Canada Annexed???

Most of the time Johnny I enjoy your posts and the way they get people motivated. I suggest you read these pages and maybe you'll get some food for thought'

US sponsored coup

Drug war

...Well...actually, if you guys want to continue be my guest, it's just that it looks like it isn't really going anywhere...

JohnnyB: I agree that our armed forces shouldn't be geared solely towards defending Canada against an American invasion. That would be a terrible waste of money and would possibly precipitate such an invasion!! But I do support mcpuck's hypothesis, if I understand it correctly, that having a contingency plan for such an attack is desirable and can be achieved without alienating the U.S. All the measures that could strengthen Canada vis-a-vis the U.S. would also, in my view, help enhance Canada's contribution to North American security. As for your comments about power corrupting people (and societies?), I agree, but even if we doubled Canada's defence expenditure to roughly 2.5% of GDP (and I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen!), Canada would hardly emerge as a major global military power.

As for your idea of a merged "North American Armed Forces", I'm dead set against it. I really feel strongly that Canada must be a part of the world, rather than be isolated within a "Fortress North America". I'm not yet convinced that North Korea is much of a threat to Canada, and am quite confident that China isn't either. If Americans (or other Canadians, for that matter) feel otherwise, that's fine with me, it's something that can be debated. It's not because I reject any Canadian friendship and cooperation with America, it's just that in my view the degree of integration between Canada and the U.S. is already excessive. You mentioned yourself how closely entwined our economies are!!

And I'm not singling out the U.S. here: I would feel the same way about France or any other country if Canada was placed in a position of dependency on it (Christ... France! We'd be up to our armpits in hairy armpits!!)

The CIA World Fact Book is accurate as far as it goes. When it lists the Queen/GG as head of government it does not mention that they have no real power though. The Queen and GG are de facto figureheads. Although they still officially retain power, if they were to use that power against the will of the Canadian people (or the British people for that matter) they would quickly be officially stripped of that power.

Sorry Uof Sask person. You are obviously one of those people who refuse to believe irrefutable facts. Absolutely no point in continuing this discussion with you as you are demonstrating contrary points in a manner more suitable to a grade school debate.
Have a nice day and do continue your studies. You need to.

its suicidal for the us to invade canada!!
1- i dont think that any canadian living on earth will allows to become an americain (eee.sure im wrong, there is always traitor in every faction)
2- imagine the money used to invade in a large scale invasion.
3- im sure canadians troop is very well trainned to defend our kind of land.
4- diplomatic : how much canada have allie?? quebec have indefectible tie with france and france itsselft love canada. and the ontarian and the roc sure have allie with british.
well, connection all those 4 or 5 thing in the ugly name of money surelly will stop the u.s
so sleep well that will not happen tomorow. but that will make a great book to read if someone write about-it

the best to defeat an invading army is giving lots of waepons to civil to defend ourself from the invader with the concert of a army

Is it just my eyes or did that forum do a chop and repeat.

oh didnt read all the post here too long, i wanted only to express my opinion of this children-war-dream.

but for the civiliian, its could be quite usefull to support our army in our land in battle. i did one time fire some shot of pistol, carabin and a sniper
sure its not-easy to handle the recoil and the aiming and the maintenance of a weapon but sure canada could have militia trained to defend the country in the case of a invasion. even several faction separatist non govermental have some militia hidding somewhere in the platteau montroyal

The Canadians are right along side the Americans in Afganastan....where the ppl who attacked the U.S. are hidding....they are not in Iraq..because Iraq did not attack the states...If Iraq attacked the U.S., the Canadians men and women would be there with them...this i have no doubt ...Both wars saw Canadians years before the Americans...why...because our friends needed help...and even more so...the cause was just....the majority of Canadians i would THINK...feel that the war in Iraq...is not the war on terrorism we agreed to help with....and we are not the only ones...Americans take note...Canadians ...when talking to ppl from other countries other than the U.S. mostly back you up...mostly....we will probably trash your government...but will stress that the average American is no different the we as Canadians...

ah christianism and catolitism is that this country is made of : english and french. johnny your are my prophet
lets finish this topic with a Story!!

