Harper Pledges Patient Wait Times Guarantee
Waiting times depend upon your symptoms
If you have conservatolosticus, wait times are up two 5 years.
If you have libergrabatstrawsical you get seen immediately.
ridenrain ridenrain:
This is a hoot.
I knew we'd have our regular hecklers but we're getting a whole lot of new or anonomous folks too. Is this the Liberal campaign office comming out to play?


Election times heighten everyones attention to political bantering.
What, did you think that only the Conservatives would have something to say about it?
That would be rather narrow minded of you don't you think?
I simply got tired of reading nothing but mindless Liberal bashing by a chosen few (you know who you are) and decided to speak up.
Nice pictures you have there, are they supposed to impress anyone?
Because if that's all it takes to make an impression, one way or another, I'm sure we can find one of Stephen Harper wearing an SS uniform.
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
ridenrain ridenrain:
This is a hoot.
I knew we'd have our regular hecklers but we're getting a whole lot of new or anonomous folks too. Is this the Liberal campaign office comming out to play?


Election times heighten everyones attention to political bantering.
What, did you think that only the Conservatives would have something to say about it?
That would be rather narrow minded of you don't you think?
I simply got tired of reading nothing but mindless Liberal bashing by a chosen few (you know who you are) and decided to speak up.
Nice pictures you have there, are they supposed to impress anyone?
Because if that's all it takes to make an impression, one way or another, I'm sure we can find one of Stephen Harper wearing an SS uniform.
Can I be one of the CHOSEN few please?.
The word mindless can be given to those people who will vote Liberal after all the recent and not so recent scandals.
Using words like that in a post conveys very little.
RUEZ RUEZ:
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
I'm guessing if you had to wait 2 years for any kind of testing to be performed, it was neither an emergency nor life threatening or you simply didn't make the effort to meet the available window to have the testing performed.
Well I'm not sure if sleep apnea is considered an emergency, you stop breathing in your sleep and people have died from it. As for blaming me, that's pathetic. God you liberals are really grasping to hold on. Good riddance.
Sleep apnea?
Well if you waited 2 years to be tested for it then I would suggest that either;
A) You probably need to find a better family physician, one that actually attends to your problem.
or
B) Have made yourself available to testing by at least one of these testing centres.
http://www.css.to/sleep/centers.htm
But really, blaming others for your own laziness (I'm guessing you probably were unwilling to travel or be flexible with their appointment times) is kind of pathetic in its own right, don't you think?
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
ridenrain ridenrain:
This is a hoot.
I knew we'd have our regular hecklers but we're getting a whole lot of new or anonomous folks too. Is this the Liberal campaign office comming out to play?


Election times heighten everyones attention to political bantering.
What, did you think that only the Conservatives would have something to say about it?
That would be rather narrow minded of you don't you think?
I simply got tired of reading nothing but mindless Liberal bashing by a chosen few (you know who you are) and decided to speak up.
Nice pictures you have there, are they supposed to impress anyone?
Because if that's all it takes to make an impression, one way or another, I'm sure we can find one of Stephen Harper wearing an SS uniform.
Can I be one of the CHOSEN few please?.
The word mindless can be given to those people who will vote Liberal after all the recent and not so recent scandals.
Using words like that in a post conveys very little.
Or equally, the word mindless could also be used to describe the sheep that lap up and reiterate everything that Harper says like good little lapdogs.
Settle down now fluffy.
RUEZ @ Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:16 pm
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
But really, blaming others for your own laziness (I'm guessing you probably were unwilling to travel or be flexible with their appointment times) is kind of pathetic in its own right, don't you think?
I think perhaps you should go back to your hole and STFU. Since you don't know me you can't begin to comment on my life. Your a typical POS. I suppose I should have phoned up the hospital and told them I'm coming in whether they like it or not. God how pathetic you are, you know none of the details yet you feel qualified to blame me entirely. Good riddance.
RUEZ RUEZ:
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
But really, blaming others for your own laziness (I'm guessing you probably were unwilling to travel or be flexible with their appointment times) is kind of pathetic in its own right, don't you think?
I think perhaps you should go back to your hole and STFU. Since you don't know me you can't begin to comment on my life. Your a typical POS. I suppose I should have phoned up the hospital and told them I'm coming in whether they like it or not. God how pathetic you are, you know none of the details yet you feel qualified to blame me entirely. Good riddance.
Oh my...
The true Conservative attitude rears its ugly head.
Either conform and fall in lockstep or as you so elegantly put it, one is supposed to STFU and " go back into their hole".
Well now, that most certainly didn't take long to reveal.
They say the truth often hits very close to home.
Apparently something I said did indeed hit that truth nerve.
I wasn't planning on making this a regular activity but seeing as how my presence here as rankled your Conservative back, I think I might just become a regular fixture around here.
