Let war resisters stay in Canada, U.S. protesters say
romanP @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:33 am
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
Regina Regina:
Throw them back over the fence. They should have joined the Girl Guides..........
You know, if people like you stopped for a second to put away your macho insecurity bullshit and actually think about things before talking about them, the world would probably be a much less violent place in the first place, and then we wouldn't have people trying to defect from their nation's military because their president made a bad decision.
That's even a bigger pile.
Is it really, or are you just afraid to admit that I might be right?
Before you project your limited knowledge on the subject maybe you should ask someone who's served, what the likelihood of serving out of country was going to be when they signed up.
Have you served in the American military?
$1:
Anyone who thought they were going to be guarding Sussex drive and collect a military pay check wouldn't have the wherewithal to do that job either.
That's not what I'm talking about. There is only one way I would sign up for the military, and that is if there was a threat of foreign invaders. As far as I can tell, there is not really a threat of anyone attacking Canada any time soon, and that is not just a result of us already being in other countries and, quite frankly, doing what the people of those countries have asked from us, rather than doing what we think is best for them. We have a history of not invading countries for conquest. America cannot say that about their history.
Our policy military differs greatly from what Americans do with their military, and their recruiters are not honest about the tasks that their military performs. Somehow, there are a lot of people who have no idea what the military does, and many recruiters prey on this fact by lying and saying that you can get paid to play basketball or be in a band in the military. There are also people who sign up because they want to defend their country, not to be flown somewhere else to shoot strangers that were never a threat to them to begin with.
$1:
That's not what I'm talking about. There is only one way I would sign up for the military, and that is if there was a threat of foreign invaders
So then be happy you have that choice.. not everyone does..
but the Americans have that choice as well.. which is why they should be sent back.
Our policy military differs greatly from what Americans do with their military, and their recruiters are not honest about the tasks that their military performs.
if i think someone is lying to me, i check it out.. I ASK QUESTIONS !!!
if these boys were too stupid to do that, well sorry but tough shit..
There are also people who sign up because they want to defend their country, not to be flown somewhere else to shoot strangers that were never a threat to them to begin with.
Once again, when u sign up, you dont have that choice.. thats how it works, for good or bad.
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
mtbr mtbr:
Send them back ...it's a voluntary military why did they enlist if they thought they might have to fight?
Probably because they signed up to to defend their country, not to be flown to another country to shoot people who were not a threat to theirs, and then have to defend that country too.
What a pile of crap.........
Really?
Tricks @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:38 am
You sign the dotted line to follow orders unless they are orders to break the geneva convention. toss em back.
Oh, yes, please. Keep them in Canada. 
mtbr @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:41 am
sandorski sandorski:
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
mtbr mtbr:
Send them back ...it's a voluntary military why did they enlist if they thought they might have to fight?
Probably because they signed up to to defend their country, not to be flown to another country to shoot people who were not a threat to theirs, and then have to defend that country too.
What a pile of crap.........
Really?
If you want to question the actions and decisions of senior military officers and government officials don't enlist.....run for office instead
Tricks @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:43 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Oh, yes,
please. Keep them in Canada.

Ass.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Oh, yes,
please. Keep them in Canada.


