Iran is ready to build an N-bomb - it is just waiting for th
Newsbot @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:39 am
Title: Iran is ready to build an N-bomb - it is just waiting for the Ayatollah's order
Category: World
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-08-03 22:46:05
pretty sure that order has already been given...
What's that I hear....... the rumble of jets in the distance......and the faint sounds of Hava Nagila.
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
What's that I hear....... the rumble of jets in the distance......and the faint sounds of Hava Nagila.
They did it to Iraq in '81. There's no reason to believe they'll just sit around and do nothing this time.
Mossad and the IDF are going to get to work.
Choban @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:50 am
It's scary enough that nukes even exist. Israel won't stand by and watch this happen though.
I love how Iranian leaders villify the west and then straight out lie and tell the world they are just after commercial nuclear energy.
Haven't we been down this road before? Are they getting yellow cake from Niger too?
Potentially almost every country that has a nuclear reactor is a year or so awayfrom building a bomb. It's not like it's that big a secret any longer. Hell, designs of the first atomic weapons are all over the net.
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Fission/Fission9.shtml
Iran is not ready to build a bomb because they don't have the technologie to refine their own Uranium.
-Wario- -Wario-:
Iran is not ready to build a bomb because they don't have the technologie to refine their own Uranium.
umm, wrong.
they have, they may not have enough of it to process enough uranium.. for now.
martin14 martin14:
-Wario- -Wario-:
Iran is not ready to build a bomb because they don't have the technologie to refine their own Uranium.
umm, wrong.
they have, they may not have enough of it to process enough uranium.. for now.
I have my sources.. unless the imported.. iran cannot do it.
Praxius @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:23 am
This is just more fearmongering over nothing except mere speculation from "Western Intelligence Agencies" that arn't even named.
We all know how well this intelligence really is. Mere speculation.
Case in Point:
$1:
“The main thing (in 2003) was the lack of fissile material, so it was best to slow it down,” the sources said. “We think that the leader himself decided back then (to halt the programme), after the good results.”
First quote is speculation because the original US Intelligence report that was last released claimed that there is absolutely no evidence of any weapon's grade uranium existing in any of the known plants. While there was evidence that they were working on weapon's grade, there isn't now.
Logically if one was working on such plans and suddenly stopped because of fear of attack, one would try to salvage as much of that technology and equipment and put it to some use, so as to not make it a total loss of money and resources, and put it into energy.
Long stretch, but prove it otherwise..... nobody can. All current evidence shows nothing to justify any military action.
Second part:
"WE THINK...."Based on what?
Nothing.... not one thing is mentioned that would explain or justify this reasoning, except speculation.
This part is really rich:
$1:
....An Israeli official said that Iran had poured billions of dollars over three decades into a two-pronged “master plan” to build a nuclear bomb. He said that Iran had enriched 1,010kg of uranium to 3.9 per cent, which would be sufficient for 30kg of highly enriched uranium at 95 per cent. About 30kg is needed to build one bomb.....
Where's the evidence, or are we supposed to take Israel at its word?
If Israel's claims were true, then how come US Intelligence claims otherwise that there's no such evidence of any weapon's grade material in Iran, let alone for one bomb?
$1:
.... British intelligence services are familiar with the secret information about Iran’s experiments, sources at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said. Although British agencies did not have their own “independent evidence” that Iran had successfully tested the explosive component of a nuclear warhead, they said there was no reason to doubt the assessment.....
So let's base our fearmongering on hearsay....
Cripes, didn't anybody learn anything from Afghanistan and Iraq?
Sure, let's make it 3 for 3.
Sorry, I base my views upon evidence and facts... not this type of speculative crap.
If people are really scared of Iran making a bomb and wish to stop them, do it the right way... get the evidence, get the proof.
Right now we have one intelligence angency that's been wrong before with Afghanistan and Iraq, contradicting what these un-named intelligence agencies are stating, who based their speculations from another intelligence agency's claims, which are based on hearsay of another intelligence agency.
Does anybody else see how screwed up that is?
If the current agency that's claiming this all to be true in this report isn't going to come forward and identify themselves and they arn't going to present their evidence as to why they assume this.... then it could be claims made by anybody.
If we can't send people to prison without factual evidence.... why the hell should we be permitted to start wars and attack other nations based on hearsay and speculation from un-named sources?I'm not some great supporter of Iran and I don't trust them anymore then I trust Israel or any other middle east nation.... but I'm not going to jump on a
witch-hunt bandwagon simply because it's the popular thing to do.
Curtman @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:31 am
Iran signed the nuclear non-proliferation agreement, and there's no reason to believe they have violated it.
Why wont Israel sign?
Praxius @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:04 am
Curtman Curtman:
Iran signed the nuclear non-proliferation agreement, and there's no reason to believe they have violated it.
Why wont Israel sign?
Indeed... Even Canada signed that agreement, and yet we're allowed to use nuclear energy, just as Iran is entitled to do.
There's been a lot of talk about Iran breaking their contract agreements, yet they haven't.... there's no evidence proving this claim and if they are seeking energy, then that's within their allowed rights.
Lemmy @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:11 am
Curtman Curtman:
Iran signed the nuclear non-proliferation agreement, and there's no reason to believe they have violated it.
Why wont Israel sign?
Mukluk @ Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:56 pm
"N-bomb"? seriously? rofl. Is that like an F-bomb? Who writes these, honestly. Is the next heading "Obama Sharply Critizes Iran for Use of the N-bomb"?
lmfao
it's probably just me...having one of those days.
-m