It's apparent that someone needs to keep a certain level of decorum in admist the obsenities being lobbed about by a chosen right winged few.
RUEZ @ Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:40 pm
No, I tell you to SHUT THE FUCK UP because you feel the need to call me lazy, rather than put the blame where it belongs. The underfunding of our health system is what causes long wait times, not my lazyness in getting to an apointment. Dumb fuck.
RUEZ RUEZ:
No, I tell you to SHUT THE FUCK UP because you feel the need to call me lazy, rather than put the blame where it belongs. The underfunding of our health system is what causes long wait times, not my lazyness in getting to an apointment. Dumb fuck.
Now now there RUEZ, there's no need to shout.
I realise that quite often children feel they must stomp up and down and shout because they feel it accentuates their opinion.
But really, it just shows how insecure they are that they can't express their opinon without the use of profanity or at a level louder than their normal voice.
As I said previously, I find it extremely difficult to believe that you couldn't get an appointment at any one of that numerous list of sleep apnea testing facilities.
Either that or, you were unwilling to compromise your own schedule or be somewhat flexible to having the testing done at an earlier date.
There's no amount of money that could possibly change that kind of attitude. A poor attitude isn't equitible to an underfunding problem.
Well then longtimelistener, thanks for joining the debate.
I'd suggest you fish out the list of 200 reasons not to vote Liberal and get started. You do need to add the Abotech scandal and maybe you can explain why you're star parachute candidate is having such trouble.
Maybe you can also clarify that Liberal Quebec meeting, where you borrowed a bunch of old people for the show. Did they at least get fed anything more than those ugly ginger bread cookies?
Now this is too rich....more "holier than thou" bullshit. Are you telling me that those putting together Neo-Con election events have never ever filled a room to make a good shot for the national media?
I suppose the next thing you are going to tell me is that the last Conservative government we had in this country was completely scandal-free?
You guys really need to get a shorter horse.
ridenrain ridenrain:
Well then longtimelistener, thanks for joining the debate.
I'd suggest you fish out the list of 200 reasons not to vote Liberal and get started. You do need to add the Abotech scandal and maybe you can explain why you're star parachute candidate is having such trouble.
Maybe you can also clarify that Liberal Quebec meeting, where you borrowed a bunch of old people for the show. Did they at least get fed anything more than those ugly ginger bread cookies?
Thanks for the greeting there ridenrain. I'll take it with a grain of salt since I can tell based on your past rants about the Liberal party that there is more than a hint of sarcasm in your greeting.
But really now, why would I have to (or want to) fish out a list of 200 reasons not to vote Liberal?
I'm supporting them not voting against them.
As for the Quebec ridings, I'm sure that they were probably treated somewhat better than the 8 star candidates that Harper dragged up on stage with him in Quebec City and then failed to announce.
Only stating when asked by the media if he was going to introduce them by name, that the media could have someone from his party provide their names before quickly walking off the stage.
I mean really now, is that how the Conservatives plan on winning support in Quebec? By dissing their own star candidates in such a lowly manner?
Mika @ Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:21 pm
The way I see it is that their are not enough doctors and possibly hospitals to account for the injuries that people have.
The lack of doctors is probably due to the fact that the is no monetary initiative for the people to become doctors and also those that have become doctors move to the USA given them more money. As for the lack of hospitals, that is just a guess on my part hence if that is the case then the government should start looking towards building more.
Another thing, there is very little places in universities to get in as a doctor maybe that should be changed as well? This may be a risk as we will be letting people with lesser marks(by some 0.5%) in hence indangering people a slight bit more but it may produce more doctors if that is the problem.
On the part of patients, well of course there is the fact that lately people have been really getting into the dumbass style of thinking hence you g4et more accidents happening and more people come to the hospital hence the wait time are increased.
I would like to return to the money initiative thing, and say that it takes many years of study to become a medical doctor,(min 9 I believe) yet it the pay for all those years of study is still pretty low. Not only do these doctors have to study for many years but they have to do it very well, and in addition they have to be at beck and call for an injury may occur at any time and hence they may be called up at any time to go do their duty. Hence what I am saying is that they are being paid too little for the amount that they do hence they are leaving to USA.
AH yet I have no clue how to resolve this problem as I am strongly against the private healthcare system(which is the reason doctors are leaving to USA, as it pays more) yet there must be a way.
Now when it comes to this plan Harper has set out, well I'm doughtign its for real, its just an election thing that will be forgoten right after, as always.
Thats all for me,
thanks for reading,
Mika
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
Red Bull Red Bull:
I am getting a bit tired of neo-conservatives bleating on about the adscam as though they are the harbringers of all that is just and pure.
