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Pretty rich coming from you, ride, considering that you have started literally dozens of liberal-bashing threads.

PS Have you decided whether or not to take Derby up on his offer?

   

I'm glad your brother got his help so quickly. However if you pull your head out of your ass you'd realize that many people aren't getting the help they need when they need it.

   

Ruez don't waste your time.

This guys 2 points short of a Zellers toaster.

Notice the more left wing the louder it is, after all, empty vessels make most noise.

   

VANCOUVER (CP) - NDP leader Jack Layton says his party will focus on stopping the flow of public money into private health care, not shutting down private clinics.

Campaigning in Vancouver's Chinatown Sunday, Layton said private clinics are a "fundamental aspect" of the health-care system founded by former Saskatchewan premier Tommy Douglas and not much can be done about them. Layton says he wants to stop tax dollars from boosting the bottom lines of big health-care corporations.

"Our focus is to keep public health-care dollars going to public and non-profit facilities," Layton told reporters. "What happens with people in the privacy of their own relationship financially, that's up to them."

When pressed on the issue, he said private clinics have been around from the beginning.

"There is nothing new about that," he said. "Our focus is on what happens to the public tax dollars that we all contribute to help take care of Canadians.

"We want them going to non-profit and public facilities and services."

The position seems to contradict what the party said all week about stopping the privatization of health care.

Party staff said the theory is that there would be no market for private care if a public health system was funded properly.

Layton was trying to take advantage of a slow day on the part of the other leaders to frame the debate around the health-care issue. But he ended up leaving reporters following his campaign stumped about his position.

In his speech to a rally of 300 supporters, he suggested that the election is only a two-party race on the topic because both the Liberals and Conservatives support what he calls the Americanization of health care.

He tried to drag Michael Kirby into the debate, saying the rival parties espouse the views of the Liberal senator, while the NDP fight for the values of their founding leader, Douglas.

Kirby has said publicly that he backs a public health system, but favours "getting as much competition into the delivery sector as you can."

Layton called Kirby the Wizard of Oz of health-care privatization.

"When you pull that curtain back, there Senator Kirby is prominent in the health policies of both the Conservative and the Liberal parties," Layton said.

Liberal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh couldn't really clear up the issue of whether health clinics that operate solely on private funds could be stopped. Layton suggests they can't.

"The mode of delivery is determined by the provinces," Dosanjh told reporters in a conference call.

"Our preference is a public delivery, but that is determined by the provinces and if they determine that these clinics are to go on then they have to live within the confines of the (Canada Health) Act."

Instead, Dosanjh chose to attack Layton over his charge that the Liberals favour privatization.

"Mr. Layton says that he supports public delivery. We've been saying for a year and a half, ever since I have been a minister of health, our preference is public delivery," he said.



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Well to be fair Ruez, cancer treatments are a bit more urgent than something not so life threatening such as sleep apnea.
Just because you had to wait, doesn't mean everyone isn't getting the help that they need when they need it.
If anything, I'd say your case wasn't exactly a critical condition.

And NorthCelt, I'm glad to hear that your brother was given prompt treatment. I've had 2 members of my immediate family go through 3 bouts of cancer treatments over the course of the past 6 years. In each case, they were promptly diagnosed and treated without any delay.
One last thing NorthCelt, you're dead on target with your comments.

   

So it seems that the Liberals and the NDP are liking the private clinics thing, who's your vote going to Ruserious, must be the CPC cause they are the only ones with your position.

Welcome to the group.

   

Wouldn't you Lily if you had the option and it meant getting the help you need right away?

   

As I said earlier, I think any one who wouldn't do anything they could to ease the suffering of their loved ones is either full of crap or insensitive to the point cruelty.

   

I've used a private clinic, free of charge thanks to BC health care.

   

Not having gone through it, I've heard that it is quite painful and de-abilitating, but to fixate on that one paticular problem is to muddy the waters.
I see hwacker beat me to Jack's strange comments so I'll erase mine.
Good stuff.

   

Have you ever suffered from chronic pain or a debilitating condition that renders you wheelchair bound? You might sing a different tune if you required hip or knee replacement.

   

Then you'd best ask Peter Warren on CKNW because that was the situation he found himself in. I guess it was a huge and personal problem for him & his wife, so that is why he used it. His experiences may have been different that you're father, and actual results may vary.

   

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