Liberal NDP Coalition Government
tritium @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:26 pm
Oh yeah... Ruez and we both know the Reform Party had no affiliation with the KKK, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Droege
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1990s
In 1992, Droege's connections with racist organizations led to his expulsion from the Reform Party of Canada — Droege and a number of others from this community were trying to enter the Reform Party when it expanded in Ontario, and to take advantage of the party's inexperience. Later, in the 1993 Federal Election, Droege and other Heritage Front members made a point of being seen outside of Reform Party events in the city of Toronto.
In 1992, Droege's connections with racist organizations led to his expulsion from the Reform Party of Canada — Droege and a number of others from this community were trying to enter the Reform Party when it expanded in Ontario, and to take advantage of the party's inexperience. Later, in the 1993 Federal Election, Droege and other Heritage Front members made a point of being seen outside of Reform Party events in the city of Toronto.
dino_bobba_renno @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:27 pm
mixedfarmer mixedfarmer:
i am for a coalition with the liberals and ndp and even green party. at least for a few years to stabilize canada
I don't think a coalition with three parties, all with different beliefs would have a "stabilizing" effect.
mixedfarmer @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:28 pm
i dont think the conservatives will do that well. first of all if they get 70 percent of alberta vote the 32 percent of all of canada in the polls. that would put the conservative vote low for the rest of canada
tritium @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:30 pm
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
mixedfarmer mixedfarmer:
i am for a coalition with the liberals and ndp and even green party. at least for a few years to stabilize canada
I don't think a coalition with three parties, all with different beliefs would have a "stabilizing" effect.
They need to fold the Green and NDP into the Liberal Party as they did previously with the Reform Party of Canada, then Canadian Alliance, now folded into the Conservative Party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_Canada
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The Reform Party of Canada (French: ''Parti réformiste du Canada'') was a Canadian federal political party that existed from 1987 to 2000. It was originally founded as a Western Canada-based protest party, but attempted to expand eastward in the 1990s. It viewed itself as a populist party, but was also conservative. It was folded into the ideologically and fiscally conservative Canadian Alliance in 2000 which then merged with the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada (PC) to form the present-day Conservative Party of Canada in 2003. During its time on the Canadian political scene, Reform had only one leader, Preston Manning, the son of former Alberta Premier and Evangelical Christian preacher Ernest Manning.
Apollo @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:30 pm
The greens, NDP an Libs combined will still have less seats than the Conservatives so all this talk of a coalition is moot.
Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:31 pm
Apollo Apollo:
The greens, NDP an Libs combined will still have less seats than the Conservatives so all this talk of a coalition is moot.
wow you have the election results already?
RUEZ @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:33 pm
tritium tritium:
Oh yeah... Ruez and we both know the Reform Party had no affiliation with the KKK, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Droege
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Droege
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1990s
In 1992, Droege's connections with racist organizations led to his expulsion from the Reform Party of Canada — Droege and a number of others from this community were trying to enter the Reform Party when it expanded in Ontario, and to take advantage of the party's inexperience. Later, in the 1993 Federal Election, Droege and other Heritage Front members made a point of being seen outside of Reform Party events in the city of Toronto.
In 1992, Droege's connections with racist organizations led to his expulsion from the Reform Party of Canada — Droege and a number of others from this community were trying to enter the Reform Party when it expanded in Ontario, and to take advantage of the party's inexperience. Later, in the 1993 Federal Election, Droege and other Heritage Front members made a point of being seen outside of Reform Party events in the city of Toronto.
Wow are you slow. Do you know what the word affiliation means? How can the reform party be affiliated with the KKK and then expel someone for being a racist?
dino_bobba_renno @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:34 pm
Canadaka Canadaka:
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Can someone explain to me why the Bloc is a federal party?
I hate the Bloc, they should not get federal funding. If the bloc wasn't in the picture things would be different. They are whats is realling going to stop the Tories or the Liberals from getting a majority again.
If it weren't for the Bloc we would probably have had something much uglier by now. For as much as we all hate the Bloc, at least they give Quebec an opportunity to express it's views on the national stage in a democratic and non violent way. If anything I think by giving Quebec a voice in Federal politics through the Bloc we have helped quell some of the separatist sentiment.
stokes @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:34 pm
Canadaka Canadaka:
Apollo Apollo:
The greens, NDP an Libs combined will still have less seats than the Conservatives so all this talk of a coalition is moot.
wow you have the election results already?
dont need them...all of the fear-mongering of left leaning parties have been proven wrong and as we all know those who are "right" prevail in th end!!!!
