Welfare Drug Test?
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mtbr @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:40 pm
Ripcat Ripcat:
Yeah, I'd rather pay over $100,000 a year to lock someone up in prison than give them $10,000 a year in welfare....
How about spending a couple of hundred giving them drug tests so they don't end up in prison or **cked up for their rest of their lives
Ripcat @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:44 pm
mtbr mtbr:
Ripcat Ripcat:
Yeah, I'd rather pay over $100,000 a year to lock someone up in prison than give them $10,000 a year in welfare....
How about spending a couple of hundred giving them drug tests so they don't end up in prison or **cked up for their rest of their lives
How is a drug test going to get an addict to stop using?
mtbr @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:24 pm
Ripcat Ripcat:
mtbr mtbr:
Ripcat Ripcat:
Yeah, I'd rather pay over $100,000 a year to lock someone up in prison than give them $10,000 a year in welfare....
How about spending a couple of hundred giving them drug tests so they don't end up in prison or **cked up for their rest of their lives
How is a drug test going to get an addict to stop using?
Duh...maybe it will catch him before he becomes an addict.
Are you going to tell me people are born drug addicts?
Yogi @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:41 pm
Ripcat Ripcat:
Yeah, I'd rather pay over $100,000 a year to lock someone up in prison than give them $10,000 a year in welfare....
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Ripcat @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:52 pm
Yogi Yogi:
Ripcat Ripcat:
Yeah, I'd rather pay over $100,000 a year to lock someone up in prison than give them $10,000 a year in welfare....
Sarcasm.
Ripcat @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:00 pm
mtbr mtbr:
Ripcat Ripcat:
mtbr mtbr:
Ripcat Ripcat:
Yeah, I'd rather pay over $100,000 a year to lock someone up in prison than give them $10,000 a year in welfare....
How about spending a couple of hundred giving them drug tests so they don't end up in prison or **cked up for their rest of their lives
How is a drug test going to get an addict to stop using?
Duh...maybe it will catch him before he becomes an addict.
WTF are you talking about? He already knows he is using drugs.
$1:
Are you going to tell me people are born drug addicts?
Studies have claimed that some people are born more likely get addicted to something. I've met enough people in my life to say that could very well be true.
kenmore @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:08 pm
big cop out there..oh if you dont support me by going to your job every day and paying taxes that will cover my drugs,, I will break into you house and steal your stuff or beat you up or rob a sote or kill someone... fuck... get a life.. they should test all welfare recipients.. and I know there are some people that fall on hard times and need help. I have no issue with that.. but welfare to support drug habits... no way man!
kenmore @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:08 pm
oops typo ... thats rob a store ,, but you get the idea
Ripcat @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:23 pm
We should brand welfare recipients on the forehead so they can't buy beer, cigarettes, junkfood, lottery tickets, liquor, take taxicabs, go to bingo, go to casinos.....
As far as I know we don't even pay their rent directly to their landlord because its an invasion of privacy.
I'm not exactly sure how someone making over 60 grand a year equates their drug test to someone on welfare but I think some may be a bit jealous that they can't light one up this weekend because they may get spot checked next week.
Benoit @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:53 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Benoit Benoit:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Drug tests for Welfare recipients is a step in the right direction.
No, drug tests for active people like professional athletes are a step in the right direction.
Most leagues already do some testing, and those athletes don't get paid by my tax dollars anyway. If I don't want to contribute to outrageous salaries, I don't pay to watch them.
Public money is often subsidizing the buildings where these athletes play.
mtbr @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:58 pm
Ripcat Ripcat:
We should brand welfare recipients on the forehead so they can't buy beer, cigarettes, junkfood, lottery tickets, liquor, take taxicabs, go to bingo, go to casinos.....
As far as I know we don't even pay their rent directly to their landlord because its an invasion of privacy.
I'm not exactly sure how someone making over 60 grand a year equates their drug test to someone on welfare but I think some may be a bit jealous that they can't light one up this weekend because they may get spot checked next week.
As far as I know we don't even pay their rent directly to their landlord because its an invasion of privacy.
I'm not exactly sure how someone making over 60 grand a year equates their drug test to someone on welfare but I think some may be a bit jealous that they can't light one up this weekend because they may get spot checked next week.
good idea
ever hear of food stamps?
no smokes or booze
how about rent stamps ?
and public work programs?
mtbr @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:01 pm
Benoit Benoit:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Benoit Benoit:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Drug tests for Welfare recipients is a step in the right direction.
No, drug tests for active people like professional athletes are a step in the right direction.
Most leagues already do some testing, and those athletes don't get paid by my tax dollars anyway. If I don't want to contribute to outrageous salaries, I don't pay to watch them.
Public money is often subsidizing the buildings where these athletes play.
true...and those buildings are also used by the public
but I agree NHL teams should build their own arenas and receive ZERO public funds.
If they can't survive in Canada relocate to the US
Ex-Expat @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:05 pm
kenmore kenmore:
big cop out there..oh if you dont support me by going to your job every day and paying taxes that will cover my drugs,, I will break into you house and steal your stuff or beat you up or rob a sote or kill someone... fuck... get a life.. they should test all welfare recipients.. and I know there are some people that fall on hard times and need help. I have no issue with that.. but welfare to support drug habits... no way man!
Notice, Kenmore, that my previous post about that was entirely glossed over.
Again I say: Illicit drugs are expensive. If you are on welfare and can still afford to use, then you obviously have too damned much money.
And that comes from someone who was on welfare just long enough to become self-sufficient, while watching many other recipients use it to support their drug habits. It is precisely these experiences that make me not want to pay for people like that.
For those of you talking about the costs of testing welfare recipients... how about all the money saved by cutting off all those people who are using it to buy drugs? It could be put toward other things that actually benefit the public.
For you who are getting hung up on the actual process, I've had a few of these and trust me... they are professionally done at a medical lab and there are established procedures to ensure you don't cheat, without having to actually stand there and watch you.
Benoit @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:16 pm
mtbr mtbr:
Benoit Benoit:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Benoit Benoit:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Drug tests for Welfare recipients is a step in the right direction.
No, drug tests for active people like professional athletes are a step in the right direction.
Most leagues already do some testing, and those athletes don't get paid by my tax dollars anyway. If I don't want to contribute to outrageous salaries, I don't pay to watch them.
Public money is often subsidizing the buildings where these athletes play.
true...and those buildings are also used by the public
but I agree NHL teams should build their own arenas and receive ZERO public funds.
If they can't survive in Canada relocate to the US
When it comes to drugs, we have to understand the deep relationship between passivity (i.e. welfare recipients) and activity (workers, entrepreneurs, politicians, athleles, etc.):
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek- ... bject.html
Wally_Sconce @ Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:16 pm
testing welfare recipients have only one purpose, to create more homeless drug addicts.
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