Page interrupts throne speech
Taseko Taseko:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Show us your stength and turn your rep points back on.
Nope! Try holding up your side of the argument with facts and attention instead of posturing and general assholery.
I have but your general fuckwittedness and asshattery meant they were lost on you.
I fail to see how the party that won the election forming the gov't is "undemocratic" or in any way similiar to the middle-east situation. Nor do I understand how a pointless attention grabbing stunt is "brave". It's not like this little girl was risking her life, or even jail time. She lost a job that she was almost done with anyways. Pathetic.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Scape Scape:
Crap. Teh interwebz beat me to it.
Again.
Gunnair @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:20 pm
$1:
Kelly McParland: Cancel the election results. Brigette DePape is not happy
A new star, it would appear, has appeared in the firmament of Canadian political activism. Brigette DePape, just 21 and cute as a button, has arrived.
Ms. DePape is the young lady who smuggled a sign into the throne speech reading “Stop Harper.” It livened up an otherwise dull ceremony, got her picture in all the papers and got her fired from her job.
No matter about the job — the point was to ensure the world was aware of Ms. DePape’s political views, and that mission was accomplished big time. It was a master stroke of activist stuntery, in one fell swoop taking an unheralded university student from the humdrum halls of obscurity to the front page of the Toronto Star. Somewhere, Naomi Klein is hearing footsteps.
What next for Ms. DePape? Bungee-jumping from the CN Tower in support of more bike lanes? Careening from floe to floe as she personally rescues baby seals? Single-handedly storming the shores of Gaza carrying bullets foodstuffs for the freedom fighters of Hamas? Anything is possible when you’re young, opinionated and inventive.
Ms. DePape is a recent graduate of the University of Ottawa, that bastion of free speech, where they shout down speakers who hold views they don’t like. She took classes in “international development and globalization,” where they teach you about the West’s cruel failure to adequately support less fortunate nations while plotting ways to exploit their labour. Fair trade coffee is free at the door.
They must not have reached the part of the course where they learn about democracy. Or perhaps Ms DePape missed that day, skipping classes to strap herself to the stack of a coal-fired power plant. Democracy is a system in which people get together and vote on who they wish to elect as a government. The party with the most votes wins. Recently, Canada had an election, in which almost 15 million votes were cast for 19 parties, some of which even held views similar to Ms. De Pape’s. The Conservative party won by quite a wide margin. The NDP, a party which considers itself “progressive,” also did quite well.
If the NDP had won, its leader would have had the opportunity to shape Canada’s political agenda, and deliver the essence of its plans in the throne speech. That’s how democracy works. Unfortunately, Ms. De Pape appears not to be happy with the system. Something in it does not satisfy her needs. And what is the outcome of an election involving 15 million voters against the personal views of a 21-year-old student?
There were plenty of ways she could have registered her protest, but there is a lot of competition in the protest business, and standing on a sidewalk handing out pamphlets doesn’t get you on the front page of the Star. So Ms.De Pape worked up her sign, smuggled it into the Senate chamber and revealed it for the photographers. After being heaved out by the sergeant-at-arms, she was ready with a press release and a pal ready to schedule interviews with the media. Very slick. But what about her message?
Stop Harper? Why? Because an election doesn’t produce the result you want? And in favour of what alternative, a ballot of recent university graduates with strong views?
Ms. DePape says Canada needs a local version of the “Arab Spring.” Perhaps she hasn’t noticed, but the Arab Spring is a revolt by oppressed individuals willing to risk their lives for the right to elect their own leaders. They are willing to die so they can make the same kind of democratic decision that Canada just made in electing Mr. Harper.
Why does she want to stop that?
National Post
Taseko @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:34 pm
You might have just given us all a link. We all know the National Inquirer (I mean Post) has a certain bias, right?
Does this mean I get to post this?:
"Michael Moore, the high-profile American activist and filmmaker, has become a cheerleader of the Senate page who lost her job for her stunning protest against Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
"For a young person to do that and to do it peacefully, and quietly and with grace, I thought it was a very powerful moment," Moore told The Canadian Press on Sunday from New York.
"Every now and then there is an iconic moment where an individual takes action, and it inspires others to think about, you know, what else would we be doing."
I like Michael Moore better.
(Thank you for bringing this back to the topic again...I thought we'd lost it. regards.)
Gunnair Gunnair:
$1:
Kelly McParland: Cancel the election results. Brigette DePape is not happy
A new star, it would appear, has appeared in the firmament of Canadian political activism. Brigette DePape, just 21 and cute as a button, has arrived.
Ms. DePape is the young lady who smuggled a sign into the throne speech reading “Stop Harper.” It livened up an otherwise dull ceremony, got her picture in all the papers and got her fired from her job.
No matter about the job — the point was to ensure the world was aware of Ms. DePape’s political views, and that mission was accomplished big time. It was a master stroke of activist stuntery, in one fell swoop taking an unheralded university student from the humdrum halls of obscurity to the front page of the Toronto Star. Somewhere, Naomi Klein is hearing footsteps.
