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PublicAnimalNo9 @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:22 pm
nahhhh that's pretty funny actually LOL
martin14 @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:20 pm
Curtman Curtman:
Iran signed the nuclear non-proliferation agreement, and there's no reason to believe they have violated it.
Why wont Israel sign?
Why wont Israel sign?
$1:
In November 2003 IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei reported that Iran had repeatedly and over an extended period failed to meet its safeguards obligations, including by failing to declare its uranium enrichment program
from leftiewiki
Meaning they broke the treaty before 2003, way before.. the IAEA
is a real bureaucracy.
So stop posting untruths, and please stop the constant Jew bashing...
This thread is about Iran.
Proculation @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:33 pm
They have something like 50,000 centrifuges and are building more and more to make the enrichment faster. It's not just words or supposition like Praxius said, it's real.
GreenTiger @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:30 am
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GreenTiger @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:32 am
Given Israeli history ( even before there was an Israel) they take comments like "wipe them off the earth" very seriously.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the nazi death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel one day will run out of patients and when when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:01 am
GreenTiger GreenTiger:
Given Israeli history ( even before there was an Israel) they take comments like "wipe them off the earth" very seriously.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the navy death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel day a day on a map circled and when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the navy death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel day a day on a map circled and when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
I'm sorry, but your posts are often incomprehensible. What are navy death camps?
$1:
Israel day a day on a map circled and when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military.
$1:
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says
No one, including most Jews, believed the Nazis were going to do what they did. Many believed that they were merely being relocated and that's why they were so easily rounded up, for the most part.
GreenTiger @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:40 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
GreenTiger GreenTiger:
Given Israeli history ( even before there was an Israel) they take comments like "wipe them off the earth" very seriously.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the navy death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel day a day on a map circled and when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the navy death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel day a day on a map circled and when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
I'm sorry, but your posts are often incomprehensible. What are navy death camps?
$1:
Israel day a day on a map circled and when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military.
$1:
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says
No one, including most Jews, believed the Nazis were going to do what they did. Many believed that they were merely being relocated and that's why they were so easily rounded up, for the most part.
Point well taken. I need to read my posts more carefully before submitting them or I sound like an idiot.
My main point is that Israel will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. They will take miliary action to prevent that if needed.
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:52 am
I think we're all agreed on that point. That and the fact that the arabs seem to be looking the other way. There is no love lost between the arabs and the Iranians.
CommanderSock @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:05 am
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:14 am
Dr. Strangeglove is in the house apparently 
Praxius @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:39 am
GreenTiger GreenTiger:
Given Israeli history ( even before there was an Israel) they take comments like "wipe them off the earth" very seriously.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the nazi death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel one day will run out of patients and when when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
They are surrounded by countries that want to kill them and the rail road ties leading to the nazi death camps haven't even rotted away yet.
Israel one day will run out of patients and when when that day comes Mossad will try to convince Netanyahu that the time has come to do something military. He won't need a lot of convincing.
Like Hitler they believe that Ahmadinajad means every word that he says.
Does anybody here actually know the history between many of the Middle East nations and Jews during WWII?
Many of those nations actually took in many Jews trying to flee from Nazi oppression and genocide. The only reason why there is such a conflict there is simply because of them being passed the buck by the UN and WWII allies who plopped them right down on what was their land at the time and gave them their own country, while pushing out many who already called that land home.
Why didn't the US, Britian or Canada setup some of their own land to give to the Jewish if it was such a big important thing to them to give them their own nation?
This is the conflict.... these people were given their own home at the expense of other people's already existing homes, and all the while this keeps going on, Israel keeps pushing and pushing, expanding their borders further and acting like it's their right to do this, rather then actually try and find some sort of compromise that works for everybody.
Because of Israel's hard-lined approach to what they feel they have every right to do at the expense of those who already lived there, there is an ever growing hatred towards Israel and a desire to "Wipe the Israeli Regime from the Pages of Time" not to wipe all Israelis off the face of the earth.
This current government in place for Israel has no intentions to take the issue seriously and have no problem solving their problems with military action, rather then communication.
Whether or not Jewish people called that area home in the past or not.... it was the home for others at the time they moved back in.... two wrongs do not make a right.
And since Israel is so damn aggressive in that area and have no regard for anybody else who's not Jewish, it's no wonder why such nations as Iran or other are just as paranoid as those in Israel.
