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I'm on the fence with this. I believe in personal choice. Everybody has the choice to believe, or not to believe, to wear, or not to wear, to be, or not to be. We cannot begin banning things we disagree with, or, as I'm sure we've seen in other articles and stories, religion, free speech, and Coca Cola would not exist.

Should burkas be banned? No. It should be the choice of that individual, much like a Christian might choose to wear a crucifix around his neck, or a Jew might wear a kippah. The burka, however, has become a symbol of oppression, and not a signal of personal choice. I have Muslim neighbors in the apartment across from me who wear the burka, and I don't mind, because they are making the choice. My problem is when the burka becomes necessary for girls to wear because their family forces them to wear it.

Now, what shall we do? Fathers don't always like the choices their daughters make, especially in clothes (I know, if I was a father, I wouldn't let my daughter wear any sweatpants with any writing on the ass). But does this justify some of the horror stories we hear about from time to time? No.

Also, should the burka be grounds to not show your face in court, to a police officer, or a customs officer? No. It's a choice, and yes, maybe you have the cultural belief that the burka is modesty. Fine. But that does not change the fact that it covers your face, and sometimes you need to show your face to show your identity. If I wore those old style hockey masks, and I was pulled over by a police officer, I should be expected to show my face, even if it is a part of my religious or cultural beliefs.

I remember the story about the turban, with the Mounties a few years back, and how he wanted to wear his turban, even though a cowboy hat was normal Mountie attire (for ceremonial issues) and I think, even if my opinion was different then, that he's justified to have it. But if a Sikh wanted the same thing if he was a fire fighter, or a soldier, where a helmet is critical gear for survival, then no, we should continue with the headgear of these professions instead of tolerate religious sensibilities in that situation. The burka or hijab is the same situation, tolerate it whenever the situation does not call for proper identification.

   

Christiany tries to remove temptation from society too.

   

The people calling for this ban in this article are muslim.

They state it has nothing to do with their religon, from peoples response it seems like It has to be repeated about a couple of thousand more times until it sinks in.

They also use words such as "medieval” and “misogynist” to describe these garbs.

I also worked with a muslim, I got to know he quite well. I asked him about the burka and nijab. He basically backed up everything these people are saying in the article he also added "they dont want anyone looking at their wife's body"

People here are prattling on about how its their choice, yeah his choice not hers.

If I attached a dog collar to my girlfriend with a chain and walked her around downtown, I wonder if anyone would do/say anthing ?

   

In this case its brown men telling white men what to do about other brown men who treat women like shit.


Any examples of how we could go about that ?


Well according to history then, they've been feeling threatend and alienated for decades. What gives.



When a cartoon sparks riots across the world causing the deaths of 200 people. Ezra is exacerbating the problem by publishing an article about it in his magazine ? Come on. I'm sure people were reporting what was happening to jews civil rights being stripped away in germany prior to the start of WWII. Should they have not reported this as well as to not exacerbate the problem ?

   

If Muslim men in Canada are allowed to put their women in burqhas I don't see why you can't put yours on a leash. After all, it's the place of men to take care of their women and if you require a leash to do this then that's what you need to do and other people should respect your cultural values

[\sarcasm]

   

The majority of Muslims don't. Myself, I'll put aside my concerns about Islam the day there's a gay pride parade in Mecca and it's tolerated just the same as in any other major city in the world.

   

I personally think if you want to immigrate to some place, don't bring your rules, they have their own. You can't move to some muslim country and say "I'm free woman and I'm wearing what I want". No way, you are could be beaten at the same second. Woman in muslim country has almost no rights. She always goes behind her husband (not beside) and can't eat at the same table with the man.
I've no problem with this rules. I just afraid that the someday, somebody can say to my wife "hey, where is your burka ?". Because the high priority for every muslim is turn the entire world to muslim religion.

   

Of course banning the burka only deals with the outward manifestation. Islam would still be a patriarchal society - women would still be subordinate and poorly educated with no say in bringing up children and sharia law would still apply. Banning the burka would not "liberate" Muslim women one iota.

   

I will personally end anyone who ever says that to my wife.

   

This is all bollocks.

Freedom to wear a garment that signifies how 'not free' you are as a woman and a person?
Yet you guys think that's ok?

We can't ban this shit but we can say we don't agree with it.

Who can agree with this and believe in freedom and equality?

   

And hands down the most successful religion too.

   

Don't get me wrong, I totally disagree with the statements burkas and nijabs make, and what they represent. But, and sadly this must be a but, some women, Muslim, Christian, secular, etc, choose to be submissive to their men. Is it stupid? Hell yes it is, but that's their choice to make. If a woman wants to be submissive to their husband, fine, do whatever you like, but they should always be equal under the law.

   

Sure you can ban it. Canada bans 'hate speech' and where expression is a form of speech the burqha, as an expression, is hateful and oppressive to women and, therefore, should be banned as a violation of the Charter.

My justification is not that the burqha violates the rights of the wearer but that it is a tool of intimidation that violates the rights of women who see it. Just the same as wearing a KKK outfit in public violates the rights of racial and religious groups in and of itself as the garment itself is a tool of intimidation.

   

Agreed, but we should be pro-active in telling it as it is. The burka is a symbol of female subjugation, nothing else.

As the society that values free speech, we should be right on this.
The problem is that the left wing are too scared to challenge this stuff.

   

I see your point, some of them might be submissive, agreed. What about the rest of the women ?

   

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