Why I Am A Terrorist

The civil war is estimated to have killed 60,000 Afghans. So between '89 and 2001 about 5,000 were dying each year. So yeah, 2000 this year is bad but it is 3,000 people better than it was.

"When you finally accept the truth of 911 would you agree to attack the states."

Which truth? Your truth, the 'official' truth, or the one I researched and made up my own mind about?

" . . .Only thing is that while you and people like you are slow to learn, others are losing their lives."

And people would be losing their lives, even if we weren't there. Did you not see CBC last night? Afghan refugee camps, that the Taliban wouldn't or couldn't feed? *That* is our mission there, only the Taliban stand in the way of us helping people. The can let us through, or they can try to stop us.

"The Taliban was never accused of planning the attacks anyway."

Reading hidden meaning into what I say again? They were, and still are harbouring people wanted for terrorist acts against us. See 'UN resolutions' above.

"You obviously think that babies dont get killed in warfare and if you google "babies war" you'll get lots of results."

You obviously have a short memory. I know and can describe in stark detail the smell of burning babies. Doesn't mean I killed them. Let's do your search:

>Sleaze Roxx: Your hard rock and heavy metal resource, including biographies, discographies, band lineups, reviews and audio.<

>Amazon.com: War Babies: Music: Hall & Oates by Hall & Oates.<

>But, couldn’t we just substitute “babies” for “the environment”? Or, puppies? Or - aids, disease, hunger, terror, declining birth rates, war, and so forth? ...<

All from the first page. Wow, I can see why you wouldn't post a link to Hall and Oates.

"Not propaganda but a fact. "

So, which part of the Geneva convention do I violate? The part about 'free speech' again?

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

"The Taliban were still massacring people into 2001 right prior to the invasion in the north due to the civil war."

That's their fight not ours. We have no business sticking our noses in the affairs of Afghanistan. We were not asked by the Afghan people to go in there, and the officially stated reason for going in - the 9-11 attacks - is an obvious lie with mountains of evidence to back the claim up. On the flip side, no convincing evidence exists that backs up the governments reasons for going to war in Afghanistan.

"Mom always taught me to finish what I start, whether is was raping the fence, or raping all the food on my plate."

I'd hate to see what happens after you've realized half way through doing something that you've made a horrible mistake which will end up killing you should you follow through.

Me, if I realize that I've screwed up, I take action to reverse the mess I made.

There's NO shame in admitting that the Afghanistan war was a big mistake. The right thing to do is to get the hell out.

"Sorry if ideas are threatening to you." 
 
I was expressing a concern for your state of mind. 
 
"Name one." 
 
The amendments made to the criminal code of Canada since 9/11 permanently gives the government additional powers of arrest and eavesdropping never before seen in the history of Canada. 
 
If the terrorists hate us for our freedoms, then the terrorists must be our own government. I don't see anyone else taking away our freedoms - do you? 
 
"Another case in point, air travel is done through corporations, not the government who only regulates it. Our Government does not have a 'no fly' list, so it's the corporations who are using the US one. And there is no 'right to fly' in our constitution." 
 
You are wrong. The no fly list was imposed on air travel by the Canadian government. 
 
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/08/05/lapierre-050805.html?print">http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/08/05/lapierre-050805.html?print</a> 
 
You are right however on one thing, that there's no right to travel explicitly mentioned in the constitution. In fact, the constitution gives us no rights at all, however that fact does not make government abuse towards its people legitimate or acceptable. You constantly defend the military invasion of Afghanistan because its government was abusing the Afghan people. Why don't you instead defend the Canadian people who are being abused by the Canadian government? 
 
"Unless, they really didn't like the public executions, the child sex slavery, the serfdom to warlords . . ." 
 
What in the hell are you talking about???? I've asked you before, what evidence do you have that Afghanistan had anything to do with the official reasons given for attacking the country? The reason stated was "9-11" and NOTHING else, but so far NO evidence has been provided showing that Afghanistan had anything to do with the attacks. All you refered me to, is a video tape showing a man who may or may not be Bin Laden (did not look like him to me) mumbling some words that were improperly translated into English. 
 
The Fake bin Laden Video Tape 
<a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html">http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html</a>

"I was expressing a concern for your state of mind." 
 
So, because my opinions are formed through my own exploration and free though, I'm crazy?

I've been called worse.

"The amendments made to the criminal code of Canada since 9/11 permanently gives the government additional powers of arrest and eavesdropping never before seen in the history of Canada." 
 
Which would be . . .? I am familiar with the act passed after 9/11, under which no one has been convicted and which is about to expire, but I am not familiar with this one. i am also familiar with the fact that our government has been eavesdropping on us for many years, they just do it more openly now. 
 