War for Independence
Canadian Campaign
1775-1776
In the spring of 1775, Fort Ticonderoga fell to the forces of Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold, giving the rebels a hold on the strategic spot between lakes Champlain and George. American leaders contemplated their next move and learned that a British army was being formed in Canada under Sir Guy Carleton. It was hoped that an invasion of Canada by the Americans would ignite rebellion there and disrupt British war plans for invading the rebellious colonies.

George Washington, with the approval of the Congress, authorized a northern strike under the command of General Philip Schuyler. Brigadier General Richard Montgomery was to lead the advance party from Ticonderoga and, according to the plan, later join with Schuyler and their combined force of 1,100 men outside Montreal. Montgomery was less than thrilled with his army, complaining that he had all generals and no soldiers. Nonetheless, he departed in late August and was quickly able set up a siege outside of St. John’s in Canadian territory south of Montreal. That position fell to the Americans in early November, but Schuyler was not able to participate on account of ill health.

British strength in Canada was not great and it was decided not to contest the Americans at Montreal and instead remove their forces to the more easily defended fortress at Quebec. Montgomery occupied Montreal on November 13 and later left 800 men there to hold the city while he led his remaining force of 300 men toward Quebec.

Meanwhile, also acting under orders from Washington, Benedict Arnold had gathered a force of over 1,000 men at Cambridge. In September, they had set sail from Newburyport to Gardiner, Maine, intending to converge on Quebec in concert with the Schuyler-Montgomery force which would proceed along the St. Lawrence River.

Arnold and his men had the more difficult task. The initial push up the Kennebec River on flat-bottomed boats was relatively easy, but after that the army had to make a long portage over very difficult terrain. Making matters worse, winter conditions came early to backwoods Maine. Wind, ice and snow slowed the advance through swamplands and over mountains. Provisions ran low and the men resorted to eating their dogs and attempting to eat their moccasins. In late October, one division returned home.

On November 8, Arnold’s army, then numbering about 650 men, arrived on the banks of the St. Lawrence. The British had been warned of their approach and had taken the precaution of destroying all of the boats on that portion of the river, excepting their warships. The Americans had to forage over great distances to secure enough birch bark and other essential for the construction of canoes to cross the river. With that task completed, the Americans were able to slip past the British fleet on November 13. Arnold and his men scaled the cliffs outside Quebec, arriving on the Plains of Abraham — the scene of the most famous battle of the French and Indian War 16 years earlier. Arnold hoped to repeat that earlier success by luring Carleton into an open fight outside the city. The British commander, however, had served with James Wolfe and was not inclined to repeat Montcalm’s mistake. Despite his numerical superiority, Carleton remained within the fortress. Lacking sufficient manpower and ammunition, and with British reinforcements on the wary, Arnold decided not to attack and pulled back to a position about 20 miles upstream from Quebec.
The enlistment term of many of the American soldiers expired on January 1. Therefore, at 2 a.m. on December 31, the armies of Montgomery and Arnold launched an attack against the strongest fort in North America during the height of a blinding snowstorm. Montgomery fell mortally wounded in the initial assault and later Arnold had a bone in his leg broken by a musket ball. The American attack failed utterly; 100 were killed and about 300 captured.

A wintertime march back to American territory would have been certain death. Arnold’s army remained outside Quebec and suffered horribly from the cold and the lack of food. In the spring, reinforcements arrived, but the decision was made to forego any further offensive. The American retreated to Montreal, where they were joined by the occupying forces and all marched south to the safety of Crown Point with Carleton and a British army at their heels. During this retreat, Arnold provided some of his most impressive service, harassing his pursuers and making their lives miserable. Dispirited British soldiers later returned to Montreal.

The American leadership had totally misjudged anti-British sentiment in Canada. No uprising occurred and Canada remained British.

LOL....I seemed to have posted my comment in the wrong section....note to self....smoke less pot......disregard.