Why I Am A Terrorist

Written By: 4Canada
Date: 2006-09-05 12:12:00
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If that is what it means, then I cannot support our troops. I cannot wish them well if their purpose is conquer other people, and plunder the wealth of other countries that have done us no harm. That would require me to endorse crimes against humanity conducted under the guise of national security and patriotism. I cannot do that—I will not. It is simply wrong.

Neither should we, as we so often do, confuse supporting our troops with supporting the president, or wrongful and immoral policies of corrupt government. The president and his ilk do not support our troops or he would not use them as pawns; he would take care of them when they come home broken and torn with psychic scars. He does not care about them—they are only a means to an end.

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What a load of CRAP. I have a sister over there. While bleeding hearts in Canada bray that we should cut and run, our troops (Canadian and otherwise), are fighting to rid the Afghan people of the Taliban. Shame on anyone who sits in their comfortable Canadian home (secured in no small part by our veterans who fought the nazi scourge), and whinges about our involvment. I am one Canadian who is DAMN proud to have a family member with the guts and moral courage to do what is needed in that poor country.

Well, you are of course entitled to your opinion of the article as crap, and I hope your sister is well and returns safely.

The problem I have with folks bringing up the Canadian defence against the "nazi scourge" is that as a parallel to todays conflicts arising out of 911, it doesn't fit. The type of fascism we faught aginst is unfortunatly the side we have chosen to march along side this time. Simply, I don't see our soldiers fighting on the side of right this time, however good the intention of our troops are. "cut and run" are George Bush's words, just as Afghanistan is Bush's war for reasons far removed from simply saving the Afghani people. Your sisters heart and courage may be in the right place but I firmly believe our troops are in the wrong place, for the wrong reasons.

Sometimes I'm embarrasssed to be Canadian...It seems to me that 99% of those opposed to our troops being in Afghanistan are against it because it's "George Bush's war" or the "US's war". It's a free country last time I checked and "cut and run" can be used by anyone, including those for and against.
I suppose we could just let the religious lunatic Taliban take over again to beat their women and plot against the West they so passionately hate. They can grow their poppies to supply our addicts, and they can be left to give refuge to any and all terrorists who want to exterminate the infidels (that's you and me,friend).
I'll take a couch jumping, red string wearing, rosary toting, bible thumping westerner any day over that lot. Oh, and don't forget, they want to annihilate the Jews too....sounds like something the nazis wanted to do...hmmmm.
By the way,it's very offensive to me that anyone would compare our troops to nazis or fascists

I too am embarrassed that you're a Canadian.
I suppose it didn't even occur to you that your(not mine) friends in the northern alliance are the narcotics suppliers. Or that you and your valiant sister are good automatons for Harper who would have GLADLY went to Iraq.
How many have died in Afganistan because of us. I don't mean just our troops but theirs and their families. You claim to have feelings for the people living under the Taliban but you don't. Better dead than red is the redneck way of thinking. But go back to your church and pray for the Taliban abused children but your sister probably already murdered them.

"Sometimes I'm embarrasssed to be Canadian...".

I hear you me too.

"It seems to me that 99% of those opposed to our troops being in Afghanistan are against it because it's "George Bush's war" or the "US's war"."

And that would be a problem because....?

"It's a free country last time I checked and "cut and run" can be used by anyone"

It is, so sorry, use it as you will.

"I suppose we could just let the religious lunatic Taliban take over again to beat their women"

Yes and Afghanistan was invaded by the US for 911, not to save women from the Taliban. You remember the manhunt for Osama, that according to Bush isn't important anymore. Yes the reasons to be there just keep changing. Why is that?

"and plot against the West they so passionately hate. They can grow their poppies to supply our addicts, and they can be left to give refuge to any and all terrorists who want to exterminate the infidels (that's you and me,friend)."

You know if you want to buy into any boogeyman manufactured and then spoonfed to you by the MSM do so. WMD was such a boogyman so we were assured by the US administration, US and British intelligence, and the MSM. Iraq was invaed, sacked, and is still currently occupied even though we know the WMD story was bogus. Now tell me why I'm going to trust the claims about Afghanistan?

"By the way,it's very offensive to me that anyone would compare our troops to nazis or fascists"

You are free to be as offended as you choose to be. I didn't for a second mistake our troops for nazis or fascists. They are directly aiding the US military objectives in Afghanistan and those objectives in the middle east are invasionary and agressive, not defensive, and not justified. So in a looser sense, I feel that in supporting the US led agression in the Middle East, are closer to actions of Hitler than to that of the allies. The second world war as a parrallel doesn't fit that well to the current conflicts IMO anyway.

I often wonder if those who lash out at opposition to the type of mission Canadian troops are involved in Aghanistan do not deep down have their own uncertainties.