"You are wrong. The no fly list was imposed on air travel by the Canadian government. " 
 
I stand partially corrected. 
 
"Why don't you instead defend the Canadian people who are being abused by the Canadian government?" 
 
I do, just that is not the subject at hand. I guess 'Why I am a terrorist' is because I don't believe the conspriacy theories. 
 
"...but so far NO evidence has been provided showing that Afghanistan had anything to do with the attacks." 
 
Well, you are free to rebut the evidence. Here, how about this: 
 
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/index.html">http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/index.html</a> 
 
Paying special attention to "Khalid Sheikh Mohammed": 
 
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/timeline5.html">http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/timeline5.html</a> 
 
Better still, watch the whole documentary. It's very good and worth a couple hours of your time. Afghanistan harboured him after 9/11, along with Bin Laden. He was captured in 2003. I look foreward to a whatreallyhappend link debunking the documentary and Mohammed's testimony before the 9/11 comission.--- "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Whelan, it is not that hard to understand. The Saudi Arabian administration was an ally of the United States so there was no need to attack that country. They were less interested in investigating 9/11 than "regime change" against administrations they had been unable to bully. They simply using the emotional response among the American people to pursue the "Full Spectrum Domiance" plan without suffering the opposition that such invasions might have otherwise created.

I can understand why conspiracy theories about 9/11 are so compelling. The events of that date could not have been more opportune for those who supported the concept of American global dominance enforced by military power.

"There's NO shame in admitting that the Afghanistan war was a big mistake. The right thing to do is to get the hell out."

And there is no shame in admitting that if we want to save lives because of the failed harvest and destroy the opium crop in the south and east, we have to tell young men and women they may have to die for that goal.

I believe that the only failure in Afghanistan is that the Canadian public forgot the horror of 2001:09:11 and why we went there to begin with.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Chapeau!

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Unfortunately I have been unable to find anything that verifies the number of deaths you provide for the civil war period. After the Taliban took over in 1994 the numbers reported tend to be scores rather than thousands, mainly in skirmishes between the Taliban and the United Front. This suggests that the Taliban suppression did bring some security to the civilian population, even if the form of Islamic law they practiced was harsh.

The question in the end may be is the security achieved by the suppression of personal freedom worse than constant insecurity? Politicians in Canada, Britain and the U.S. are arguing that we must be willing to give up personal freedom for physical security against "terrorism" because there are so many terrorists out there with the capacity to take over our countries. Do you believe it? And do you believe that ordinary Canadians and Americans would allow that to happen? Would we not become "terrorists" to fight for what we believe? I spoke to a "granny" today who told me that if anyone tried to takeover her country she would be one of the first with the bomb under her dress to attack the oppressors.

Un-freaking-believable!

“And there is no shame in admitting that if we want to save lives because of the failed harvest and destroy the opium crop in the south and east, we have to tell young men and women they may have to die for that goal.”

You believe that do you?
Highlight these words “if’
“we”
“want”
“to”
“save”
“lives”
“men” and “women”
“May have to die”??????

There is no shame in “having” to tell young men and women they may have to die to achieve the goal, they didn’t set, and will never be reached?
That way lays deceit and insanity.
And any one who holds such a belief based on remembering the horrific event of 9/11 as done by those accused has conveniently taken the rule of law and disrespected it to the point of sanctioning fascism: State as corporate flunky.

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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch

“So, what effect to our reputation around the world do you see, if Canada were to leave Afghansitan in worse condition that we found it?

Pennsylvanian Dutch aside: Throw momma from the train, a kiss

I see folks identifying the actions of the elected government of Canada as action supported by the citizenry, and strongly tied to our neighbours to the south.
Especially in light of Condi’s visit to grandstand her presidents agendas.

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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch

Diogenes

Why do I see your posts with text like this?

“if’

It's hard to read. Something's busted either on my end or yours.

Note: If I post using html, the "if" is wrapped in quotes in the preview. When I read your posts however, I see the character codes around the "if".

Innes,

Does the "granny" know about the CCCE?

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

"I believe that the only failure in Afghanistan is that the Canadian public forgot the horror of 2001:09:11 and why we went there to begin with." The problem is that the Canadian people remember 9-11 and they don't like what they see. Even under the assumption that the event wasn't an inside job, which it was, what we've seen is nothing but senseless killing that's only making the situation of hatred far worse than before 9-11. To make matters worse (or better depending on what side of the camp you're in), millions of Canadians, Americans, and millions world wide now know that the 9-11 event was an inside job designed to create fear and anger as a means to kick off a series of wars. Both Canadians and Americans know that their leaders are lying to them on just about everything, and they don't like it, and that's a good thing. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqrn5x2_f6Q">YouTube - Controlled Demolition Expert and wtc7</a>