Family of slain Toronto teen remembers their 'bright light'

Written By: jensonj
Date: 2005-12-29 08:40:32
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The Grade 10 student was gunned down around dinnertime Monday during a shootout between two groups of young men on busy Yonge Street, which was packed with other innocent bystanders. She had been shopping with her mother.

The teen was the "best friend" of her sister Alison and she protected her brother Elliot "like a mother hen," the statement said.

Creba, who lived in the east end of Canada's largest city, was described as a top student and excellent athlete

Creba was 'the funniest, prettiest and all around nicest person'

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War and crime are the ultimate forms of "competition" and the daily growing violence, terrorism, roadrage etc. are the results.

I've never owned a handgun and have no intention of ever owning one, as I think they're the toys for nutcases, but if any of our, also, harebrained politicans believe that "banning" handguns is going to solve this problem, any more than the so called "registration" of rifles has done, they're dreaming.

In the economy the name of the game is "mergers", and "globalization", and "hostile takeovers", and "outsourcing", resulting in the destitution and death of millions.

In the streets it is gang warfare, that kills a few.

This poor little girl died by the hands of criminals, just as 30,000 children will die of starvation today, also by the hands of criminals, stealing the food from their mouths, for their own enrichment.

Which is more excusable and why ? Let's hear our brave anonyms come up with some brilliant ideological excuses for either.

Ed Deak, Big Lake. BC.

Gather up all the gang members AND their associates, and take them to Iraq. Give them all M-16's with only one clip, of course, tell them "Let's see how you do with someone shooting back at you" and drop them off at the hottest areas of insurgent hostilities. Be sure to give them a change of underwear and don't forget to put a very large american flag on their uniforms so that they are not mistaken for anyone other than american, no matter what country they are gathered up from.

I must express my condolences to the family asmy first thoughts

It has always struck me as odd how we as a society are re-active to social condition that give rise to behaviors and not proactive for the sake of prevention
But then i am an ildealist in that and other regards

It also seems to me we must ask the question cui bono: Who benefits?

certailly not the public at large!

it is almost as if conditions are 'set' soas to promote dissentions.

sopmeof our songs ask similar questions as i
Peter Seeger's where have allthe flowers gone?"
or Lenorad Cohen's poetry
philosopgers, poets and I

who listens?

Sure, the kids in gangs never recieve a moments notice in papers, they live in poverty stricken neighbourhoods with few to no services. They are no older than their 'victims' and often turn out to be victims themselves. This is a tragedy, yet a tragedy that could well have been averted had we looked at the causes in the first place.

The Liberals have solemnly pledged to do absolutely nothing to stop this sort of crime because that would mean going after the criminals and everyone knows that the Liberals have no moral authority to go after criminals because they are criminals themselves - they've stolen millions of dollars from the Canadian people.
So instead, the Liberals are going to go after people who obey the law by writing up new laws - and it will appear as though they're 'doing something'. Canucks are such suckers for this tomfoolery from the Liberal party. Pay your taxes.

justme
I voted that post down and reported it as abuse
I offer an apology it is that kind of postandposter that should be banned.

What I've done may not mend any fences
and i didit any way.

I vote down and report abuse where i see it
Please accept my sincerest apologies for the idiot who posted it
Dio

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Your mantra has been your opinions are stifled due to their contrary nature, when they are actually stifled for being without perceivable foundation

did toronto and canada have these problems before it's present day demographic make-up? no.

did the united states always have it's over-all high crime rate before the late 1960's and the "cultural" and "demographic" revolution that took root during that period? no, it didn't. this is a statistical hard fact and is undeniable.

canada, and specifically toronto, have now developed a demographic which the united states developed previously. people in the united states realized what (or rather who) the main troublemakers were and are, and were roundly denounced as insular, racist red-necks, where-as canadians were far more tolerant and enlightened LOL!

canada is just behind the curve regarding these issues.

