Danish to Burn the Qu'ran
hwacker @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:43 am
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and who are the crazy ones?
Tricks @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:45 am
VitaminC VitaminC:
Tricks Tricks:
So the reaction came from the news reporting the news

Slap in the face? LOL Go watch a southpark cartoon. Do you realize how much they make fun of christians and christian beliefs? Do you see christians running down the streets torching the studio? NO. Because it is humor.
That's right. But we live in a completely different culture. We believe in separation of religion and state, etc......right now Religion and State are the same to them......
If we want them to change, insulting them is not the way to do it......
The founders of North America burned a lot of women to death on stakes because they considered them to be blasphemous.......
We need to encourage them to change the way we have changed.....and insulting them is not the way you do it......Insulting them just alienates them and isolates them.....it makes it worse.
So reporting news brought on the reaction? Tell me, does that make sense?
We can't change them, in fact we shouldn't have too, but
we should not have to change for
them
Salem witch trials? That was in like the 1600s. That over 300 years ago. We changed because we realized that what we were doing was wrong. They don't believe they are wrong. They are, but they don't see it. There is no point in trying to show them that though....because then you would be a racist.
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You should read up on Sharia law and the do's and dont's of Islam,it will scare the shit out of you. Sorry but no respect for that here.
Just think Taliban or Hamas. The ultimate goal of Islam is to convert everyone except the jews. There's some exceptions but not many will be spared.
Believe me, I understand Sharia Law a hell of a lot better than you. We went through the whole thing in Ontario where it almost become practiced here....
Sharia Law means Law Based on the Qu'ran. So since there are many interpretations of the Qu'ran, there are many interpretations of Sharia Law. Most are extremely oppressive, some are not.
Interesting to note here, that the goal of Osama bin Ladin is to have a strict version of Sharia Law implemented throughout the middle-east. His war is not against westerners, it is against muslims who believe in a "softer" interpretation of the Qu'ran....The hatred towards us comes from the fact that we support muslims who believe in the "softer" Islam.
I saw interviews with palestinians who are scared of the Sharia Law that will begin in Palestine through Hamas. They are scared they will no longer be able to go to pool halls and such.....Hamas has also said they're going to have a referendum on whether or not boys and girls should be taught together or separately.....
The cartoons are not an attack on the hard extremist Sharia Law, they are an attack on all interpretations.....
Another interesting note, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the former Iraq are not considered to be hard-extremist Sharia type states......
The biggest threat to the Syrian Government's power and Saudi Arabia's power are extremist muslims......
QBC @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:51 am
hwacker hwacker:

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and who are the crazy ones?
I'm sure as hell not saying that their reaction is right or justified, it's not, but there was no reason to make these cartoons. Comparing this to bugs bunny? come on hwacker, not the same thing and you know it.
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They don't understand why freedom of expression is important to us. And for the next twenty years this incident will define for them what freedom of expression means ....it's really sad.
No it's not sad, maybe now western countries will stop bending over to appease these low lives. Don't forget these are the same people who condone suicide bombing in the name of their religion. How many innocent deaths in name of their religion will it take before we stand up and say no more. We are fighting a war against terrorism this is just another step in that battle.
All you people defending their actions are traitors to your own country.
Tricks Tricks:
So reporting news brought on the reaction? Tell me, does that make sense?
They were not reporting the news. Canadian news agencies reported the news in a professional way.
The European newspapers did not report/discuss what happened, they simply printed the cartoons in a highy offensive manner.....
They did things like have the entire front page covered in large blown-up versions of the cartoons...that's not news....
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They don't understand why freedom of expression is important to us. And for the next twenty years this incident will define for them what freedom of expression means ....it's really sad.
No it's not sad, maybe now western countries will stop bending over to appease these low lives. Don't forget these are the same people who condone suicide bombing in the name of their religion
You know what? They are not the same people.
You call me a traitor, but you would endanger our soldier's lives to protect a stupid cartoon......
I think you could be a little more respectful towards the safety of our soldiers in Afganistan, because they are in a lot more danger now because of the cartoons you support.
Tricks @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:00 am
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So reporting news brought on the reaction? Tell me, does that make sense?
They were not reporting the news. Canadian news agencies reported the news in a professional way.
The European newspapers did not report/discuss what happened, they simply printed the cartoons in a highy offensive manner.....
They did things like have the entire front page covered in large blown-up versions of the cartoons...that's not news....
Ok, there was a protest in denmark right? Well if it was big enough then it would be reported in neighbouring countries right? Well why would you report a protest without the cause. Canada did not report any of this until the riots broke out. Thats why we didn't report it the same way.
Tricks Tricks:
Canada did not report any of this until the riots broke out. Thats why we didn't report it the same way.
Actually they did. When I first read the story in the globe a week and a half ago there had been no violence....
And it was not a protest in Denmark, it was a protest in Saudi Arabia encouraging people to stop buying goods imported from Denmark......
It only became a big story when it was escalated to riots.....
Muslims peacefully protesting is not a big story.
Muslims rioting is a big story.
What does that say about us?
Tricks @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:11 am
VitaminC VitaminC:
Tricks Tricks:
Canada did not report any of this until the riots broke out. Thats why we didn't report it the same way.
Actually they did. When I first read the story in the globe 2-3 days ago there had been no violence....
And it was not a protest in Denmark, it was a protest in Saudi Arabia encouraging people to stop buying goods imported from Denmark......
It only became a big story when it was escalated to riots.....
Muslims peacefully protesting is not a big story.
Muslims rioting is a big story.
What does that say about us?
ummmm nothing? How would a small protest matter compared to a riot?
Here's an article that appeared in the globe January 26. That's a week before last Thursday.
It's an interesting article. Read it here...
Tricks Tricks:
ummmm nothing? How would a small protest matter compared to a riot?
It actually was not a small protest, and was a fairly major story.
What it says is that when Muslims protest peacefully we ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.....
When a riot happens, we define their entire existence by that riot.
Tricks @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:21 am
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ummmm nothing? How would a small protest matter compared to a riot?
It actually was not a small protest, and was a fairly major story.
What it says is that when Muslims protest peacefully we ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.....
When a riot happens, we define their entire existence by that riot.
We didn't ignore a protest. There are always protests, we are not going to report every single one. This riot obviously is a huge deal. To major riots within 4 months of eachother? Is that not a bigger deal then a protest?
hwacker @ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:31 am
QBC QBC:
I'm sure as hell not saying that their reaction is right or justified, it's not, but there was no reason to make these cartoons. Comparing this to bugs bunny? come on hwacker, not the same thing and you know it.
Ok he looks like the Elmer Fudd of the Middle East to me.
Be vewy vewy qwiet...I'm hunting (wabbits) infidels
C'mon be serious, it's a cartoon.
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VitaminC VitaminC:
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ummmm nothing? How would a small protest matter compared to a riot?
It actually was not a small protest, and was a fairly major story.
What it says is that when Muslims protest peacefully we ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.....
When a riot happens, we define their entire existence by that riot.
We didn't ignore a protest. There are always protests, we are not going to report every single one. This riot obviously is a huge deal. To major riots within 4 months of eachother? Is that not a bigger deal then a protest?
Muslims do not protest peacefully all the time. When it does happen we should make it a big story and encourage it.....
I really think we lost a great opportunity here to help bring their culture a little closer to the 21st century.....instead we've watched it push back a little further towards the 16th century....
You're right when you say it's not our responsibility to make them change. We can live with war and constant violence if thats what we chose.
We can also take the initiative and try to steer them towards what we think is a better way of life......It's not a responsibility, it's a choice on what kind of world we want to live in .....