What next for Ms. DePape? Bungee-jumping from the CN Tower in support of more bike lanes? Careening from floe to floe as she personally rescues baby seals? Single-handedly storming the shores of Gaza carrying bullets foodstuffs for the freedom fighters of Hamas? Anything is possible when you’re young, opinionated and inventive.
Ms. DePape is a recent graduate of the University of Ottawa, that bastion of free speech, where they shout down speakers who hold views they don’t like. She took classes in “international development and globalization,” where they teach you about the West’s cruel failure to adequately support less fortunate nations while plotting ways to exploit their labour. Fair trade coffee is free at the door.
They must not have reached the part of the course where they learn about democracy. Or perhaps Ms DePape missed that day, skipping classes to strap herself to the stack of a coal-fired power plant. Democracy is a system in which people get together and vote on who they wish to elect as a government. The party with the most votes wins. Recently, Canada had an election, in which almost 15 million votes were cast for 19 parties, some of which even held views similar to Ms. De Pape’s. The Conservative party won by quite a wide margin. The NDP, a party which considers itself “progressive,” also did quite well.
If the NDP had won, its leader would have had the opportunity to shape Canada’s political agenda, and deliver the essence of its plans in the throne speech. That’s how democracy works. Unfortunately, Ms. De Pape appears not to be happy with the system. Something in it does not satisfy her needs. And what is the outcome of an election involving 15 million voters against the personal views of a 21-year-old student?
There were plenty of ways she could have registered her protest, but there is a lot of competition in the protest business, and standing on a sidewalk handing out pamphlets doesn’t get you on the front page of the Star. So Ms.De Pape worked up her sign, smuggled it into the Senate chamber and revealed it for the photographers. After being heaved out by the sergeant-at-arms, she was ready with a press release and a pal ready to schedule interviews with the media. Very slick. But what about her message?
Stop Harper? Why? Because an election doesn’t produce the result you want? And in favour of what alternative, a ballot of recent university graduates with strong views?
Ms. DePape says Canada needs a local version of the “Arab Spring.” Perhaps she hasn’t noticed, but the Arab Spring is a revolt by oppressed individuals willing to risk their lives for the right to elect their own leaders. They are willing to die so they can make the same kind of democratic decision that Canada just made in electing Mr. Harper.
Why does she want to stop that?
National Post
Gunnair @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:37 pm
Taseko Taseko:
You might have just given us all a link. We all know the National Inquirer (I mean Post) has a certain bias, right?
Does this mean I get to post this?:
"Michael Moore, the high-profile American activist and filmmaker, has become a cheerleader of the Senate page who lost her job for her stunning protest against Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
"For a young person to do that and to do it peacefully, and quietly and with grace, I thought it was a very powerful moment," Moore told The Canadian Press on Sunday from New York.
"Every now and then there is an iconic moment where an individual takes action, and it inspires others to think about, you know, what else would we be doing."
I like Michael Moore better.
I like Michael Moore too. A great director and activist, though rather sensationalist.
As far as the link, too bad. Don't fucking read the post if whining is all it will cause.
Taseko @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:54 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
I like Michael Moore too. A great director and activist, though rather sensationalist.
Yes, you are very right. But the movie "Bowling for Columbine" where he interviewed Charlton Heston, who was in the early stages of dementia made me just a little queasy.
Gunnair Gunnair:
As far as the link, too bad. Don't fucking read the post if whining is all it will cause.
It takes about two lines of reading the shit to figure out where it comes from. (I must confess I didn't read the whole thing.)
Lemmy @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:59 pm
Taseko Taseko:
Yes, you are very right. But the movie "Bowling for Columbine" where he interviewed Charlton Heston, who was in the early stages of dementia made me just a little queasy.
Does he get to use the dementia-defense for the stupid NRA shit he was spewing 15 years earlier?
Why do you deride him for expressing his opinion, right or wrong, yet think it's wonderful that princess expresses her views, right or wrong? Sort of hypocritical to condemn one person for sticking to their guns(pun intended) and voicing their opinion. One was defending his constitutional right and the other was calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government. I'd say that Moses poses the least threat.
Taseko @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:12 pm
Lemmy Lemmy:
Taseko Taseko:
Yes, you are very right. But the movie "Bowling for Columbine" where he interviewed Charlton Heston, who was in the early stages of dementia made me just a little queasy.
Does he get to use the dementia-defense for the stupid NRA shit he was spewing 15 years earlier?
Dementia may be his ONLY defense.
I was just a little queasy about that part of the film. I'm not saying Moore wasn't right in doing it, in fact I guess he had to. It would have been better for me, if Heston had all his faculties, and we know Moore would have been up to the challenge.
Taseko @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:15 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Why do you deride him for expressing his opinion, right or wrong, yet think it's wonderful that princess expresses her views, right or wrong? Sort of hypocritical to condemn one person for sticking to their guns(pun intended) and voicing their opinion. One was defending his constitutional right and the other was calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government. I'd say that Moses poses the least threat.
Since we were just talking about dementia; what the fuck are you talking about?
Perhaps you better see a doctor if it is becoming this problematic(ps read the post above mine you stupid shit)....ahhh fuck i just stepped in your POV, now I have to go scrape my shoe.
andyt @ Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:33 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
and the other was calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government.
is she serving coffee, or is that still your job?