Canada Kicks Ass
MPs topple Liberal government, trigger election

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PluggyRug @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:41 am

ridenrain ridenrain:
I'm at a loss here.
I can't see how you can compare open discussion to stomping effigies on TV (well, the CBC) and calling leaders for foreign countries "bastards". That's like comparing university to a day care center.
It's no wonder their dragging their feet on softwood.
Regardless of what you might think, they are our major trading partner and that, and common human decency, justifies something more than the arrogance Paul Martin's party has been showing.




Not to worry, Liberal supporters are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find more wishy washy reasons not to kick them out.
Like I said in a previous post, weak minds.

   



Streaker @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:46 am

[web]http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2005/11/the_world_needs.html[/web]


:twisted: :P :twisted: :P

   



CrazyCanuck007 @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:46 am

if any polotician shows up on my doorstep during christmas week, i plan to call the police and have them arrested for trespassing!

   



ridenrain @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:58 am

Streaker Streaker:
:twisted: :P :twisted: :P


So how does this support you're opinion, that Harper is George Bush's evil minion? Do you actually have any basis to this, other than.."everybody knows".

   



Streaker @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:24 pm

ziggy ziggy:
So tell me streaker what has Harper have to do with any of that,it's like your blaming him for a scandal that hasnt even happened yet. You'll also notice the conservatives involved either stepped down,got booted out or charged.


That's an entirely valid point, ziggy. But the CPC has had it's share of controversy while in opposition.

Are they really so morally superior to the Libs?

They said they wouldn't participate in the House of Commons pension plan, but in the end they did. Manning said he wouldn't take up residence at Stornoway, but in the end he did. The CPC claims to be open and tolerant, but then there's Randy White getting only the most feeble of reprimands for his comments.

Ain't nothin' special about the Tories...

   



Streaker @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:28 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
What's with this "American" emphisis? What the hell does that have to do with the Canadian election? You're tarring the CPC as "American" yet all I see is the desire for honest, open representation.


Honest, open representation would be great, ride.

As for the CPC being "American", I wonder how much further along the path to deep integration we would be if the Tories won power a couple of elections ago.

   



Streaker @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:37 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
I'm at a loss here.
I can't see how you can compare open discussion to stomping effigies on TV (well, the CBC) and calling leaders for foreign countries "bastards". That's like comparing university to a day care center.
It's no wonder their dragging their feet on softwood.
Regardless of what you might think, they are our major trading partner and that, and common human decency, justifies something more than the arrogance Paul Martin's party has been showing.


Carolyn Parrish isn't really all that representative of the Liberal party. She did eventually get turfed out by Martin, after all.

The softwood lumber dispute has been going on for ages, and Mulroney's "Free Trade" deal (along with his pathetic ass kissing) clearly failed to provide Canadian lumber producers with that much-ballyhooed unfettered access to the American market.

Calling leaders of foreign countries "bastards" isn't very bright, to be sure. But neither is kowtowing to them.

   



ridenrain @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:50 pm

Streaker Streaker:
Carolyn Parrish isn't really all that representative of the Liberal party. She did eventually get turfed out by Martin, after all.

The softwood lumber dispute has been going on for ages, and Mulroney's "Free Trade" deal (along with his pathetic ass kissing) clearly failed to provide Canadian lumber producers with that much-ballyhooed unfettered access to the American market.

Calling leaders of foreign countries "bastards" isn't very bright, to be sure. But neither is kowtowing to them.


There's a difference between respect and kowtowing.

I don't expect the guy I buy a coffee from to call me sir and mean it, but I don't expect to be called a bastard. If I am, I'll go somewhere else. Canada's somewhere else is half a world away.
Try and explain you're Bush-bashing to some of the out-of-work GM folks in Ontario.

..So the softwood problem is now Mulroney's fault? Say what you like about him but he would probably have called up Bush and swore at him a bit. So far, all Paul has done is play it up to the home crowd.

Carolyn Parrish was turfed because she dissed Paul, not because she was an embarasment to the whole country. If she was turfed because of what she said, the Americans could see that

   



DerbyX @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:33 pm

$1:
Try and explain you're Bush-bashing to some of the out-of-work GM folks in Ontario.


Interesting that you mention GM considering that it was only a partial factory closing & a support facility versus 2 full plants in the US and another 5 partial/support. GM has been warning about this for some time that their worker healthcare costs were unsustainable, something this forum debated some time ago. Of course they also shut down some CDN sites but the reasons why they did it were clear. Politics & US relations had nothing to do with it, why would it?

   



ManifestDestiny @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:03 pm

I cant wait to see how the internet effects this election like it has been doing here in the USA.

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:23 pm

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
I cant wait to see how the internet effects this election like it has been doing here in the USA.


ManifestDestiny, excellent point.

Canada has had national internet-era elections, but I don't think such a pivotal one.

   



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