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And the USA prosecuted the people responsible for that.

   

Too true.

   

It is common knowledge that wars of aggression are illegal. No better than the Nazis invading Poland.

   

Yeah with a slap on the wrist.

What about all the other stuff. Like agent orange ect. People are still being born screwed up because of it.

   

Yes, you are right that the Communist invasion of South Vietnam was illegal and a war of aggression.

The UN condemned the Communist invasion of South Vietnam and the response of the SEATO led by the USA was legal so far as the UN was concerned.

   

Ah, this would explain a lot with your line of debate.

   

The truth here is that the USA signed the Paris peace accords in 1973. The north attacked the south in 1975. The usa pulled out already so in essence we did not lose. The liberal forced us not to act in 1975 because they were to busy with Watergate. But I undersatnd we did not acheieve our goal.

The truth of the matter is it Vietnam was a hot battle in the Cold war which the USA and Canada and all of our allies won.

   

Not to say the Americans won in Viet Nam but they did win most battles against both the VC and NVA. What lost the war was when the people back home got tired of seeing young men returning in body bags, and having a mostly conscript military didn't help at all!

Other things that contributed to the loss was fighting a "body count" war and not seizing and holding ground. The fact that the North under a communist system was prepared to sacrifice more lives than the US spelled the end of any chance of winning the war. I believe it was General Giap who said we don't have to win any battles, we just have to outlast them.

I hate to admit seeing parrallels but home support for the war in Iraq does seem to be losing support with each new round of casualties. The thought of massive casualties does seem to scare the western nations, whereas radical Islam groups are playing the same game as North Viet Nam, just outlast them.

   

We won a pyrrhic victory, though, that was a deterrent to the USSR in other parts of the globe. By being willing to be the Captain Ahab who pursued the White Whale to his own demise the Russians basically said to themselves, "Those Americans are effin' crazy!"

   

If the americans won in Vietnam, then why is Vietnam still communist?

   

Actualy, didn't Vietnam recently change to Capitolism? I remember seeing one of those Filibuster cartoons in the links section on the homepage talking about it.

   

No, Dark Canuck, they are still Communism as communism doesn't magically change to Capitolism. Especially in the East Asian countries. Besides I read somewhere that the leader of Vietnam is going to be visiting the U.S and Canada sometime. First time since 1971 or something like that. I wonder what Americans will feel about that.

   

I prefer that he try to write in English, even if sometimes incorrect. Translating his French loses much or the message.

   

True, since the british offensives failed as well, the whole burning of washington was a diversionary tactic, for the forces which were to sweep into the US from New Orleans and Canada... But of course the battle of New Orleans and the Battles in New York both went thoroughly in the favor of the US, thus ending the british hopes for a victory.

Not to mention the US burning of the Parliament in York was a far greater success, since cannons were among the royalties of war, while all the british soldiers in washington got were trinkets.

   

Minus five for the Nazi comparison.

   

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