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Ed is one of an all but extinct breed of the "old school" Canadian. Honor means something to them. Not like the "new breed" which has taken over as of late. The Beluga Stronachs and Jackal Laytons only wish they could be worthy of shining Ed's shoes. YEARS ago, the NDP was something to be proud of. Now it's not even recognizable. Only the name remains. Once the "Ed Broadbents" are gone, the end has finally occured.

   

**And thanks any way we would prefer to not have the U.S. version, enforced upon us.**

Not as nice as YOUR version of democracy by threat of total annihilation Saddam forced on people? Or as nice as the subterfuge you are engaged in presently, however vainly, to force upon what few of them you still can, via Damascus, by use of terror tactics upon an unarmed civilian populace? Or France? Or Russia? Or Germany? How many colonys have we all had (notacolony.ca where are you?)...you get to count those from two nations you lucky devils ...seems you last occupied Hong Kong on behalf of England when you were British subjects and you helped them to subjugate the Dutch people before that and so on back. Modern era, present day after you were absorbed by La Francophonie, the African nations got their turn dealing with your "democracy". Always a puppet of some European crown. Helping it to enforce it's view of what a "new world order" would be according to their dogma. Haven't noticed any such assistance on your part subjugating any American colonies. Why? We do not have them. And you can't even help in any other simple "neighborly" matters, so we'd probably not even ask if we did have such things as colonies. I'm thinking of all kinds of colonies of yours right now past and present, but oddly enough I can't think of a single American "colony" anywhere. There are a few locales who wish to join the country, but no one being "subjugated". I don't even remember America "offering" to share any "democracy" with you Whelean. I think we sort of figured that if you are p.o.'ed that the Iraqi's were liberated from you and the Ivory coast rebelled against your regimes and countless others have thrown off your shackles as well that you are probably not much into "democracy". And as you are such kind, polite neighbors we thought we would not bother you with such "trivial" concepts. What democracy? Didn't your Prime Minister (King Paul) just buy the only vote (Princess Belinda) representing an entire riding in Toronto yesterday?

   

May I offer a suggestion?

Let's turn off the lights, depart this thread, and come back to debate
another day.

It grieves me to see this unpleasantness following after the tribute
to Ed Broadbent. He ... we ... deserve better.

Good night.

---
Mary

   

Agreed. Ed was the last of the good guys in the NDP. It has no more of like quality sadly. Cheers to you Ed.

   

Now that really is something else.

   

So much for the Molson/Coors thing, eh.

   

"Oh please. It's about power, and Ed is betraying his party's constituents"

Oddly enough your principles only go one way. How loud did you cry out when Baby Beluga Stronach jumped ship and betrayed her constituents?

   

All politicians have to eventually retire.Ed has alot of
verbal & political miles on the ol' odometer, and has
personal/family concerns.Cheers to Ed... he was and
is the epitome of an honorable politician.

But without Layton, we'd have no new-school hope.
Jack's not stagnant, and is very open to all ideas, including old-school ones.

The only hope against the corporatized/militarized/americanized
Martin/Harper coin of false alternative
(both turning us into the 51st state) is
the NDP, and to a limited extent, the Bloc & Green party.
Hopefully the American manifest destiny heads
south or extinguishes itself with a lucid
realization of a reasonable, compassionate,
humanitarian, 'people over profits' shift to the left.

(and no, that socialism/capitalism fusion doesn't
lead to poverty as we know by observing the history
of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, Holland, Austria,
Belgium, etc. - just slightly less headroom for billionaire CEO's who control the disinformation campaign of fickle trickle downisms.The evidence of the massively
growing poverty-stricken populational segment in the U.S.
is now in, and the Bush administration is guilty of
profits over people sin)

   

Also, alot of old-school NDP supporters have been<br />
dissappointed with the apparent 1 notch shift to<br />
the right, but it's not so simple.<br />
<br />
The NDP of yester-year was frequently prohibitionist and<br />
engaged in a blindly compassionate spending orgy.The best<br />
way to destroy a party's reputation and effectiveness is<br />
to have it be oblivious to the necessity for balanced<br />
budgets while being dogmatically anti-profit and morally<br />
dictatorial.<br />
<br />
Since Layton has arrived, local, provincial and federal<br />
New Democrats have been rejuvenated with a moderate<br />
injection of multi-spectrum libertarianism.A healthy<br />
respect for small & moderate sized businesses, with cautious monitoring of the big-wigs.The best way to help<br />
the poor is to not be one of them.The worst way to<br />
help the poor is to empty your bank account like a<br />
drunken Robin Hood.<br />
<br />
Ruthless criminalization of adult soft-drug consumers<br />
is now unapprecitated within the NDP, and that's a<br />
significant elevation for personal/behavioural liberty.<br />
<br />
On a more innovate, less simplistic political spectrum,<br />
the NDP is one notch further right economically, but one notch lower - farther away from totalitarianism.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.politicalcompass.org">http://www.politicalcompass.org</a><br />
<br />
<br />
If the NDP ends up close to the Dalai Lama,<br />
maybe that's good for future success.<br />
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Spell Check :

1) "Unappreciated"
2) "Innovative"

   

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