This is why nobody is absolutely right, and everybody is in the wrong.
The Iranian president, along with many other officials in Iran has clearly stated in numerous interviews that they have no desire to genocide Israelis, that they are willing to work with a plan forward that works for a state for both Jews and Muslims in that area who both call the land home. The only reason why he commented on wiping the Israeli Regime from the pages of time, is because that Regime doesn't want to find any decent solution to the current issues.
They want a two state solution.... the US is pushing Israel for a two state solution... yet what is Israel doing?
Expanding and plotting methods of creating more conflicts and more war to justify further expanding, while blaming and villianizing the other guys because we don't relate to them is certainly not going to solve anything.
In regards to my claims of what Iran has stated about Two-States - Source:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/04 ... d-sup.html
$1:
During our exclusive "This Week" interview, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran would support a two-state solution in the Middle East if Palestinians voted to approve a peace agreement with Israel.
I pressed him repeatedly on the issue, culminating in this exchange:
Stephanopoulos: "If the Palestinians sign an agreement with Israel, will Iran support it?"
Ahmadinejad: "Whatever decision they take is fine with us. We are not going to determine anything. Whatever decision they take, we will support that. We think that is the right of the Palestinian people, however we fully expect other states to do so as well."
The Iranian president signaled that Iran could accept the existence of Israel, in stark contrast to both his previously reported statement that Israel must be "wiped off the map" and the position of Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Ahmadinejad: 'No, No' to Nuke Talks Without 'Preconditions'
Ahmadinejad said that he would soon unveil a new "package of proposals for talks" on Iran's nuclear program, but he refused to commit to negotiations without "preconditions."
"We think that the nuclear issue needs to be resolved in the context of the agency and regulations," he said. "I have no reservations when it comes to talking."
"So you're ready to talk without preconditions?" I asked.
"No, No," Ahmadinejad replied. "We should just have a clear-cut framework for talks. The agenda should be clear."
I pressed him repeatedly on the issue, culminating in this exchange:
Stephanopoulos: "If the Palestinians sign an agreement with Israel, will Iran support it?"
Ahmadinejad: "Whatever decision they take is fine with us. We are not going to determine anything. Whatever decision they take, we will support that. We think that is the right of the Palestinian people, however we fully expect other states to do so as well."
The Iranian president signaled that Iran could accept the existence of Israel, in stark contrast to both his previously reported statement that Israel must be "wiped off the map" and the position of Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Ahmadinejad: 'No, No' to Nuke Talks Without 'Preconditions'
Ahmadinejad said that he would soon unveil a new "package of proposals for talks" on Iran's nuclear program, but he refused to commit to negotiations without "preconditions."
"We think that the nuclear issue needs to be resolved in the context of the agency and regulations," he said. "I have no reservations when it comes to talking."
"So you're ready to talk without preconditions?" I asked.
"No, No," Ahmadinejad replied. "We should just have a clear-cut framework for talks. The agenda should be clear."
Praxius @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:56 am
Oh and perhaps the reason why so many muslim nations have no interest in recognizing Israel as a State that Exists, is because to them, Israel doesn't seem to want to recognize the Muslim's right to exist who were pushed out from their homes, which is still happening today.
Respect is earned, not given... and if you treat people like scum, why should you be treated any differently?
Choban @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:11 am
Well said Prax, other than that current Israel is historically the area Jews came from as well, like I posted earlier, this conflict is more than 1000 years old (this doesn't make their policies right by any means though), on the other hand historically it's where the palistinians came from as well.
On a lighter note if anyone cares, theres a good book (it's a bit weird) by Tom Robbins called skinny legs and all where an Arab and a Jew open a restaurant together in new york.
Curtman @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:26 pm
martin14 martin14:
$1:
In November 2003 IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei reported that Iran had repeatedly and over an extended period failed to meet its safeguards obligations, including by failing to declare its uranium enrichment program
Meaning they broke the treaty before 2003, way before.. the IAEA
is a real bureaucracy.
Is that the same IAEA that that spent all that time running around looking for WMD's in Iraq?
martin14 martin14:
So stop posting untruths, and please stop the constant Jew bashing...
When did I ever participate in "Jew bashing"?
Untruths indeed.
Praxius @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:50 pm
It is possible to critisize something and not Bash it or be Anti-What'evar, ya'know?
Besides, arn't true friend's supposed to talk their best friend out of doing something stupid?