Canada Kicks Ass
Liberal NDP Coalition Government

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Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:58 pm

They are talking on Mike Duffy Live about IF the conservatives win this election, which they most likely will, that some people are suggesting the Liberals and NDP should form a Coalition and take down the goverment on the first confidence motion. Then go to the Govenor General and ask her to sweear in a Liberal NDP Coalition Government.

They also make the point that since Dion's job will most likely be on the line and that layton has had numerous trys and the NDP hasn't moved much, they might have reasons to do this for self preservation reasons as well.

Being a fairly left-wing Liberal I would personaly support this and is pretty much the only way the NDP will ever get a cabinet minister. But i think the chance of this happening are probably below 10%.

But without some sort of merger or Coalition in the future, with the emergance of the greens and the bloc not going away, I don't see how any party will be able to get a majority anytime in the forseable future, so a Coalition might be the only way to form a stable government.

This is not without president and is within the realm os the possible. I think its happened 2 times in Canada's history and I think has happened for Provincial goverments.

   



faile @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:05 pm

Who cares, nobody is projecting that NDP Seats + Libs Seats > 155 anyway.

   



RUEZ @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:07 pm

If the Canadian public felt that either Dion or Layton were fit to govern they would be voting more for them then the Conservatives. Having two leaders that can't do it on their own forming a government doesn't sound like much of a solution.

   



Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:08 pm

faile faile:
Who cares, nobody is projecting that NDP Seats + Libs Seats > 155 anyway.


It can happen, but I don't think that is needed, as long as its more seats than the Conservatives. And the Bloc has more in common with the Liberals and the NDP than the tories, so they prop it up.

The Bloc held the balance of power in this last government as well.

   



Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:11 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
If the Canadian public felt that either Dion or Layton were fit to govern they would be voting more for them then the Conservatives. Having two leaders that can't do it on their own forming a government doesn't sound like much of a solution.


Well there is also talk that the Conservatives could enter talks with the Bloc as well, to give in to some of there demends in return for the Bloc proping up there goverment.

But is that really in Canada's best interest, I dont think so.

If nothing happens, and we have a conservative minority, there will probably be another election in a year and people will be pissed. Most people are already mad about this election.

Unless Harper can learn to work with the other parties in parliament more so than he did this last parliament.

   



PluggyRug @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:12 pm

A coaltion of NDP/Liberal would just cause much infighting. Nothing would get done.

Anyways I for one do not think the Liberals or the NDP would be happy with each other.

   



Toro @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 pm

If the Tories win, there will not be another election in a year unless the Liberals force one. The economy will be in recession and it will make no sense for the Tories to drop the writ unless something very unusual happens.

Get used to the permanent Canadian minority.

   



EyeBrock @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 pm

If I was a Liberal I'd be more worried about the fact that the NDP will be taking seats from the Libs as well as letting the Tories in ridings where a Lib/NDP vote is split and the Tories come up the middle.

   



Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 pm

$1:
A coaltion of NDP/Liberal would just cause much infighting. Nothing would get done.

Anyways I for one do not think the Liberals or the NDP would be happy with each other.

the same could of been said with Reform and the PC's. There was about the same political divide there.

   



hwacker @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:15 pm

Sounds like the liberals and the dippers can't win they'll just screw the system up for everybody else, If they do this they'll be big problems across the country.

   



Chumley @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:15 pm

Canadaka Canadaka:
The Bloc held the balance of power in this last government as well.


Can someone explain to me why the Bloc is a federal party?

   



PluggyRug @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:16 pm

Canadaka Canadaka:

Unless Harper can learn to work with the other parties in parliament more so than he did this last parliament.


Was not that the other way around. It was Dion who continuously failed to show.

   



uwish @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:16 pm

not Harpers fault, you have two left leaning parties and one slightly right.

It can be very difficult to meet any common ground.

What I don't get, is the CPC crime bill's having opposition, I haven't spoken to one person that says they are happy with the status quo we have now in regards to Young Offenders Act, bail conditions for violent crime etc

hard to meet half way when the liberal flat out don't want anything to do with crime bills and one does.

PS was about to mention the fact that Dion didn't show up to what 7? votes on critical issues? but was beaten to the punch.

again hard to work with someone who seems pretty uninterested in doing much

   



Canadaka @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm

$1:
Sounds like the liberals and the dippers can't win they'll just screw the system up for everybody else, If they do this they'll be big problems across the country.

Its not screwing the system, its part of our parliamentary system.

$1:
Can someone explain to me why the Bloc is a federal party?


I hate the Bloc, they should not get federal funding. If the bloc wasn't in the picture things would be different. They are whats is realling going to stop the Tories or the Liberals from getting a majority again.

   



faile @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:18 pm

PluggyRug PluggyRug:
A coaltion of NDP/Liberal would just cause much infighting. Nothing would get done.

Anyways I for one do not think the Liberals or the NDP would be happy with each other.


A merger may also actually kill a lot of support for the NDP going forward. No Liberals have been elected in Saskatchewan's legislature since two of them crossed the floor to create a narrow NDP majority. It's true many people are voting against parties they don't like. Imagine their dissatisfaction with the party they voted for when they join forces with one they despise.

   



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