Organized Muslim action burns 80+ cars in Sweden
DrCaleb @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:01 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
This article lists the new additions to the list and note that Gothenburg is right in there as a Muslim-controlled 'no-go' zone.
https://www.thelocal.se/20170612/especi ... den-report
https://www.thelocal.se/20170612/especi ... den-report
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According to DN, the new especially vulnerable areas are: Norrby and Hässleholmen/Hulta in Borås, Tynnered/Grevegården/Opaltorget in Gothenburg, Karlslund in Landskrona, Nydala/Hermodsdal/Lindängen in Malmö, Fittja and Alby in Stockholm and Gottsunda in Uppsala.
Also from that article:
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The term "no-go zone" caught on in some international media back in 2015 after it was used by a Swedish newspaper columnist to label these areas, but it has been strongly rejected by police themselves.
The police definition of such districts describe them as socio-economically vulnerable areas where crime and poverty rates are generally high, where police regularly have to adapt their methods and equipment to the volatile situation, where there may be violent religious extremism and where residents often do not report crimes to the police, either out of fear of retaliation or because they think it will not lead to anything.
The police definition of such districts describe them as socio-economically vulnerable areas where crime and poverty rates are generally high, where police regularly have to adapt their methods and equipment to the volatile situation, where there may be violent religious extremism and where residents often do not report crimes to the police, either out of fear of retaliation or because they think it will not lead to anything.
Your story does not refer to them as 'no go zones', but the exact opposite. It also goes on:
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"The criminal network is still there, but they are becoming fewer and fewer and we are very happy that we're not seeing any new recruitment. There are no younger members connected to this network, so they are getting older and older and fewer and fewer," said the police's municipal liaison officer Jonatan Örstrand, adding that it “all depends on the course of the future”.
So, gangs that once controlled these areas are being dismantled.
Why could these car fires not be gang related, like the second article I quoted?
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
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Systematically setting cars on fire has become a associated with gang violence in suburbs in Sweden's major cities.
Last year, 1,457 cars were 'deliberately' set on fire across Sweden, compared to 1,641 in 2016, according to the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency's figures.
Last year in February, two days after US President Donald Trump's baffling comments linking crime to immigration in Sweden, riots broke out in the immigrant-heavy northern Stockholm suburb of Rinkeby.
Dozens of youths clashed with police after they arrested a suspected drug dealer in Rinkeby. The rioters threw stones at police, burned cars and looted shops.
Last year, 1,457 cars were 'deliberately' set on fire across Sweden, compared to 1,641 in 2016, according to the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency's figures.
Last year in February, two days after US President Donald Trump's baffling comments linking crime to immigration in Sweden, riots broke out in the immigrant-heavy northern Stockholm suburb of Rinkeby.
Dozens of youths clashed with police after they arrested a suspected drug dealer in Rinkeby. The rioters threw stones at police, burned cars and looted shops.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-say.html
Even the Daily Mail, a well known source of sensationalism, isn't calling these 'Muslim No-go areas'.
N_Fiddledog @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:42 am
Actually the Daily Mail is pretty much on board with progifying the news. The writers are fond of the term "Far Right" to refer to pretty much anything that prefers integration and assimilation over multiculturalism. Antifa are called "counter-protesters." They like to call the Muslim gang groomers of British children, "Asians." That sort of thing. They hate Trump. Check it out. See the slant. It's the same every day.
Police, ambulance and firefighters will on occasion let the truth about the no-go zones slip out.
Then the next thing you know they're being paraded in front of friendlier, more "progressive cameras" to explain how the sinned and how they were 'taken out of context.'
But no-go zones do exist. It's a secret Swedish authorities can't keep no matter how hard they try and they are largely populated by Muslims.
BartSimpson @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:43 am
I'm done arguing the obvious.
The sun is warm, water is wet, rocks are hard, and Muslims are terrorizing Sweden.
It's just the way it is.
N_Fiddledog @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:21 pm
Here's a third example of what happens to journalists in the Swedish no-go zones:
Moment documentary maker 'is punched, kicked and choked by five migrants' after entering 'no-go' zone in Swedish city
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Horowitz can be heard asking 'How come it's a problem to film here?' before an unidentified man answers: 'I don't want to be filmed.'
