dick. Sink the boat for a breakwater.

   

All this talk about "quotas" as if there is some international body setting sustainable limits on whaling. The quotas are self created by the whaling countries... It's like me asserting it's ok that I'm only slaughtering 35 bald eagles a year because I have a self created quota of 40.

Bottom line for Mr. Watson is he has never been convicted of a major crime because his "vigilante" activities are perpetrated against people breaking or bending laws and he seems pretty careful to make sure everything he does will never land him in jail... or cost him his ship's flag (keep in mind his host port's country defacto condones his activities by allowing him to sail their flag).

   

Dude, the ICW has NO real legal authourity. Japan, Norway and Iceland are NOT breaking or bending ANY laws. I dunno what's so hard to grasp about that concept.
Let me ask you, when he refused to respond to an SOS from a non-whaling ship, do you NOT consider that to be a major crime against maritime law?
You can praise and hero worship him all you want, fact is, between him and the whalers, he is the only one to have consistently flouted(and broken) actual, real laws

   

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