RUEZ @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:37 pm
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
If it weren't for the Bloc we would probably have had something much uglier by now. For as much as we all hate the Bloc, at least they give Quebec an opportunity to express it's views on the national stage in a democratic and non violent way.
So only Bloc politicians can truly represent Quebec? I'm thinking no.
dino_bobba_renno @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:39 pm
RUEZ RUEZ:
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
If it weren't for the Bloc we would probably have had something much uglier by now. For as much as we all hate the Bloc, at least they give Quebec an opportunity to express it's views on the national stage in a democratic and non violent way.
So only Bloc politicians can truly represent Quebec? I'm thinking no.
I think the Bloc is the only party that can represent sepratists
OnTheIce @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:39 pm
Canadaka Canadaka:
If nothing happens, and we have a conservative minority, there will probably be another election in a year and people will be pissed. Most people are already mad about this election.
Unless Harper can learn to work with the other parties in parliament more so than he did this last parliament.
Learn to work with the other parties? Harper's government was the longest running minority government in Canadian history.
As for this coalition idea....won't happen. Pipe dream for you Liberals desperate for a little power.
Election in a year? I hope so....for the CPC sake. The Liberals are beyond broke....and Dion is still in deep water over his leadership loans he still hasn't paid back.
Reverend Blair @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:43 pm
I think a coalition government is possible. The Liberals and NDP don't need 155 combined seats to do that, just more than the Conservatives have. The Bloc would support such a coalition, just like parties have supported minority governments in previous governments.
It also needs to be made clear that a coalition is not a merger. Don't confuse the two. The Liberals and NDP are too far apart on some very fundamental issues for a merger to work. Compromises can be made to make a coalition to work though.
The big stumbling block is going to be policy when it comes to corporations. The Liberals are essentially a pro-corporate party. The NDP are pro-worker. Compromises can be made though. For example, split the difference on the corporate tax breaks, or go 60/40 in exchange for anti-scab legislation.
That kind of compromise can make a coalition work, and gain the support the Bloc.
tritium @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:43 pm
RUEZ RUEZ:
Wow are you slow. Do you know what the word affiliation means? How can the reform party be affiliated with the KKK and then expel someone for being a racist?
Ruez, I don't know if you remember. The Reform Party was well know for it's far right wing, anti-immigration policies and racial overtones.
Now many of those same members are what makes up the new Conservative Party of Canada after it had it's ass handed to them with a Liberal landslide.
Heritage Front's endorsement of the Party and many racist remarks from members put Preston Manning under fire when the Reform Party was still around.
KKK, Heritage Front... whatever you want to call the group, it's all white trash supremacist.
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Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:10 pm
Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:
I think a coalition government is possible. The Liberals and NDP don't need 155 combined seats to do that, just more than the Conservatives have. The Bloc would support such a coalition, just like parties have supported minority governments in previous governments.
It also needs to be made clear that a coalition is not a merger. Don't confuse the two. The Liberals and NDP are too far apart on some very fundamental issues for a merger to work. Compromises can be made to make a coalition to work though.
The big stumbling block is going to be policy when it comes to corporations. The Liberals are essentially a pro-corporate party. The NDP are pro-worker. Compromises can be made though. For example, split the difference on the corporate tax breaks, or go 60/40 in exchange for anti-scab legislation.
That kind of compromise can make a coalition work, and gain the support the Bloc.
It also needs to be made clear that a coalition is not a merger. Don't confuse the two. The Liberals and NDP are too far apart on some very fundamental issues for a merger to work. Compromises can be made to make a coalition to work though.
The big stumbling block is going to be policy when it comes to corporations. The Liberals are essentially a pro-corporate party. The NDP are pro-worker. Compromises can be made though. For example, split the difference on the corporate tax breaks, or go 60/40 in exchange for anti-scab legislation.
That kind of compromise can make a coalition work, and gain the support the Bloc.
Yah the corporate tax and afghanistan are the 2 major conflicts.
I was not talking about a merger. I fear that at some point it might have to happen, but with the current leaders i can't see it ever happening. And I can't see the Liberals giving up the liberal brand name and jack Layton is too stubborn and proud.