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I hope your stay on the forum is not a long one. You need to learn some manners.

   

And this is why we need more police officers for Domestic disturbances.

   

November 2005 Report of the Auditor General

Ottawa, 22 November 2005—The RCMP fulfills its obligations to provide police services under contract to provinces, territories, and municipalities across Canada, says the Auditor General of Canada, Sheila Fraser, in her Report tabled today in the House of Commons. However, it needs to improve staffing and training.

"The RCMP's clients say they appreciate the quality of the peace officers assigned to them," said Ms. Fraser. "However, we found problems with staffing and training that need to be addressed."

The audit found that new recruits do not always receive six months of training in the field under the supervision of a senior officer. Furthermore, planning for replacements is inadequate and the RCMP risks overloading the contract peace officers.

For the most part, the RCMP has provided the number of peace officers it is obligated to provide under contracts with provinces, territories, and municipalities but it has done so at the expense of its federal policing responsibilities, such as fighting organized crime.

Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada (PSEPC) has negotiated agreements to provide First Nations communities with policing services, which the RCMP delivers. But PSEPC does not monitor the agreements' implementation properly, and the RCMP is not meeting some of the commitments in the agreements—for example, ensuring that peace officers assigned to these communities spend at least 80 percent of their time on the reserve.

"The RCMP's ability to meet its commitments is key to the safety and security of the 20 percent of Canadians who depend on it as their primary police force," said Ms. Fraser.

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How many of you MUST hit Tim Hortons on the way to work? Well I know by driving by it on my way to work I see thousands of Civilian cars lined up there a week like lab rats. What makes it wrong for a Copper to have a coffee? What do you do on coffee breaks if you work in an office enviroment? Go to the coffee room maybe? Well the patrol car is an office for PC's, if they choose to get a coffee they are no different than the majority of this population that is addicted to Double Double's. Put in 12 hour night shift's if you don't already, see if you need a caffine pick me up around 3 AM.

Oh and Gangler, if nobody told you yet, please feel free to F off.

   

Plus, Pen, the majority of people don't wear uniforms to work... if real estate agents, librarians, architects, etc etc took ten coffee breaks a day, you'd never notice.

   

Yes, Police officers are in uniform, like military members, and everything they do is under the microscope. The Police and the Military will always be watched by the public, no matter what they do. Here is the difference, the majority of real estate agents, librarians, architects, etc are not being paid paid by the government to protect the citizens of this country. The public will see these police officers doing nothing and be very critical of their actions. I cannot blame the public, we pay police officers allot of money but there are still too many crimes being committed, and speed traps seem to be the only concern by the police. Also, stated in the above article, 80% of an officers time should be spent on the reserve in certain communities? That is just wrong!!! Yes, I wish I could walk out of work anytime I want to go to Tim Hortons, like the police, but I have work to do. Also, why is it right for police officers to use thier police cars for personal use? Is that okay? Damn, I hate paying over $1 per litre, but I do not use the comapny car to run my errands, I use MY own truck, you know the one.... it's green and I pay for the fuel, not the tax payers!

   

Well Son of Sam, if you can figure out a way to drive your desk to the drive thru, go right ahead. Many Cop cars are equiped with computers so the officer can stay on the road without returning to the detatchment. The car is their office.

   

I think you are missing the point.

   

Actually SonofSam, I'd say you were missing the other point. Firstly, you state that a police officer can go "anytime" they want. Really? While interviewing somebody at their house about stolen tools, the cop just gets up and ducks out for a quick Timmy's?

Secondly, unlike librarians, architects and real estate agents, the police are an on-demand service. Should a need arise for a real estate agent to be present somewhere, it isn't critical they be there immediately. They would have time to drive back to work from Timmy's, collect a company car and head out to the sale. Ditto most other professions.

If, in your world, the police are expected to provide their own transportation to get lunch or get a coffee, how would you explain to a victim or their family the delay involved with the police returning to the station to collect a car to speed out to the domestic assault?

Lastly, dude, it's a perquisite of the job. Would you like to be able to drive a government car to get coffee? Join the police. Apparently, the RCMP are short a couple of people and may give your application a second look.

   

Yeah, when my brothers car was stolen it took the Police hours to get there, they must have stopped for coffee on the way to his house.

I am wondering if everyone here will have such a high opinion of the police when they are violated, their house is broken into, family member gets murdered, car gets stolen, when they are assaulted, etc etc etc

I am in full support of DUI checks and busting drunks on the road, but speeding is a small issue when you look at what is really going on out there.

And I do not think it is okay for the RCMP to use thier police cars for personal use, if they want coffee than buy a thermos, they want lunch than brown bag it, there are millions of people who do just that everyday!

   

Exactly as I suspected. You have your own adgenda. A bad experience and you paint a profession. Get out of the house son, it's a big world. So what about the victim of a wreckless speeder whose family lost a loved one? What do you think they would have to say? Doing traffic enforcement is not important? Can't please everybody.

Dayseed Great post

   

Personal agenda? All I have to do is watch the news any day of the week to see victims, whom I have never met, who have been violated by criminals. Is that a personal agenda? So something happened to a family member, that does that make this my personal agenda? No, it's just you twisting the facts.

How come when I watch the news I always see people talking about the guns, drugs, vandalism, break and enters, drive by shootings, prostitution, theft, etc, but they are never talking about people going 10 kilometres over the limit down their street? Wait until you are the victim and the criminal gets away with it. Lets see how happy you are then.

   

Not in the news, eh?

This one is from here, I'm sure you can come up with your own local examples:

   

If memory serves.....the topic of this thread was shortages of manpower. Go out for a ride along somenight with your local force. See what goes on before you are so quick to judge.

   

Sure, I could go for a ride along, I like coffee!

There were over 80 break and enters in a small community out here last year, how many arrests were made? None. Another guy here had his house broken into and literally destroyed, the culprits were cought, 3 teenage boys ages 13 and 14 AND a 21 year old, they confessed on tape, laughing, saying they didn't care, because it was fun. They walked away from that, no charges no punishment... NOTHING!

Blue Nose, there is a difference between speeding and dangerous driving. Is it dangerous for me to do 80 in a 60 zone on a clear day in Saskatchewan when there is nothing remotely close for 400 kilomteres?

But hey, I guess you guys think that there is NO problem with crime in this country, other than guys like me who drive a little too fast for your liking.

   

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