Canada Kicks Ass
USA and the tar sands

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Newsbot @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:38 am

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<strong>Date: </strong> 2007-01-17 19:56:55
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RUEZ @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:38 am

If the US wants oil so bad let them get it in Alaska. Let them screw up their environment first.

   



Mr_Canada old @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:29 am

:evil:

Screw off America. Get your god damn paws off of Canadian oil.

$1:
Canada is already the top exporter of oil to the American market, exporting the equivalent of one million barrels a day — the exact amount that the oilsands industry in Alberta currently produces.

Your welcome. Stop asking for more already.

This reminds me of those Cartoons with A Picture of a Fat Uncle Sam drinking Oil..... Some of them would say 'Albertan Oil' on them.

   



ziggy @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:33 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
:evil:

Screw off America. Get your god damn paws off of Canadian oil.

$1:
Canada is already the top exporter of oil to the American market, exporting the equivalent of one million barrels a day — the exact amount that the oilsands industry in Alberta currently produces.

Your welcome. Stop asking for more already.

This reminds me of those Cartoons with A Picture of a Fat Uncle Sam drinking Oil..... Some of them would say 'Albertan Oil' on them.


You either sell it to them or let them buy the property up and do it themselves because they will and they wont care who's freakin oil or gas it is....money talks.

   



Mr_Canada old @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:36 am

ziggy ziggy:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
:evil:

Screw off America. Get your god damn paws off of Canadian oil.

$1:
Canada is already the top exporter of oil to the American market, exporting the equivalent of one million barrels a day — the exact amount that the oilsands industry in Alberta currently produces.

Your welcome. Stop asking for more already.

This reminds me of those Cartoons with A Picture of a Fat Uncle Sam drinking Oil..... Some of them would say 'Albertan Oil' on them.


You either sell it to them or let them buy the property up and do it themselves because they will and they wont care who's freakin oil or gas it is....money talks.
Fuck, I hate Capitalism.....

Bloody corperate sons of....

   



USCAdad @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:36 am

ziggy ziggy:
You either sell it to them or let them buy the property up and do it themselves because they will and they wont care who's freakin oil or gas it is....money talks.

That's why God created taxes. Nafta is an attempt to subvert God's will. :wink: 8)

   



ziggy @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:50 am

You think if the States was so hungry for energy they would be more serious about it.

$1:
"We need to look at additional pipelines from Canada to the U.S. as a new source of supplier, a growing source of supply," said Bob Greco of the American Petroleum Institute.


I havent seen any plans in the works for additional pipelines to the states from anywhere in Alberta,we have also only built one new compressor station in Alberta this last year(WIN energy,chapel rock station)and thats just for the newly discovered CBM beds in the Cowley Lundbreck region that have barely been exploited yet.

I can see pipelines heading to southern refineries in 3 to 5 years but nothing sooner,we dont have the people or technology to expand the tarsands or exploit the huge CBM feilds yet in an environmentally safe manner.

For Mr.C;lots of the juniour companies that do the exploration and take the risks are American or have lots of Yank bucks to put up for it.

If their willing to put up the coin then more power to them.

   



dog77_1999 @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:24 am

I can see why US officials want Canada to produce more oil. After all, Canada is one of the few countries that have oil who don't have major problems. It also give the US leverage against Venuzula and Iran.

I will agree with you Canadians. I wouldn't expand unless the environment is safe.

   



sandorski @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:28 am

We should sell them every drop. Meanwhile developing the successor to Oil. Then we can Sell them that too.

   



Sapper @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:19 am

I run into this thinking all the time but what no one seems to realize is that oil is a world commodity and the pie is not infinitely big. I've even had to explain the concept to my Russian engineers who think, "so what, Putin should shut the taps off to Europe when ever he wants."

What they don't realize is that when a country hoards it's resources it drives the price of the commodity up throughout the world. Venazuela may be able to offer cheaper gas to it's people but when the price of goods imported in become to expensive for the people to buy or not avaiable at all, because of the cost to produce it, then watch the people look around and ask "Where's my IPod battery?".

   



Sapper @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:26 am

sandorski sandorski:
We should sell them every drop. Meanwhile developing the successor to Oil. Then we can Sell them that too.


I agree we need to develope other sources of energy. We need to develope Nuclear power in Saskatchewan to support the tar sands. It needs to be mined refined, utilized and discarded with the best methods possible to minimize environmental impact. But it needs to be done.

The need for energy is not going away and the demand will only increase.

Meanwhile, all residents of the province should be provided real insentives to minimize power consumption from the power grid. The additional power sales to the US would benefit everyone.

   



Numure @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:16 am

The way I see this, there is a way (Unproven but with great potential) to reduce Greenhouse gas emissions from tar sand oil production, nuclear power. I'll dig up the many articles on this.

IF the Americans can pay for the more enviormentaly friendly way of producing, then good job for Alberta.

   



Numure @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:21 am

Sapper Sapper:
Meanwhile, all residents of the province should be provided real insentives to minimize power consumption from the power grid. The additional power sales to the US would benefit everyone.


I agree completly. Hydro-Québec has had dozens of programs to lower user consumption of energy in the province to sell more to the US. As it is right now, it costs us 0.04$ to produce a MW. Hydro sells that MW to Québec residents at about 0.08$. And then we sell it to Americans at about 0.21-0.30$/MW.

That's why we are pushing to maximise our Hydro Potential with the construction of Eastmain and La Sarcelle.

   



tritium @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:01 am

8O Cut them off and we will be the next Iraq.

   



Sapper @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:03 am

Cut them off and we may as well cut off our arms.

   



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