Man who didn't father twins must pay child support
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TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:21 am
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
You mean she's a Danish king??
OK its a Nasty XXXX!!!!!
Oh i knew I would get the blue
inquiring minds were getting it wrong so I had to elaborate....god forbid you use that word 
when the truth of the matter be told
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:23 am
InternetChatter InternetChatter:
Does anyone actually believe this "woman" would not have gone after the genetic father instead, if he had a bigger paycheck?
I believe she would...she is just a gold digging piece of shit (better put in)XXXX
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:24 am
lily lily:
Brenda is correct. It doesn't matter if the mother had an affair, lied or whatever. The kids are his since he raised them.
Or would you rather see them shunned because you're pissed at their mom?
Or would you rather see them shunned because you're pissed at their mom?
He continues being the father he has always been to them and she pay for his grief therapy and the childrens. He should not have to pay...go after the biological, if she even knows who it is.
Terence @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:29 am
lily lily:
For all yo know, the "real" father and grandparents are even worse.
Arguing a hypothetical in the absence of fact invalidates that line of thought.
Why don't you answer whether she should be charged criminally with fraud?
travior @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:30 am
lily lily:
InternetChatter InternetChatter:
Brenda Brenda:
This is about the best interest of the kids.
The best interest of the kids is not to have a lying whore bag for a mother. And having the right to know his/her genetic grandparents, and father and receive HIS familiar association with the children..
Medicine is quickly going down the genetic marker and history route, from cancer, to degenerative diseases. No mother has the right to conceal or steal the heritage of a human being.
Actually, yes, she does.
For all yo know, the "real" father and grandparents are even worse.
I have to agree with you on that for sure! I have a friend that was in a relationship, got pregnant, got married, then the guy starting beating the crap out of her. She anulled and got him to sign all rights away to the child. Thankfully, he has no idea who his father is.
I just read the article on this case and it is pretty messed up. It makes you wonder what some of these judges are thinking. At worst he should have been relieved of all future payments even if he wasn't reimbursed for previous ones.
Or if he wants to keep a relationship with them, he should maintain the current level of support but not be required to have any increases in the future.
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:31 am
lily lily:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
lily lily:
Brenda is correct. It doesn't matter if the mother had an affair, lied or whatever. The kids are his since he raised them.
Or would you rather see them shunned because you're pissed at their mom?
Or would you rather see them shunned because you're pissed at their mom?
He continues being the father he has always been to them and she pay for his grief therapy and the childrens. He should not have to pay...go after the biological, if she even knows who it is.
And yes, he should have to pay. If he is enough of a father to want to maintain a relationship with them, then he's father enough to want them to be reasonably financially secure.
well as I have stated previously, I have completely different views on Child Support than most.
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:34 am
lily lily:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
lily lily:
Brenda is correct. It doesn't matter if the mother had an affair, lied or whatever. The kids are his since he raised them.
Or would you rather see them shunned because you're pissed at their mom?
Or would you rather see them shunned because you're pissed at their mom?
He continues being the father he has always been to them and she pay for his grief therapy and the childrens. He should not have to pay...go after the biological, if she even knows who it is.
Put it this way.... if you suddenly found out your dad wasn't really your dad... would it matter a whit to you?
Not me. My dad would still be my dad... and I'd be more traumatized if he cut me out of his life than I would be at finding out my mum had an affair.
He should not have to pay....you cannot put a price on someone that is a Dad...that means way more than being just a father. He should not pay.
And yes I know what that feels like. I am adopted and it did.
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:36 am
this woman should give the children over to the TRUE parent. Just because someone creates a child does not make them a parent...as far as I am concerned she isnt a good mother.
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:37 am
lily lily:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
well as I have stated previously, I have completely different views on Child Support than most.
I can't remember what your views are off hand... but mine are that the kids should be taken care of. Their best interests are what's important.
They are in this thread.
Terence @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:40 am
Lily is putting women back 100 years.
Separate rules and criteria based on gender. Wonderful.
Way to give idiots justification to hate both the judicial system and some women for unequal protection under the law, and for turning children into income generators.
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:43 am
$1:
It's not about him though. At least, not to me
He is the one being taken to the cleaners. How can he be a good parent if he is financially crippled...he cant. Being there for children, regardless of bloodline, is more important than any money...they are not commodities. This woman has crushed, not only the children but the Dad, to me that is abuse and she should pay. Imagine being told your children were not yours. Its disgusting.
Terence @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:52 am
lily lily:
Yeah that's right... because I'm getting rich off my kids.
woo hoo!
This isn't about women and men, it's about the kids. If you can't see that, then that's your issue.
woo hoo!
This isn't about women and men, it's about the kids. If you can't see that, then that's your issue.
I know a few guys paying 30 to 60k a year, one where the ex refuses to work. Another who raided the children's college fund that the father (voluntarily) put away after the divorce, depleting all his assets, the Judge thought the mother's actions were acceptable.
The dream world you seem to live in where women do no wrong, and are always looking out for the child's best interest went extinct in the 1960s.
TattoodGirl @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:55 am
lily lily:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
$1:
It's not about him though. At least, not to me
He is the one being taken to the cleaners. How can he be a good parent if he is financially crippled...he cant. Being there for children, regardless of bloodline, is more important than any money...they are not commodities. This woman has crushed, not only the children but the Dad, to me that is abuse and she should pay. Imagine being told your children were not yours. Its disgusting.
It's not about him.... it's about the kids.
Kids cost money, and if one parent has more than the other, then yes, they need to chip in.
Nowhere in the article does it say he's being financially crushed and taken to the cleaners. Child support is based on where the paying parent lives, how much s/he earns and how many children are involved. It's pretty cut and dried... unless you're looking for special expenses, like for extra activities, etc.
Single parents do it all by themselves all the time. I dont put a price on what a Dad does with children. I see less interaction with children from fathers that have to buck up because of child support and spousal support, that is always thrown in there as well. As far as I am concerned she just used him as a rent a dad, she and the courts should be going after the biological father for payments. What is wrong with that?
As far as I see it...Karma is a bitch and these kids will see who is the asshole in this dynamic and turn their backs on her.
Terence @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:03 am
The final thing I will say tonight on this....
it became apparent to me that almost all of the messy child support and marital support issues I have seen have happened with upper middle class (economic standpoint) men marrying less well off women.
Seeing this, I won't even date a women who is substantial worse off (or better off) than me. Economics and supposed entitlement behavior account for most of the greed based decisions I see.
Education, economic standing and EQUALITY of income generation is key. Doesn't matter if you are both poor or both rich, equality seems to give you a far better shot at happiness, Jealousy in divorce and family court almost always comes out of unequal mixes gone wrong.
Terence @ Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:13 am
Okay more ONE LAST THING. 
Child custody needs to be MANDATORY joint custody unless there are abuse issues or a parent doesn't want custody.
That is a blackmail and gender favoritism game that needs to be ended immediately.
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