AGRICULTURE "ALARM BELLS ARE RINGING"
sasquatch2 @ Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:50 am
Canadian winter diesel is a 50/50 mix diesel and stove oil.
US #1 turns to pea soup even with conditioner added -20 and lower.
Bio-diesel requires heat to remain viscous. A fuel tank heater would be required to keep ANY mixture flowing. heating a fuel tank as well as the motor etc increases to electricity required.....not real green.
Using bio-diesel even in Southern Ontario is problematic.
BartSimpson @ Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:14 am
Banff Banff:
Canadian government wants to know what to do with agriculture over the next few months .
Leave them alone. That's the best thing they can do is leave the farmers alone to do what they do best. Why pointy headed geeks in government think they're always needed to do something for the poor unfortunates out in the hinterlands escapes me. It sound like there's some ag dept. in some ministry that needs to find something to do to justify their budget for FY2007.
sasquatch2 @ Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:45 am
What is worth noting is the CO2 AGW crowd also wish to eliminate high-yield farming and emphasize "organic farming". That is a policy guaranteed to result in global famine.
grainfedprairieboy @ Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:41 pm
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
What is worth noting is the CO2 AGW crowd also wish to eliminate high-yield farming and emphasize "organic farming". That is a policy guaranteed to result in global famine.
Organic farming is a sham. People would be shocked to know how many chemicals used in agriculture for decades and made in a factory have quietly been certified as "organic". No where is a fool and his/her money parted with faster then the organic aisle of the local grocer.
Banff @ Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:08 pm
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
What is worth noting is the CO2 AGW crowd also wish to eliminate high-yield farming and emphasize "organic farming". That is a policy guaranteed to result in global famine.
Organic farming is a sham. People would be shocked to know how many chemicals used in agriculture for decades and made in a factory have quietly been certified as "organic". No where is a fool and his/her money parted with faster then the organic aisle of the local grocer.
very good point .
Knoss @ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:36 am
$1:
Organic farming is a sham. People would be shocked to know how many chemicals used in agriculture for decades and made in a factory have quietly been certified as "organic". No where is a fool and his/her money parted with faster then the organic aisle of the local grocer.
Not sure about chemicals used, I do know that a lot more has to be cahrged before I will go thought the trouble of being organic.
Toro @ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:43 pm
Legalize marijuana.
Farmers would make a fortune.
Knoss @ Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:28 pm
$1:
Legalize marijuana.
Farmers would make a fortune.
Farmers would make a fortune.
a farmer could easily grow 42 tons on one field, prices would crash, mob would go broke. Legalize cannibus to stop organised crime.
Toro @ Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:33 pm
Absolutely.
Hells Angels could go work at Mickey D's.
sasquatch2 @ Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:48 am
Truly organic produce is easy to identify.....
It's the shrivelled stuff with the hair on it...........
Robair @ Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:18 pm
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
The family farm is quickly disappearing and outside of hobby farms will be gone within one more generation. Many believe subsidies are created to provide cheap food for urban centres but that is only partially true, most of the subsidies are out there to artificially protect the family farm and preserve a way of life most have rejected. (No where in the world is this more prevalent then Europe.) The mixed family farm of your children's story book has currently all but disappeared as farmers scramble to buy out their neighbours and grow to compete with the giant corporate ag producers. These subsisdies are a waste of money as the family farm is terminal and absolutely nothing will save it.
'family farms' or smaller opperations are actually more efficiant than the big guys. The only real advantage the big operations have is time.
After harvest there are bills to pay for the years production. The reason some big operators are pushing for the demise of the single desk system is they don't have to sell the product right away to pay those bills, they can wait for a good price. They know the smaller operators are screwed, they have to sell right away, they don't have that cushion.
ziggy @ Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:24 pm
Knoss Knoss:
$1:
Organic farming is a sham. People would be shocked to know how many chemicals used in agriculture for decades and made in a factory have quietly been certified as "organic". No where is a fool and his/her money parted with faster then the organic aisle of the local grocer.
Not sure about chemicals used, I do know that a lot more has to be cahrged before I will go thought the trouble of being organic.
Knoss @ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:58 pm
$1:
'family farms' or smaller opperations are actually more efficiant than the big guys. The only real advantage the big operations have is time.
After harvest there are bills to pay for the years production. The reason some big operators are pushing for the demise of the single desk system is they don't have to sell the product right away to pay those bills, they can wait for a good price. They know the smaller operators are screwed, they have to sell right away, they don't have that cushion.
After harvest there are bills to pay for the years production. The reason some big operators are pushing for the demise of the single desk system is they don't have to sell the product right away to pay those bills, they can wait for a good price. They know the smaller operators are screwed, they have to sell right away, they don't have that cushion.
Define efficient: According to the lean school over production and inventory are the tow largest wastes facing a business. Inventory management is part of doing business, if a farm can’t manage inventory, can’t ship grain to the elevator in February because the farmer is too lazy to change the oil in their truck, then whine all summer how their crop can not be sold, should not affect farm policy.
Small farms are often viable for growing things such as vegetables or when supplemented by off farm income, larger farms are viable as self sufficient operations; large farms employ a manager who organises full time labour to perform odd jobs in slow times and coordinates full and part time labour at busy times. In the small farms the farmer can do the work themselves getting custom work or family help at busy times. As such it is the medium sized farm.
Programs such as cost of production subsidies, or any subsidy in truth, only spur inflation; benefit goes only sellers of inputs (feed, fuel, young calves, inoculants). If a crash is inevitable then step beck and let it happen sooner.
Robair @ Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:15 pm
Knoss Knoss:
$1:
'family farms' or smaller opperations are actually more efficiant than the big guys. The only real advantage the big operations have is time.
After harvest there are bills to pay for the years production. The reason some big operators are pushing for the demise of the single desk system is they don't have to sell the product right away to pay those bills, they can wait for a good price. They know the smaller operators are screwed, they have to sell right away, they don't have that cushion.
After harvest there are bills to pay for the years production. The reason some big operators are pushing for the demise of the single desk system is they don't have to sell the product right away to pay those bills, they can wait for a good price. They know the smaller operators are screwed, they have to sell right away, they don't have that cushion.
Define efficient: According to the lean school over production and inventory are the tow largest wastes facing a business. Inventory management is part of doing business, if a farm can’t manage inventory, can’t ship grain to the elevator in February because the farmer is too lazy to change the oil in their truck, then whine all summer how their crop can not be sold, should not affect farm policy.
Knoss Knoss:
Small farms are often viable for growing things such as vegetables or when supplemented by off farm income, larger farms are viable as self sufficient operations; large farms employ a manager who organises full time labour to perform odd jobs in slow times and coordinates full and part time labour at busy times. In the small farms the farmer can do the work themselves getting custom work or family help at busy times. As such it is the medium sized farm.
Programs such as cost of production subsidies, or any subsidy in truth, only spur inflation; benefit goes only sellers of inputs (feed, fuel, young calves, inoculants). If a crash is inevitable then step beck and let it happen sooner.
Canada can not afford to compete with Europe and the USA in the subsidy game. The single desk is the Canadian farmer's advantage.
Programs such as cost of production subsidies, or any subsidy in truth, only spur inflation; benefit goes only sellers of inputs (feed, fuel, young calves, inoculants). If a crash is inevitable then step beck and let it happen sooner.