uhhh.. no thanks.. you can have em back.. no charge
To join the military without acknowledging the potential for combat is the height of idiocy. If the desire to serve strictly at home was the prime motivation, then serving in the Regular Army isn't a smart choice. For an American that leaves the National Guard. Yet there is still the potential to serve outside of the country and the expectation that the US govt couldn't or wouldn't federalize the Guard is naive.
Given the widely known nature of US recruiting practices, it astonishes me that potential recruits still can't be bothered to do a little research before commiting themselves.
Send them back to face the consequences of their actions.
SprCForr SprCForr:
To join the military without acknowledging the potential for combat is the height of idiocy. If the desire to serve strictly at home was the prime motivation, then serving in the Regular Army isn't a smart choice. For an American that leaves the National Guard. Yet there is still the potential to serve outside of the country and the expectation that the US govt couldn't or wouldn't federalize the Guard is naive.
Given the widely known nature of US recruiting practices, it astonishes me that potential recruits still can't be bothered to do a little research before commiting themselves.
Send them back to face the consequences of their actions.
"Combat" is really not the issue here, for all but 1 or 2 anyway(which IIRC didn't even come here but faced the consequences in the US). The Iraq War is a unique situation that most Americans would not have foreseen, because not only was it a full blown War, but it's Justification has never been grounded on anything concrete.
$1:
"Combat" is really not the issue here, for all but 1 or 2 anyway(which IIRC didn't even come here but faced the consequences in the US). The Iraq War is a unique situation that most Americans would not have foreseen, because not only was it a full blown War, but it's Justification has never been grounded on anything concrete.
According to you.. soldiers dont have that luxury.. they sign it away when they sign up. They agree to do what the legal goverment asks them to do, except for the geneva convention as tricks mentioned.
Regina @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:47 pm
romanP romanP:
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
Regina Regina:
Throw them back over the fence. They should have joined the Girl Guides..........
You know, if people like you stopped for a second to put away your macho insecurity bullshit and actually think about things before talking about them, the world would probably be a much less violent place in the first place, and then we wouldn't have people trying to defect from their nation's military because their president made a bad decision.
That's even a bigger pile.
Is it really, or are you just afraid to admit that I might be right?
Before you project your limited knowledge on the subject maybe you should ask someone who's served, what the likelihood of serving out of country was going to be when they signed up.
Have you served in the American military?
$1:
Anyone who thought they were going to be guarding Sussex drive and collect a military pay check wouldn't have the wherewithal to do that job either.
That's not what I'm talking about. There is only one way I would sign up for the military, and that is if there was a threat of foreign invaders. As far as I can tell, there is not really a threat of anyone attacking Canada any time soon, and that is not just a result of us already being in other countries and, quite frankly, doing what the people of those countries have asked from us, rather than doing what we think is best for them. We have a history of not invading countries for conquest. America cannot say that about their history.
Our policy military differs greatly from what Americans do with their military, and their recruiters are not honest about the tasks that their military performs. Somehow, there are a lot of people who have no idea what the military does, and many recruiters prey on this fact by lying and saying that you can get paid to play basketball or be in a band in the military. There are also people who sign up because they want to defend their country, not to be flown somewhere else to shoot strangers that were never a threat to them to begin with.
I wasn't even referring to the American army, because you'd have to be really stupid to think you were going to be trained as a soldier and collect pay all the while living in your parents basement. Bart has served in the US military and could probably be more specific as to what anyone signs up for......and why. I bet he didn't join up thinking he was going to be playing Taps with a bugle on the beaches in Hawaii either.
Joining the US or Canadian military doesn't mean you can pick only the fun stuff. How naive would someone have to be to think that if you joined the armed forces, you wouldn't get shot at or have to shoot at someone else.
So the only way you would join up is there was a threat of foreign invaders?? Better stick with the Boy Scouts then, that way you could stay home and practice while someone else was doing the heavy lifting. With that logic I suppose we shouldn't have declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland either. In the end it really doesn't matter why or why not you would join..........it's an organization that has guns, boats and planes that can hurt people and you should expect to be told to use any of them when and where your told.
Regina @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:51 pm
sandorski sandorski:
Regina Regina:
romanP romanP:
mtbr mtbr:
Send them back ...it's a voluntary military why did they enlist if they thought they might have to fight?
Probably because they signed up to to defend their country, not to be flown to another country to shoot people who were not a threat to theirs, and then have to defend that country too.
What a pile of crap.........
Really?
Yes! Do you think you should get trained and paid to sit on the east or west coast with wooden guns waiting for foreign landing craft?
Regina @ Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:54 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Oh, yes,
please. Keep them in Canada.

Screw you......you made them and should take them back.
Bart Simpson
$1:
Oh, yes, please. Keep them in Canada.
No thanks the last batch just reinforced the NDP etc.
It is the height of hypocrisy for anyone to enlist in the US forces, and not think of what they are signing up for.....this is the age of TV...."Saving private Ryan," "Full metal jacket", "the boys in company C".......
No one grows up reading Tennyson and limiting their world view to that. It is amazing how these people develop principles after the lead starts to fly. IEDs do that to ya.