A Comment on the Terrorism in Toronto

In the past couple of days the RCMP and CSIS have saved Canada from international terror by arresting 12 adults and five minors who were going to conduct some explosions in southern Ontario. This band of al queda inspired terrorizers are said to have been in possession of three tons of fertilizer which is three times as much as was used by Americans to blow up that federal building in Oklahoma City. 
 
And where did the terrorizers get the three tons of explosive materials? Why from an undercover operative of the RCMP/CSIS crew. He had infiltrated the loosley knit group of terrorizers and made the arrangements for them. No sooner did the RCMP/CSIS people deliver the goods than they busted the terrorizers for possessing it. 
 
Back in early May the head of CSIS informed a government committee that terrorists will be making attacks inside Canada. How could Mr. Judd be so right, eh? Must be one hell of a sharp spy catcher guy for sure. His presentation of the need for increased budget could not have come at a more appropriate time, eh? 
 
All of the above is a quote from <a href="http://www.mytown.ca/passingtimes/">http://www.mytown.ca/passingtimes/</a>--- 
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." 
(Albert Einstein)

In predicting our government's response to this incident, it seems the only way to save us from "terrorism" will be to become a fascist state. I can't speak for all Canadians, but I'd rather take my chances with terrorists than have "Big Brother" looking over our shoulders to make sure we're "good little citizens." If anyone doubts that were already a surveillance society, I need only point out that the people arrested were probably under surveillance for some time. If they are homegrown terrorists, then I'll bet dollars to doughnuts they had their right to privacy violated long before there was any probable cause. I find that MUCH scarier than the bombs they allegedly had. Do you really believe "big brother" cares about you tiffs with your girl- or boy-friend? In the US we prosecuted for the Watergate abuses of government-gathered information. That is as it should be. This is a war. We are being led into a fascist state. Day by day, year by year, our freedoms will be taken from us if we allow it, and we have been allowing it thus far. This trend has to stop and it has to stop NOW. The alternative is that our children will grow up to live under a regime every bit as repressive as Hitler's Germany, or Stalin's USSR.,/i> Polemics It would be far better to kick out any government that tries to involve Canada as a partner in the USA's current Imperial Crusade. Face it, "the terrorists" are mostly people who are sick of the US sticking its nose where it doesn't belong and terrorizing people all over the planet. Some of them are fighting back. In much of the world they are freedom fighters. Here in the West we call them terrorists because it's much easier to demonize an enemy with a nasty name. How many of us asked our government to get involved in the coup in Haiti, or combat in Afghanistan? Ask yourself; ask your neighbor; take a poll. Chances are pretty good nobody did. So why did we invade Haiti in 2004? Why did we put our troops in a combat role in Afghanistan? If we were truly bringing them a better way of life then there would be no cause for them to hate us or to want to bomb us. That many of them do hate us should tell us we are doing something terribly wrong. That many might be our own citizens should tell us how desperate the situation of their relatives in the other country must be to arouse such fanatical sympathy. Do they "hate freedom"? Quite the opposite I'd say. They hate oppression, and so should we. If we truly want to end terrorism in Canada, we should divorce Canada from any participation in The US wars of aggression. Indeed we should be standing against such wars. We should be championing liberty by having it. I would much rather see us do that as a means of ending terrorism in Canada than see us turn into an Orwellian police state. Just how much are we willing to pay for "safety"? I contend that we've paid far too much already. And you really believe this operation started with Harper's election?

Couldn't agree more. The elite's war for oil and dollar hegamony is becoming more unpopular. Our switch from a law-enforcement role in Afghanistan to one of muscle for the US is unpopular and becoming more unpopular all the time. The elite need to remind us of what we're supposed to believe these invasions and occupations are all about.I guess you have a death wish. The freedoms for which the US is fighting would be snuffed ouot in a minute by the Islamofascists. If you don't enjoy living free, there's a few countries for you, spanning the India-Pakistan border to the Atlantic. And not Iraq, Afghanistan or Israel.

"And you really believe this operation started with Harper's election?"

Of course not. It started decades ago. Mulroney really got the ball rolling when he sold our country out to US interests by bringing in the FTA. Martin was every bit as rotten as Mulroney and much sneakier; he tried to sell us out under the table. Harper (better known as Bush Lite) is just continuing what is now a tradition of destroying Canada. However he seems to be trying to outdo his predecessors at it, so it seems only fair to characterize him as particularly treasonous.

empson7, they were snooping around the Pickering generating station. AND, they were in the country illegally. They were not proven to have been terrorists, but you are being deceptive as they could have had that intention and were in the country illegally.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

Freedom fighters my ass.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

Why is everyone so surprised?? I have kept on posting evidence that the elite DO NOT BELIEVE there is country called Canada to destroy--only one world. Naturally they frequently contradict themselves. 
 
As long as people refer to minority immigrants who live on the fringes of mainstream, respectable society as "home grown" the globalists will keep laighing their asses off. 
 
It is our immigration system that is responsible, as it is for many things. Want proof? Here is the proof--CSIS SAYS SO: 
 
".....Intelligence officials believe at least 50 terror groups now have some presence in the North American nation and have long complained that the country’s immigration laws and border security are too weak to weed out potential terrorists." 
 