When Horowitz asks why, the men start talking in Arabic before the film-maker is apparently grabbed - despite demonstrating he is not filming anything.
A man then says 'let me see' before Horowitz shouts 'help, help.' The audio soon goes silent when his microphone goes out of range.
Mr Horowitz, from Los Angeles, feared he was going to be 'finished off' before someone entered the property, scaring off his attackers.
'Nothing prompted the assault other then our presence,' he said.
'My crew ran off when they approached, but since I was miked we have the first few seconds of the attack.
When Horowitz asks why, the men start talking in Arabic before the film-maker is apparently grabbed - despite demonstrating he is not filming anything.
A man then says 'let me see' before Horowitz shouts 'help, help.' The audio soon goes silent when his microphone goes out of range.
Mr Horowitz, from Los Angeles, feared he was going to be 'finished off' before someone entered the property, scaring off his attackers.
'Nothing prompted the assault other then our presence,' he said.
'My crew ran off when they approached, but since I was miked we have the first few seconds of the attack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -city.html
So these no-go zones exist. Who's in them you ask?
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Population increases during 2004-2012 have mainly been attributed to immigration from Muslim countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia. This translates as an influx of Muslim immigrants as opposed to any other ethnicity.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countr ... opulation/
CharlesAnthony @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:28 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
So these no-go zones exist. Who's in them you ask?
No. You are asking the wrong question. The Answer: Chowing down on donuts at the local coffee shop.
Tricks @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:27 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I'm done arguing the obvious.
The sun is warm, water is wet, rocks are hard, and Muslims are terrorizing Sweden.
It's just the way it is.
The sun is warm, water is wet, rocks are hard, and Muslims are terrorizing Sweden.
It's just the way it is.
That's impressive.
BartSimpson @ Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:51 pm
Tricks Tricks:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I'm done arguing the obvious.
The sun is warm, water is wet, rocks are hard, and Muslims are terrorizing Sweden.
It's just the way it is.
The sun is warm, water is wet, rocks are hard, and Muslims are terrorizing Sweden.
It's just the way it is.
That's impressive.
I'm legendary for my grasp of the obvious.
DrCaleb @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:43 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I'm legendary for my grasp of the obvious.
You mistake my intentions here. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I know you too well to know that can't be done. What I am trying to do is re-awaken your sense of scepticism.
To you, this thread title is 'obvious'. To everyone else, it's bullshit. That's because you've been convinced that the underlying facts are true and therefore it fits in with what you already believe. The rest of us however have been paying attention, and don't believe the underlying narrative and therefore the thread title.
However, a simple check of facts shows this title to be anything but obvious. If it's so obvious, why can't you convince me of it? You relied on 'Ex Muslim Ireland' as a source that these vandals were Muslim. Everything about that account says 'fraud' to me. Have we not been discussing the ongoing Russian offensive to destroy civility in the United States? I'm pretty sure that twitter, account and millions like it, are how they accomplish it. By pitting you against your countrymen using wedge issues like Immigrants.
It's actually been shown, where Russians create two groups - one pro-Immigrant and one anti-immigrant, then organize rallies for both at the same time in the same place. Simply to create division in that place!
Are there bad Muslims in Sweden? I bet there are. But the police in Sweden aren't know for shooting people in their backyards for carrying a cell phone, so I tend to trust them when they say that it's "gangs" responsible for car burnings more than "Muslims". Especially when there is no evidence!
And especially when political tides are turning and keeping a low profile means a greater likelihood of not being deported.
CharlesAnthony @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:40 am
It will be interesting to see what the automobile insurance companies have to say.
MeganC @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:52 am
Who else would do this if it isn't Muslims?
CharlesAnthony @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:12 am
MeganC MeganC:
Who else would do this if it isn't Muslims?
People with long beards and robes.
DrCaleb @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:25 am
MeganC MeganC:
Who else would do this if it isn't Muslims?
Swedes?
MeganC @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:51 am
LOL, my grandma was from Sweden and Swedes don't do anything like this.
BartSimpson @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:57 am
Well, I'm going to have to take back all those things I said about you. ![[B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif "Drink up")
DrCaleb @ Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:05 am
MeganC MeganC:
LOL, my grandma was from Sweden and Swedes don't do anything like this.
Back in my day, we had a rifle range out back of the school, and a shooting class. Imagine bringing a rifle to school now?
Times change.