Granted, what happened in Quebec was terrible and inexcusable and those who stole taxpayers money should be punished and the money returned. However, the neo-cons should be careful of throwing rocks on this issue....Harper refuses to reveal the names of financial supporters for his leadership campaign. I wonder why? I wonder if Conrad Black gave him any money - money that was stolen from taxpayers?
Perhaps Mr. Harper's hidden agenda will become more apparent if and when we see his hidden donors list.
Very well said my friend.
Why does Harper refuse to reveal the names of his financial supporters for his leadership campaign.
Probably because Harper has many unsavory skeletons hiding in his very own closet.
Of course, the neo-cons will continue to ignore that fact in the hopes that it will be overlooked by the voting public who aren't as willing to look that closely at Harper.
If memory serves me correctly though, wasn't this latest rendition of the Conservative party formed on a lie?
I could have sworn that Harper's right hand man, Peter made a promise not to merge the Conservatives with the Alliance, which is indeed what he did do.
I mean if you can't trust one not to lie to his own political brethren, how can you trust them not to lie to the Canadian people whose political ideology they don't share.
longtimelistener or should I call you shorttermmemory? You have a nerve coming here and post BS in the 1000th degree, your so called party is full of liars, miscreants, thieves and cowards please step off the soap box your gig is up.
hwacker hwacker:
longtimelistener longtimelistener:
Red Bull Red Bull:
I am getting a bit tired of neo-conservatives bleating on about the adscam as though they are the harbringers of all that is just and pure.
Granted, what happened in Quebec was terrible and inexcusable and those who stole taxpayers money should be punished and the money returned. However, the neo-cons should be careful of throwing rocks on this issue....Harper refuses to reveal the names of financial supporters for his leadership campaign. I wonder why? I wonder if Conrad Black gave him any money - money that was stolen from taxpayers?
Perhaps Mr. Harper's hidden agenda will become more apparent if and when we see his hidden donors list.
Very well said my friend.
Why does Harper refuse to reveal the names of his financial supporters for his leadership campaign.
Probably because Harper has many unsavory skeletons hiding in his very own closet.
Of course, the neo-cons will continue to ignore that fact in the hopes that it will be overlooked by the voting public who aren't as willing to look that closely at Harper.
If memory serves me correctly though, wasn't this latest rendition of the Conservative party formed on a lie?
I could have sworn that Harper's right hand man, Peter made a promise not to merge the Conservatives with the Alliance, which is indeed what he did do.
I mean if you can't trust one not to lie to his own political brethren, how can you trust them not to lie to the Canadian people whose political ideology they don't share.
longtimelistener or should I call you shorttermmemory? You have a nerve coming here and post BS in the 1000th degree, your so called party is full of liars, miscreants, thieves and cowards please step off the soap box your gig is up.
I'm curious hwacker, which part of longtimelistener's post do you conceive as being bullshit?
Because from my perspective, he's spot on.
This latest rendition of the Conservative party was formed based on a lie, deceit and misrepresentation.
Or did you so conveniently forget about that part and the sole reason as to why there are officially two Conservative parties for people to choose from.
One being the Harper led, Conservative Reform Alliance Party or
C.R.A.P. for short and the other being the
Progressive Canadian (PC) Party.
You do remember how David Orchard had a written agreement from Peter MacKay at the 2003 Progressive Conservative Leadership convention excluding any such merger between the Conservatives and the Alliance don't you?
And how Peter MacKay outright lied and turned around and merged the two parties?
You do remember how that led to at the time of the merger four sitting Progressive Conservative Members of Parliament -- André Bachand, John Herron, former Tory leadership candidate Scott Brison, and former Prime Minister Joe Clark -- deciding not to join the new Conservative Party caucus as did retiring PC Party President Bruck Easton.
You do remember how it led Brison to cross the floor to the Liberals and how soon afterward, he was made a parliamentary secretary in Paul Martin's government, and he became a full cabinet minister after the 2004 federal election.
You do remember the considerable screaming from within the Harper camp when during the 2004 election, Joe Clark gave an endorsement to Paul Martin over Stephen Harper, saying that Canadians should "trust the devil we know".
You do remember how former PC Party President Bruck Easton also publicly stating that it was his intention to vote Liberal in the election due to his personal concerns with Stephen Harper's leadership.
You do remember how the way in which the merger was handled even caused one former Alliance MP, former CA leadership candidate Keith Martin, to leave the party and run as a Liberal in the last election, one in which he retained his seat, this time for the Liberals.
Additionally, three Senators, William Doody, Norman Atkins, and Lowell Murray, declined to join the new party and continue to sit in the upper house as a rump caucus of Progressive Conservatives.
You do remember that happening right?
You do remember all of these events taking place right?
Or is it you that is suffering from a sudden and convenient case of shorttermmemory?
Or perhaps you'd prefer to try and claim that these examples of what longtimelistener had pointed out are just fictitious examples of what you call 'Liberal bs'?
So which is it?