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Here's the scandals that happened under Mulroney.All 11 of them. conservative scandals

   

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Canada is not present in Iraq and I doubt like hell the conservatives would pitch in to help when the war is not even that popular in the USA. At this point Canada is losing nothing by staying out of the war.

   

What a load of crap.
What about the caskets comming home from A-stan because Chretien cancelled the helios that we need for med-evacs.

What about the caskets of the sub-mainers who died so the Liberals could save some money on the Navy.

What about the party who are still sending them on UN missions without proper gear.

What about the hundreds of dead civilians that were killed at home by illegal handguns that the registry can't track, but $2 billions worth of police could have stopped.


Maybe it's because Paul Martin was in favour of ballistic missile defence, before he was against it.

Maybe it's because he was for the Iraq War, before he was against it.

Maybe it's because he was against same-sex marriage, before he was for it.

Maybe it's because he was against the Clarity Act, before he was for it.

Maybe it's because he was against free trade, before he was for it.

Maybe it's because he was against deficit reduction, before he was for it.

Maybe it's because he was against the GST, and then kept it in place.

Maybe it's because he rails against co-operation with the Bloc, when his Quebec lieutenant (yes, his top man in Quebec) is a frickin' co-founder of the Bloc himself.

Maybe it's because he demonized Tory tax cuts, before unveiling even bigger tax cuts himself.

Maybe it's because he presents himself as the saviour of public health care, when he gut it by the billions as Finance Minister.

Maybe it's because Sheila Copps said he wanted to scrap the Canada Health Act.

Maybe its because Sheila Copps said he wanted to scrap Old Age Pensions.

Maybe it's because he turns a blind eye to health care privatization in Quebec. Because he attends a private clinic himself.

Maybe it's because he declares an end to cronyism and patronage in Ottawa, and then appoints a disgraced guy like Art Eggleton to the Senate.

Maybe it's because he says he was "Mad as Hell" about Adscam, while he hands out no-bid contracts to buddies like David Herle and the Earnscliffe Strategy Group.

Maybe it's because he's presented three radically different budgets in the space of one year.

Maybe it's because he condemns terrorism with his lips, and then knowingly attends fundraisers for Tamil terrorists.

Maybe its because he deceived the Canadian public about the amount of federal money granted to his own company, Canada Steamship Lines, when he was Finance Minister. Only about $150 million by the way.

Maybe its because he talks about slaying the democratic deficit when he goes on appointing unelected Senators. Because he stops at nothing to shield his star candidates, and then leaves Chretienite nomination candidates like Sheila Copps to the wolves. Because he dictatorially rescheduled opposition days, filibustered his own budget and ignored more than one vote of confidence this spring. Because he sent his chief of staff to buy the floor crossing of the Grewals. Because he did buy the floor crossing of Belinda Stronach. Because he scheduled a confidence vote around the surgery of a Tory MP fighting cancer. Because, in the words of the Globe & Mail, he's had the gall to "spit in the face of the Commons and call it respect.”

Maybe it's because he's mused about using the notwithstanding clause on same-sex marriage, and then falsely accused the Conservatives of planning to do the very same.

Maybe it's because he's opposed minimum sentences for criminials since day one, and all of a sudden has proposed minimum sentences for gun crime, just weeks before an election.

Maybe it's because he paints himself as a patriotic Canadian, and yet has refused to fly our flag on his ships. All so he could violate Canadian labour law and pay third world wages of course.

Maybe it's because he attacks the Tories on the environment, when his ships dump dangerous waste into the Great Lakes.

Maybe it's because of these infamous words, that go to the to the heart of the trustworthyness of Paul Edgar Philippe Martin: "Screw the Red Book... Don't tell me what's in the Red Book. I wrote the goddamned thing. And I know that it's a lot of crap."

I could go on, but alas, I don't have all year. Suffice it to say that Martin's core beliefs, his principles, his priorities, his agenda, has been as consistent as the solid state of an ice cube in a scorching desert, and about as clear as mud.

In fact, he really has no core beliefs, no priorities. His is a government of endless improvisation, of expedience, of an endless obsession to stay in power.

His agenda is so hidden even he doesn't know what it is. He has to keep looking to the prevailing political winds to find out.

And thankfully, the Canadian people are coming to realize that. At precisely the right time.

   

It was a decade ago and a different party.
Welcome to the year 2000.

   

So tell me streaker what has Harper have to do with any of that,it's like your blaming him for a scandal that hasnt even happened yet. You'll also notice the conservatives involved either stepped down,got booted out or charged.

   

The key point though, Bart, is that if Harper had his druthers at the time he would have thrown us into that war, alongside Bush.

Maybe he wouldn't send Canadians to Iraq at this point if he were to win the upcoming election, but the guy is still fundamentally pro-Bush and there is every reason to believe that he remains determined to turn Canada into America's docile little lapdog.

   

Yeah Martin and the Liberals suck. So let's vote for a party of wannabe-American brownnosers instead!

   

Good retort.
What about Harpers hair? I'm sure you could come up with some good giggly opinions that might sway the sheeple at the water cooler.

   

Good retort there yourself, bud.

And exactly how are Harper and the Conservatives not wannabe-American brownnosers i.e. "sheeple"?

   

What's with this "American" emphisis? What the hell does that have to do with the Canadian election? You're tarring the CPC as "American" yet all I see is the desire for honest, open representation.

   

Thank God

And Streaker what kinda toothpaste do you use to allow you to spew that much BS and still keep friends?

Keep it in the reality of today not some made-up world in your head.

   

I'm at a loss here.
I can't see how you can compare open discussion to stomping effigies on TV (well, the CBC) and calling leaders for foreign countries "bastards". That's like comparing university to a day care center.
It's no wonder their dragging their feet on softwood.
Regardless of what you might think, they are our major trading partner and that, and common human decency, justifies something more than the arrogance Paul Martin's party has been showing.

   

"A Harper Conservative government would not treat Canada-US relations as a public opinion piñata to be prodded and pierced to scare up NDP votes and anti-American excess. A Harper Conservative government would make the management of that file an issue of competence and priority. Our leverage in the world has a lot to do with who we are as Canadians, the positions we have taken on global issues and our strength as an economy. But it also has a lot to do with our relationship as client, customer and security partner with the United States, and the way we manage that relationship. On this file, despite Ambassador McKenna’s outstanding work, we are falling behind. And as a result, the importance of bi-national institutions like NORAD are very much in doubt. The United States is not the sum total of our foreign policy priorities-but if we get that relationship wrong, nothing else really matters. A Harper Conservative government would understand that."

It's called foreign policy. You might need to look it up.

   

Coming from you hwanker that's absolutely priceless!

   

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