Those who join the military must obey the hierarchy. They willingly sacrifice their personal freedom to that of the state. It is the Prime Minister and his government that decides how to apply the military. The Prime Minister often uses the propaganda tactic of telling us "we must support the troops." Really what he means is that we must support their policies. The policy of the new Conservative government is to always follow their allies.

Because of the hierarchical and dangerous nature of the work the troops must trust and obey. They must rely on each other. They must do as they are told. That is the nature of their job. Saying that they support the mission is meaningless because they have no real choice.

On the other hand, those of us who are not part of that hierarchy, must care enough about the troops and our country to look closely at the mission they have been given. Is it right, is it just, is it realistic, does it fit with our values?

Many of us feel that the Afghanistan mission has been a mistake from the very beginning. It took military action against a criminal offence which is an over reaction. It is hard for someone with family taking such risks to even consider that our government might be putting them at risk for the wrong reasons or needlessly. I understand that because I have close friends whose son is now fighting his life after being injured in Afghanistan.

While we might not agree with the Taliban system of strict moral law coupled with a strict family hierarchy, they did destroy the opium trade and sought to grow food to feed the people rather than produce drugs to sell on the global market. They achieved a measure of security in a land that had been disrupted by war for decades. They were able to stop much of the rape that was used a means that was used by some Afghan factions to dismean their opponents. Since our troops arrived the opium trade has flourished and the people need food.

Certainly the Taliban practice a repressive brand of Islam. However, many of their beliefs are not unlike some in the Christian right. They believe in the union of church and state, the traditional hierarchical family, separate spheres for men and women, and the rule of "moral" law. What they oppose is foreign interference in their lands.

Our governments, both Liberal and Conservative, have sent our troops to interfere in their world. I don't believe that is in the best interests of our troops or of our country.

<blockquote>Shame on anyone who sits in their comfortable Canadian home (secured in no small part by our veterans who fought the nazi scourge), and whinges about our involvment.</blockquote> Here's a mental excercise for you: Consider for the moment, that perhaps the Nazi's and their followers, including those who served in its military, really did think with all their hearts, that what they were doing was morally right. Such a thing should not be hard to imagine, since millions did support the Nazi regime, millions died for it, and several countries joined with the Nazi's as willing allies. Now, imagine that it is you and your sister who think that you are morally right with all your heart in the exact same way as all of those misguided brainwashed Nazi's did 70 years ago. Food for thought assuming you can muster up enough courage to think about it and research the question in an unbiased way. A good starting point is to research the event that kicked off the war. Take a closer look at the 9/11 attacks, and look at the undeniable evidence that directly contradicts with the official version told to us by the government and the MSM. Go ahead, take a peek, if you really are right it won't matter. <a href="http://www.st911.org/">Scholars for 9/11 Truth</a>

How old are you? You wouldn't be one of those tolerant, values-loaded, elite, super intelligent Canadians would you? Perhaps you're just having an off day? Maybe you would just like to blow me up before I get to church?

. . .because Chall doesn't like what she has to say.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Whether I like it or not is immaterial to me doc. As is whether I agree or not. I have been around here long enough to see the patterns is all. The user is a recent joiner and usually, not all the time I admit, but usually when noobs come in with a hardon like this, it is a troll. Walk like a duck and all. You know how it is as a mod, right? Hows yer bud armyguy by the way?

And there is what looks to be an excellent documentary coming up on CBC that deals with the ways people are brainwashed into commiting war crimes, torture, genocide.

No bad apples.

Just easily misled sheep, tricked by sophisticated techniques of mass media, government propoganda, and military psy-ops procedures. Shock and disorientate, provide a parental figure to lead, and then remove all culpability.

Result?

Instant Nazi Stormtrooper. You don't have to grow them that way, like in Star Wars.

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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

I saw him off his leash in the park at lunch, chasing the ducks. Your gonna get a ticket for that, Dr C, that's a bylaw infraction.

All that guy needs is a good scratch behind the ears. Wonder if MRS armyguy would oblige?

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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

What I have to say to Michele is that your sister is in Afganistan totally against everything my country has stood for. We and the United States of America should be making decisions based on democracy, not plutocracy or whatever our government has morphed into. My god! The taliban may be backwards by what we regard as our moral high ground but they should have the right to grow as a country and not endure a crusade from self rightious countries such as ours. They have endured more than we ever will and the taliban was at least a form of order.

You should be offended that your sister has been put in harms way to better a gaggle of plutocrats and oil barons pocketbooks. And you should be thanking me and the others in this country who truly care for your sister and would spare her from the nightmares that are sure to plague her in the future. You are proud that your sister can kill while we would surely embrace her for a peackeeping role.
I hope your brave sister lives to defend this country as she most likely signed on for and not get caught up in your twisted bloodthirty jingoism!