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FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:
Unsound Unsound:
And Toewsed!
Au contraire! The Palestinians as a whole are not victims. What kind of victims strike at civilian targets? What kind of victims oppress their own minorities? (The aforementioned LGBT community, and I presume life is not pleasant if you are a Palestinian Christian.) What kind of victims take their own mentally disabled and turn them into unwilling suicide bombs? As I see it, the Palestinians are as much belligerents as the Israelis and will get no special consideration from me.
Hell, Israel is the more preferable of the two belligerents because Israel affords all its citizens equal rights before the law regardless of sexuality or religion while the Palestinian territories are either fascist (Gaza) or a kleptocracy (the West Bank, remember how much money Arafat pocketed for himself?)
Curtman Curtman:
False dichotomy. Bullies and thieves don't get my support. Either of the two sides.
If you can live with your own moral myopia and hypocrisy, then it is ultimately not my problem. And considering how the Arabs stole the Levant from the Byzantine Empire in the eighth century, I say turnabout is fair play. Hell, I am wondering when Greece will get occupied Constantinople and Anatolia back because it makes perfect sense if we are running by that line of logic.
Its interesting that you're focused on LGBT. Israel contends that Arafat was a homosexual. By your same argument that victims don't attack civilians, Israel has become ineligible for victim status.
andyt andyt:
But then you and others here never comment on Israeli aggression, that's always excused. It's exactly what 2Cdo accuses people who only complain about Israeli actions of - hypocrisy.

'Nuff said. And Og was always a bit of a jerk. The guy still owes me two spears and a mammoth pelt.
2Cdo @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:02 am
andyt andyt:
It's exactly what 2Cdo accuses people who only complain about Israeli actions of - hypocrisy.
And I see that you didn't clarify what "land grab".
andyt @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:06 am
Huh? The settlements. what else?
2Cdo @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:15 am
andyt andyt:
Huh? The settlements. what else?
They did give the Pals some of the settlements back a few years ago.
It reminds me of the time when Israel agreed to almost 90% of Arafats demands and he turned it down.
The Pals are not know nor never have been about peace. They've been strictly about getting rid of Israel, people like yourself don't get it.
If the muslims were to stop the violence they've been carrying on with for 1,400 years then there would be peace and not just with Israel. But they won't.
And the issue with Israel is just window dressing for the indisputable fact that islam is at war with everyone who isn't a muslim.
Just this year muslims have committed acts of violence or intimidation in the name of their religion in France, Norway, the United States, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, Thailand, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Malaysia, Phillipines, China, India, Singapore, Somalia, Ethiopia, Niger, Nigeria, Sudan, Algiers, Ghana, Kenya, Uganda, Myanmar, Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Turkey, Syria, Greece, Italy, Austria, Georgia, and many more.
And even if we evacuated all of the Jews from Israel and handed over the whole of the country to the muslims who here is so utterly blinded by their politically correct worldview to really believe that this will bring peace to every other place on earth that is confronted with aggressive islam?
Islam needs to renounce violence and THEN come talk to the rest of the world in good faith. In the meantime if Egypt and the usual band of thieves attack Israel then I hope the Israelis keep whatever they conquer.
Curtman @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:42 am
So since its all or nothing with some around here, you either support the Palestinians, or you support all the crazy shit that Bart believes.
2Cdo @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:48 am
Curtman Curtman:
So since its all or nothing with some around here, you either support the Palestinians, or you support all the crazy shit that Bart believes.
Or I'd rather just poke holes in you anti-Israel nonsense.
andyt @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:48 am
Now now, no reason to stoop to Toewsing just because someone else has.
2Cdo @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:50 am
andyt andyt:
Now now, no reason to stoop to Toewsing just because someone else has.
Ah, when andy is faced with a reality he denies he claims it's Toewsing.
Curtman Curtman:
So since its all or nothing with some around here, you either support the Palestinians, or you support all the crazy shit that Bart believes.
Nice how you phrased that.
Rational people support the Palestinians and etc. while people who support Israel and civilization in general are 'crazy'.
Thanks for making clear whose side you're on.
Curtman @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:03 am
andyt andyt:
Now now, no reason to stoop to Toewsing just because someone else has.
Why should the right wing extremists have all the fun? If that's the logic they go with then they should hold themselves to it at the very least. So by choosing to support Israel, they automatically support every wing-nut with an opinion on the situation who also supports Israels aggression.
2Cdo 2Cdo:
andyt andyt:
Now now, no reason to stoop to Toewsing just because someone else has.
Ah, when andy is faced with a reality he denies he claims it's Toewsing.

I am beginning to believe that any declaration of Toewsing is an implicit concession of defeat.
2Cdo 2Cdo:
andyt andyt:
Huh? The settlements. what else?
They did give the Pals some of the settlements back a few years ago.
They gave GAZA back a few years ago, and look what has happened since.
Curtman @ Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:15 am
martin14 martin14:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
andyt andyt:
Huh? The settlements. what else?
They did give the Pals some of the settlements back a few years ago.
They gave GAZA back a few years ago, and look what has happened since.
You're referring to the blockade that prevents them from receiving humanitarian aid? You're right, not good at all.
Gave it back. Hahaha. Good one.