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PENATRATOR @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:58 pm

SonOfSam SonOfSam:
Do you speed 2Cdo? Ever?



Re read his post, he said he does. lol

   



SonOfSam @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:59 pm

Then lock him up, he is breakin' the law.

That seems to be the attitude here.

   



2Cdo @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:30 pm

Read the entire post simpleton, it is an entirely hypothetical scenario. You seem to think that speeding laws don't need enforcing, I'm just showing you how quickly things escalate. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

As for lock him up, the prescribed punishment for speeding is a ticket, not jail. Maybe a lesson in the Criminal Code of Canada is in order.

As for your question about do I speed, I'll reiterate, read my fucking post. You are quickly revealing yourself to be quite a simpleton. Before replying please try to read the entire post, if the big words give you a problem grab a dictionary.

   



2Cdo @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:34 pm

By the way my only point of agreeing with you in that other thread was that a guilty person when caught should be punished. In this thread you believe that the police should ignore your speeding(a crime) and concentrate on "real" crime! When you (or any other speeder incl. me) hits and kills someone does that now qualify as a "real" crime or should we ignore because you were only speeding and didn't mean to hurt anyone?

   



SonOfSam @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:38 pm

Should the police ignore your speeding? You do speed, do you not? And when you use the "I didn't mean to" excuse it is called manslaughter. I bet you go home and bawl yer eyes out after you get a ticket.


So, you actually do choose which laws you will ignore, so why stop at speeding? Why not kill the guy next door because his dogs barks too loud?

You are a fucking hypocrite! You rag on me for this and you admit to speeding! Yes, I speed, I love speeding but guess what? I aint selling coke to kids, I aint pimping whores and I aint killing people. On the grand scale of things how bad is speeding?

   



ShepherdsDog @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:29 pm

There's a reason that there is a speed limit on highways just as there are reason's why you can't drive after consuming a certain amount of alcohol. I amazed that this simple fact seems to elude you. Do you have the attitude that one or two drinks more than the legal limit, before you get behind the wheel and speed, is ok too?

   



Blue_Nose @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:13 pm

Take a look at all the vehicular accidents in the news, and the percentage of them that speeding was deemed to be a factor.

Speeding tickets save lives, but, sadly, it still isn't enough.

   



Dayseed @ Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:25 pm

SonOfSam SonOfSam:
Should the police ignore your speeding? You do speed, do you not? And when you use the "I didn't mean to" excuse it is called manslaughter.


If you're quoting Canadian law there, you're a tad mistaken in your interpretation of what constitutes manslaughter and it's rather complex.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with your comment (and, quite frankly, I don't think you do either), but S.222 of the Criminal Code of Canada defines what is homicide, being culpable or not culpable.

"I didn't mean to" can be sufficient to effect the homicide being non-culpable, provided that the action which caused the death, whatever it may be, is not criminally negligent. Essentially, S.219 of the Criminal Code defines criminally negligent as an act which shows wanton or reckless disregard for the lives or safety of other persons.

Going back to the non-culpable homicide, an example would be causing fatal anaphylactic shock in a person allergic to peanuts by feeding them peanut contaminated food and not knowing of their allergy and/or that the food was contaminated. "I didn't mean to!" applies to make that homicide non-culpable. S.222(3) says that's not an offence.

However, moving back to culpable homicide, manslaugter is a heat of the moment "sudden-provocation" murder, regardless of intent to kill. Find your wife in bed with the vacuum salesman and eviscerate them both right then and there? Manslaughter. This is a situation where you would be correct in your original assertion as "I didn't mean to!" still applies to culpable homicide.

However, S.234 makes all culpable homicide that is not murder or infantacide manslaughter. It greys out here as to the "I didn't mean to" defense you referred to earlier.

The point of all this is that the law is not as simple as you make it out to be, nor it is it required to be. To simply equate the breaking of one law with the breaking of any other law and to deal with them equitably is sheer folly. It is akin to saying that all things for sale must cost the same price, regardless of it being a car, television, airplane, haircut or french-fry, because they are for sale. Jesus View More Emoticons Christ!

If you want to speed, fine then, speed. However, keep in mind that the police resources devoted to apprehending speeders may be for more cause than simply filling coffers and angering motorists. Police are, by oath and purpose, responsible for public safety. Curbing speeding, in a school zone for instance, is a good idea with regards to public safety. A child getting run over is caused by a multitude of factors; visibility, visibility of child, road conditions, time of day, weather, likelihood of child on or near road etc. Not all of these factors can be mitigated and some, like visibility of child, are beyond control of government or police. However, police CAN reduce the chances of a child getting struck by a car by reducing the speed of the car. It only makes natural sense that a slow moving car is less likely to strike a child, regardless of ANY other conditions, than a fast moving one.

Consequently, if residents in a particular neighbourhood feel that motorists are speeding and increasing this danger, the police are required (I certainly don't mean to imply that they are compelled against their will!) to ameliorate it using the one tool they have in their repetoire: enforcing speed laws.

This sort of logic applies to stretches of highways where there are statistically more accidents, long weekends where people are in hurries etc.

However, if you wish to keep viewing the world through your own peculiar lens disregarding everything else, good for you. Enjoy the speeding tickets.

   



forby4 @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:30 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
Sonofsam and furby, you both need to grow up. The police are there to uphold the law, all the laws, not just the ones you specify. Using your logic that they should always be working and never stop for a break, what do you propose we do about firemen or the military? It seems to me that fire fighters spend about 90% of their time sitting around the fire hall, and the military hardly ever go to war.
For near eight pages I read your rantings about speeding, and how all cops are just donut swilling bums. You two owe me for wasting my time reading some of the most asinine comments ever to be posted on this site. Fucking grow up!


I owe you...................Ha, you're hillarious!!!!!! If you're stupid enough to read eight pages of what you consider "rantings" then it's your mother who owes' you..............a few more brain cells!!!

   



SonOfSam @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:12 am

So, how many people here drive over the speed limit? Be honest, how many of you out there speed whenever you get behind the wheel? How many speed occasionally?

   



forby4 @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:19 am

SonOfSam SonOfSam:
So, how many people here drive over the speed limit? Be honest, how many of you out there speed whenever you get behind the wheel? How many speed occasionally?


When I drive my truck I usually keep it at around 110km/h. It goes through too much gas over that. But when I had a camaro, on the highway it was usually around 120 -130. I tried not to speed in town but loved to roast the tires. But of course you might end up over the limit in town sometimes, unless you're granny!!!!!

   



ShepherdsDog @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:33 am

$1:
I tried not to speed in town but loved to roast the tires. But of course you might end up over the limit in town sometimes, unless you're granny!!!!!


So you're one of the numbnuts that thinks it's ok to speed in school zones, on residential streets and around playgrounds are you? Just remember, after you graduate from highschool, the penalties for killing someone get a little stiffer.

   



SonOfSam @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:35 am

Do you ever speed Shepherds Dog? You ever get out onto the highway and do 10-15 kms over the limit?

   



ShepherdsDog @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:44 am

Not unless there is something wrong with my spedometer. I've never had a speeding ticket in the 22 yrs I've had a driving license.

   



SonOfSam @ Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:50 am

You are telling me you never speed, ever? Not once in 22 years? Not getting caught does not me you don't speed.

   



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