and what's this stuff some people say about not enough attention or money being spent on the alleged root causes? bullshit, at least as far as the united states is concerned. since lyndon johnson promoted his "great society" i.e. a social democratic welfare state, the united states, at all levels of government, has spent VAST sums. this situation hasn't changed appreciably though richard nixon (probably the last great "liberal" president) through reagan, clinton and bush. gw is not a real conservative and continues to encourage and promote the spending of vast sums on entitlement programs aimed at the so-called disadvantaged. all this time and money with little to show for it. that's because, as any honest person who's lived through growing up under difficult circumstances (like me) the root causes of anti-social behavior are the break-down and disintegration of the family unit, leiniant judiciary, ghettoization and the lack of condemation by society as a whole of the often backward culture that develops there, and economic stagnation. liberal social experimentation (at least in the united states) over the last 40+ years has done NOTHING to alleviate these conditions, and in fact, encourage and perpeduate them.

in the mid 1990's a certain big american city got rave reviews for drastically lowering it's crime rate including bringing it's homicide rate down to historic lows (far lower tha toronto today.)that city has now seen it's crime rate shoot back up. everyone wondered what was done 10 years ago to achieve the historically low crime rate. everything from anti-gang police intelligence units to funding for neighborhood community centers was looked at. it has now been universally accepted that the historically low crime rates of 10 years ago were the result of locking up behind bars large numbers of gangsters for extended periods, resulting in a far safer environment for the law-abiding majority of every race and ethnic group. but those cons eventually get out, and after 10 years that's what's occurring,and they're going back to their old ways in addition to a new crop of up-and-coming gangsters. unfortunately, the leadership and judiciary of today have once again developed a soft approach towards crime and anti-social behavior and the people who are going to pay dearly for this aren't the individuals in leadership positions or their children, but the decent,hard-working majority in crime infested neighborhoods, and innocents who get caught in the middle of a drive-by.

the crime rate over-all in big american cities is considerably lower today than the 1970's and continues to decline. that period coincidentally(?) was the high-point of ultra-liberal social experimentation in the united states and the results, as any honest, intelligent observor would agree,were not just negative but disastrous. america is still living down the rep it developed from that period.

i'm neither a conservative nor liberal, i have and use common-sense. the right-wing and ultra-conservatives are responsible for their own egregious behavior.

You've got your cause and effect as well as your timeline totally screwed up.

The highest crime period coincided with the highest unemployment and stagflation period, both the result of neo-classical economics being adopted.

Crime rates follow unemployment rates in lockstep. The current criminal group posing as political leaders and "lead" economists require a large body of unemployed in order to keep working class wages falling and executive wages skyrocketing. The result is an unemployment rate today of (if calculated using the same criteria we used during the great depression) is at almost 40%. The Great Depression had *only* 30% unemployment!

Poverty breeds crime and it is the criminal elite that cause the poverty.

i understand what you're saying and it's PARTIALLY true, but like all good propaganda, you're leaving alot out and generalizing.

you're correct in saying the economy of (particually) the 1970's was bad and this contributed to some degree to crime and societal break-down,but it by no means is the only or even (in my opinion) main reason.

judging by the (questionable) statistics you threw out, you would agree that during 1930's great depression the economy was at least almost as bad as you think it is today. why was the crime rate of that period very low (a golden age) compared to the post 1960's united states? aside from economics, what occurred in the united states from the mid to late 1960's onwards that didn't occur during the 1930's? this would seem to be the main cause for societal break-down and rampant, violent anti-social and un-civil behavor, not economics.

nice try though.

and auto-centered culture that's developed during this time frame also contributed heavily to obviously urban decay but also a feeling of alienation many people in society share, family and community break down, and increased (opportunity) crime.

What a horrible thing to have happened, my condolences to her family. I hope youlock up whoever shot her and throw away the key. 
 
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Liberals and NDP'ers classify poor people as criminals who are unable to take responsibility for themselves, again.

The reality is that not all poor people are criminals, and not all criminals are poor people.

-Most poor people do not go around indiscriminately shooting into crowds.

-Liberal Party members are very wealthy but they still commit crimes in order to become wealthier.