 
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10663276/?GT1=8211">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10663276/?GT1=8211</a> 
 
 
 
 
--- "True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". - 
 
-Patrick J. Buchanan

I agree comletely with wasjod, and as for our "safety" don't count on stockwell day that << waste of skin >> count on yourself. Wasjod I got mine all cleaned and polished up, and they are all that makes me safe. As for army guy it shows that he spent years in the military because it seems he doesn't question any political bullshit he's told. On the subject of our arrest and shooting,--- well try it!

I have believed for years that the true terrorists of this world wear suits and sit in offices and boardrooms across the globe.

Of course, no one ever considers going after them. They are after all well moneyed and "respected" members of the communitee: international bankers, lawyers, politicians, and businessmen.

No one cares when they ruin thousands of lives in foreign nations, or poison their rivers, or pollute their soil with toxic waste, depleted uranium, or any other of a thousand carcinogens.

No one cares when for the sake of a good quaterly earnings report, men, women, and children in underdeveloped countries are worked even harder than usual in sweatshops that are owned and run by these suited parasites.

These people have watched their countries be raped and pillaged by foreigners for decades, and we as a nation are surprised when they rise up, get in our collective faces and say "enough is enough"?

These people have no standing armies, no weapons of mass destruction, no strategic bombers, no blue water navies, no means of retaliation beyond actually going in and doing it themeselves with whatever they can put together.

More importantly, they have no voice.

They have no say in what our glabally connected suits decide to do in their homelands, no voice that these suits will hear beyond the crack of an AK-47, or the sudden thunder of a crude explosive device.

I am not saying I agree with their means, but I can to a degree sympathize with them.

It is our own cultural ignorance, arrogance, and apathy that has forced these people to believe that they have no other option than to take direct action.

The rich wage their war by proxy, and never get their hands covered in the blood of their victims. They hire others to do that.

The poor have to die to prove their point,

And we have the nerve to call them them "terrorists".

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Let me restate my last comment, the RCMP/CSIS obtained the ammonium nitrate and delivered it to one or more of the suspects. Then they were arrested.

Isn't this exactly like planting evidence? Lets try to keep our eyes on the ball, eh?

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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
(Albert Einstein)

And armyguy will be right on point to fire the first round at us.

This is an OLD trick of the RCMP and CSIS, but especially the RCMP as they've been around longer. I'm no fan of white sovereigntists, but in the eighties that was the chosen 'terror group'. The RCMP would send in a guy, much as the FBI did in the US, then they'd keep prodding the group members. The problem was that these people were organized-they just weren't violent. So the RCMP would become the 'ringleader', and we can note that most of these are teenagers. The RCMP would conduct all the plans and set everything in mention, just want the others to 'show up'. At demonstrations these undercover cops were always the first ones to throw rocks through windows, then disappear. Police were always told which guy among the dissenters was their own man.

As a post above states, though, that doesn't mean there aren't groups 'out to get us'. The surest way to combat that is to get the hell out of Afghanistan and Haiti and stop supporting the US. WE invaded Afghanistan-they didn't invade us (and didn't attack the US-the british didn't bomb america when the IRA set off bombs in London and most of the IRA ringleaders live in Boston). And if I were in a foreign country whose government had just overthrown the canadian government, I think I'd be thinking hard on what I should be doing. Moreover, canadians would be calling me a hero if I were fighting that country for Canada's freedom. What a difference a different colour flag makes.

"Isn't this exactly like planting evidence?" I believe the term you're looking for is 'entrapment', and there is no such thing in Canadian law.--- "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Let us not forget that the word "invasion" is a no-no in politically correct propaganda language. The correct word is "liberation", that has been used by every colonizing power in history.

The Americas were not "invaded" and "colonized" by the Europeans, but liberated to "spread the True Faith and the word of God". They also took the gold to finance the liberation and protection of more continents. Indochina was not a colony, but a "protected territory". Now, of course, protection is also a no-no, so the world has become "a globally competitive market economy", which is not a colony, but where "free people are allowed to make free economic choices for their own wealth craetion activities." Guided along by the experts of multinationals, who bless them with
"wealth creating foreign investment"

The Nazis and their satellites, inclunding my native Hungary, didn't invade the Soviets, but liberated them from communist rule. In turn, the Soviets didn't occupy Eastern Europe, but liberated it from the nazis, as later the capitalists liberated the Soviet state capitalist system and replaced it with "free market enterprise", under the same bosses.

Pardon me, not "bosses", but "leaders". Only labour unions have "bosses". Corporations have "leaders".

Afghanistan and Iraq, again, have not been invaded and occupied, but liberated. This is why they're so happy with the "liberators".

Ed Deak.

Close, but not quite Ed, in politically correct terms, the Soviet Union 'invaded' Afghanistan and the Chinese invaded North Korea. Yet the US 'liberated' Guatamala and Nicaragua from their evil democratically elected 'regimes'. In other words, if its 'our' side, the term is liberation, if its an opposing ideology, it's invasion. That's pretty universal too. Just like Nazis were attacking 'terrorism' in Austria and Poland, THEY called it 'liberation', we rightly call it imperialism.