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AGRICULTURE "ALARM BELLS ARE RINGING"

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Banff @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:14 pm

OK I am not a farmer but this is important anyway . Canadian government wants to know what to do with agriculture over the next few months . Sorry I'm not going to post any links or media because I think it will only influence what you think or have to say .

If you have something to say then feel free besides it works out to the equivalent of your tax dollars or not :wink:

   



hwacker @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:32 pm

Ethanol plants, 40 of them need to be built. win win for everybody.

$140M for a 100M gallon plant.

   



dog77_1999 @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:59 pm

Get rid of the boards and let everyone sell to anyone. Let the market decide without any government interference. Take the subsidy money and turn it into tax breaks.

   



sandorski @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:04 pm

As long as the Ethanol plants don't turn into a way to Subsidize(meaning Tax $ needed to make them feasible) Agriculture, that would be a good idea.

Not sure what the issues with Agriculture are right now, so it's hard to really know what to suggest. That said, I'd like to see a 100% BSE testing program similar to France's, partly for Health concerns, but also for Trading Partners to have confidence in Canadian Beef. Supposedly BSE should cease being an issue in the not too distant future, so such a program likely won't be needed for long.

   



sandorski @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:04 pm

dang DP.

   



Banff @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:29 pm

I think its all really sad but something has to be done because most people seem to thing that agriculture ends at the check out at Safeway ...

   



sandorski @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:37 pm

Banff Banff:
I think its all really sad but something has to be done because most people seem to thing that agriculture ends at the check out at Safeway ...


...you're right, we need more Sewage Treatment Plants! :lol:

   



Banff @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:39 pm

sandorski sandorski:
Banff Banff:
I think its all really sad but something has to be done because most people seem to thing that agriculture ends at the check out at Safeway ...


...you're right, we need more Sewage Treatment Plants! :lol:


:oops: sorry I meant that most people seem to think agriculture starts in Isle 1 to 20 and don't really know how food gets on the shelves and they just heard in books that the steak they buy are from cattle but not really because it must be a seperate entity .

I guess I wrote it in the context of termite agriculture of people and their waste issues , I guess termites have their own AG issues .

   



sandorski @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:08 pm

Banff Banff:
sandorski sandorski:
Banff Banff:
I think its all really sad but something has to be done because most people seem to thing that agriculture ends at the check out at Safeway ...


...you're right, we need more Sewage Treatment Plants! :lol:


:oops: sorry I meant that most people seem to think agriculture starts in Isle 1 to 20 and don't really know how food gets on the shelves and they just heard in books that the steak they buy are from cattle but not really because it must be a seperate entity .

I guess I wrote it in the context of termite agriculture of people and their waste issues , I guess termites have their own AG issues .


np, just had to take advantage of your wording. ;)

Agree on the lack of knowledge by many, but that's to be expected in such a highly specialized society. Everybody takes for granted the labour of everyone else without having a clue what others do.

   



Schleihauf @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:30 pm

I'd be a farmer if I could make a living off of it.

   



Knoss @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:36 pm

I see no reason for the general public to be involved in farm policy. As to increasing the profitability of farms I think the biggest problem is overproduction, farms in this country produce driving down prices rather producing cheaper. It is presumed that higher production means more money but often this is not the case.

   



Banff @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:20 pm

Knoss Knoss:
I see no reason for the general public to be involved in farm policy. As to increasing the profitability of farms I think the biggest problem is overproduction, farms in this country produce driving down prices rather producing cheaper. It is presumed that higher production means more money but often this is not the case.


What do you suggest ?

   



Knoss @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:43 pm

Well that the market takes over, many farms are sustainable many are not as is the case in manufacturing, service industry, and eleswhere, so I suggest we let the ag markets crash, we watch as unsutainable farms go broke and sustainable ones take over. I think famers who are more buisness minded can benefit from low land prices.

Ethanol is coming, it works well as an addative, I am unsure abut E85 or pure ethanol fuels but ethanol is coming and it will bing up con prices which will bring up feed grain prices. Ethanol will be developed by the petrolum industry, I have no interest in the ethanol buisness nor should governemtns such as Saskatchewan try to place ethanol production with farmers.

As to marketing boards they are an ongoing debate. The biggest problem is that where there is supply managment or a manditory marketing board, farmers have fewer markeing decisions, some claim this helps the industry which it may and that marketing boards wouldn't work otherwise but the problem is that farmers have to sell to these boards, if the magority are aoposed they can vote to change it otherwise it is a minority issue and farmers should be free to sell grain elesewhere.

One thing that is clear a bout marketing boards is that they help in the exporting of grain and may increase costs to domestic value added industries.

   



sandorski @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:49 pm

Banff Banff:
Knoss Knoss:
I see no reason for the general public to be involved in farm policy. As to increasing the profitability of farms I think the biggest problem is overproduction, farms in this country produce driving down prices rather producing cheaper. It is presumed that higher production means more money but often this is not the case.


What do you suggest ?


I think that's why the CWB exists, to prevent over supplying the Market, but that's no longer an ideal solution.

Agriculture Canada has a lot of Research facilities throughout the Nation. Hopefully they can come up with some new things, but farmers need to continue to diversify, especially away from Wheat. Trouble is that Agriculture is turning into big business, todays Farmer is in the same boat that neighbourhood shoe maker was many decades ago, a dying breed taken over by virtual factories.

   



Knoss @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:04 pm

$1:
I think that's why the CWB exists, to prevent over supplying the Market, but that's no longer an ideal solution



CWB discontinued quotas in the 1970's. Now farmers contract what they produce and CWB tries too sell it, it is not supply managment.

$1:
Agriculture Canada has a lot of Research facilities throughout the Nation. Hopefully they can come up with some new things, but farmers need to continue to diversify, especially away from Wheat. Trouble is that Agriculture is turning into big business, todays Farmer is in the same boat that neighbourhood shoe maker was many decades ago, a dying breed taken over by virtual factories.



Research do you mena higher yeailds? I agree farms are becoming more buisness like and corperations are bieng developed, current policy gives first nations an advantage and they may be a good place for farmers to seek employment. I do not see any trouble it is just good buisiness. Too many farms are run on history, on running grandpa's farm. Thats the problem thiough, farmers 70 years ago were more buisness like when they built their farms or they abonded thier homesteads.

   



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